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Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
MSNBC.com ^ | 04-04-03 | By Preston Mendenhall

Posted on 04/06/2003 9:53:02 AM PDT by kimmie7

SARGAT, Iraq, April 4 — Preliminary tests conducted by MSNBC.com indicate that the deadly toxins ricin and botulinum were present on two items found at a camp in a remote mountain region of northern Iraq allegedly used as a terrorist training center by Islamic militants with ties to the al-Qaida terrorist network. The field tests used by MSNBC.com are only a first step in the evidentiary process and are typically followed by more precise laboratory testing that MSNBC.com has not conducted. U.S. intelligence agents were conducting their own tests in the same area and had not yet released their results, according to officials in northern Iraq.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200304; 20030404; alqaeda; alqaedaandiraq; alqaedainiraq; botulinum; botulinumtoxin; botulism; bush; chemical; flypaper; illegalweapons; iran; iraq; iraqifreedom; islam; jveritas; mohammedanism; prequel; prewardocs; ricin; saddam; terrorism; toxin; translations; wardocs; wmd; wot; zarqawi
Keep scrolling for the whole story. It is VERY interesting.
1 posted on 04/06/2003 9:53:02 AM PDT by kimmie7
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To: kimmie7
Smoking gun time?
2 posted on 04/06/2003 9:54:53 AM PDT by speedy
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To: speedy; All
I can't imagine how Blix and the U.N. could have missed this?
3 posted on 04/06/2003 9:55:57 AM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: kimmie7
Nothing to see here, move along Saddam has never seen these guys before in his life (sarcasm off)
4 posted on 04/06/2003 9:56:20 AM PDT by ewing
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To: kimmie7
today is the sixth. this was pretty heavily dealt with here when it really was breaking news.

dep

5 posted on 04/06/2003 9:56:43 AM PDT by dep (baghdad before hdad bags us!)
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To: dep
Sorry if it was, I'm not through with my 2nd cup of life support (coffee) yet. ;)
6 posted on 04/06/2003 9:58:38 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Time to take the gloves OFF!!!)
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To: kimmie7
Don't feel bad. I thought it was brand new today too. Especially since WorldNet Daily had it listed as "Breaking" on their site a couple hours ago. I was news to me today as well.
7 posted on 04/06/2003 10:00:40 AM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: txradioguy
Don't be too hard on Hanz.
He was too busy doing this.

8 posted on 04/06/2003 10:02:56 AM PDT by McGruff (All Your Airports Are Belong To Us.)
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To: All
When we get to a point where the regime is "gone" and we can talk with some people and search the vast bunkers under the palaces and elsewhere, we'll find the VAST tonnage of chemicl and bio weapons. Untill then, we'll continue to prosecute the war.

And if we don't find anything, then we'll have to find those three Iraqi ships still quietly circling around in the ocean, or go invade Syria where all those 8-wheelers from Iraq went just before the war started.
9 posted on 04/06/2003 10:04:59 AM PDT by bart99
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To: bart99
er...... 18 wheelers *s*
10 posted on 04/06/2003 10:05:41 AM PDT by bart99
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To: txradioguy
Thanks. It was still flagged as "Breaking" when I posted it, or I wouldn't have. Anyway, I've been following FR pretty closely and I hadn't seen it.
11 posted on 04/06/2003 10:06:52 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Time to take the gloves OFF!!!)
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To: McGruff
STOP THE PRESSES!

Blix is "curious".

12 posted on 04/06/2003 10:08:56 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: txradioguy
I can't imagine how Blix and the U.N. could have missed this?

Your kidding, of course. Blix coundn't find his own ass with two hands, a map and a gps.

13 posted on 04/06/2003 10:18:43 AM PDT by glockmeister40
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To: glockmeister40
Yes I was. I apologize for forgetting to hit the sarcasm button. LOL!
14 posted on 04/06/2003 10:35:46 AM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: txradioguy
islam is a religion of sarcasm/(peace off)
15 posted on 04/06/2003 10:58:13 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: squarebarb
It is.
16 posted on 04/06/2003 11:46:55 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: kimmie7
Could we get a print-out of these results on very stiff paper . . . roll it up into a none-to-tidy roll

and then insert same

into certain orifi on certain

traitors given to pontificating in the public arena--especially those claiming to be congresspersons for the Republic!???

[ /joke ]

sort of.
17 posted on 04/06/2003 12:10:03 PM PDT by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: All

I guess we continue on this thread.


18 posted on 06/24/2008 9:33:41 AM PDT by library user
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To: kimmie7
As many of us are newly made aware of this article as LGF has posted it 6/24/2008, note that the original original thread is here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/884912/posts
19 posted on 06/24/2008 9:34:33 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: NonValueAdded

The original MSNBC URL is dead:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3051076/

From 2003. Nothing.


20 posted on 06/24/2008 9:35:35 AM PDT by library user
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To: NonValueAdded; library user; NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; ...
Well someone in the Blogosphere found it again:

Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq

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Evidence of ricin, botulinum at Islamic militants’ camp

By EXCLUSIVE By Preston Mendenhall
MSNBC

SARGAT, Iraq, April 4 - Preliminary tests conducted by MSNBC.com indicate that the deadly toxins ricin and botulinum were present on two items found at a camp in a remote mountain region of northern Iraq allegedly used as a terrorist training center by Islamic militants with ties to the al-Qaida terrorist network. The field tests used by MSNBC.com are only a first step in the evidentiary process and are typically followed by more precise laboratory testing that MSNBC.com has not conducted. U.S. intelligence agents were conducting their own tests in the same area and had not yet released their results, according to officials in northern Iraq.

MSNBC.COM CONDUCTED the tests over a two-day period at Sargat, an alleged terrorist training camp a mile from the Iraq-Iran border. MSNBC.com purchased the test kits commercially. The field tests, developed by Osborn Scientific Group in Lakeside, Ariz., are regarded by some experts as very effective and have been used by U.N. weapons inspectors and federal government agents around the Sept. 11, 2001, attack site in New York City.

The Sargat camp, set back in an isolated valley and surrounded by snow-capped peaks, was home to the radical Islamic militant group Ansar al-Islam, which counts among its some 700 followers scores of al-Qaida fighters.

In a Feb. 5 speech to the U.N. Security Council, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell showed a satellite photo of the Sargat camp and described Ansar al-Islam as “teaching its operatives how to produce ricin and other poisons.” U.S. officials have repeated the allegations in recent weeks.

In an operation timed to coincide with the war on Iraq, U.S. special operations forces have targeted Ansar al-Islam’s militants in northern Iraq. Hundreds of Islamists, including al-Qaida fighters who took refuge in northern Iraq after the fall of the Taliban in Afghanistan, have been killed.

Although U.S. officials for months have leveled charges that the Ansar al-Islam and al-Qaida militants were producing poisons in northern Iraq, it wasn’t until this week that specialist U.S. teams were able to gain access to the Sargat camp to test for traces of biological and chemical weapons.

Experts believe the Islamic group was producing the substances in the camp. Both toxins can be created from everyday products and simple procedures.

TERRORISTS TEMPTED BY TOXINS

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And from today's Flopping Aces:

MSNBC Confirms Pre-War Al Queda Camp in Iraq Tests Positive For Bio/Chem weapons

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24 Jun 2008

Posted by: Scott @ 6:28 am in Bush Derangement Syndrome, Fanatical Islam, Iraq/Al-Qaeda Connection, Middle East, Moonbats, Politics, Pre-Invasion, Saddam Documents, The Iraqi War, The Shadow Party, WMD, War On Terror

Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
Evidence of ricin, botulinum at Islamic militants’ camp
By EXCLUSIVE By Preston Mendenhall
MSNBC

Now, let’s face it…Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews aren’t gonna change their minds and suddenly face the reality that Saddam’s regime was willing to work with AQ groups, did work with AQ groups and leaders, and the threat of the so-called “Nexus of Evil” connection even existed.

Captured members of Al Queda groups from this same camp claim that they were assisted, trained, supplied, and funded by Saddam’s IIS as well as taking orders from Saddam’s IIS.

Captured documents confirm their claims.

Captured regime members confirm their claims.

Now even highly anti-war/pro-Democrat MSNBC confirms the claim itself.

Al Queda leaders confirm the claims (Zawahiri and Zarqawi specifically).

Why believe “Bush Lied”?  Because it’s easier to believe that the solution to today’s problems can be solved by changing a circle to a dot on a ballot than it is to face the real and scary threat as well as own up to the failures of the past.


21 posted on 06/24/2008 9:51:55 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BTTT!!!!


22 posted on 06/24/2008 9:53:52 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: speedy; kimmie7; txradioguy; ewing; dep; McGruff; bart99; Rocko; glockmeister40; squarebarb; ...
Now in 2008:

Al Qaeda Document: Zarqawi Came to Iraq Before The War To Prepare The Fight Against U.S

23 posted on 06/24/2008 9:58:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The media and the liberals have certainly been a problem, but so has Pres. Bush.

No one’s ever going to accuse him of standing up for his claims of Al Qaeda and WMDs in Iraq.


24 posted on 06/24/2008 10:10:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: NonValueAdded

bttt - the media lied ... people died.


25 posted on 06/24/2008 10:27:29 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

oh right...from the people that rigged the GM crash tests with rocket engines “for effect” There is no evidentiary process in the news room...give me a break

>>>>The field tests used by MSNBC.com are only a first step in the evidentiary process and are typically followed by more precise laboratory testing that MSNBC.com has not conducted


26 posted on 06/24/2008 10:29:58 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: kimmie7

So when do the liberals who screamed that the war was wrong scream that they were wrong?

Would they have been happier if we were attacked with these WMD and then they could say that Bush didn’t do anything to protect us?


27 posted on 06/24/2008 11:55:43 AM PDT by Munz
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To: kimmie7



Ricin? No, no, you must be mistaken; it's RICE you found! We have no biological weapons in Iraq, never!
28 posted on 06/24/2008 3:17:13 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“deadly toxins ricin and botulinum were present on two items found at a camp in a remote mountain region of northern Iraq allegedly used as a terrorist training center by Islamic militants with ties to the al-Qaida terrorist network.”

Needs to be repeated.
The swamp had to be drained...
Bush was right.


29 posted on 06/24/2008 3:23:38 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: kimmie7
Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History.
30 posted on 06/24/2008 3:24:24 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; ...

Per Ernest

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/886458/posts?page=21#21

Flopping Aces dug up the MSNBC report of bio warfare from early on in the war that was recently confirmed by:
Al Qaeda Document: Zarqawi Came to Iraq Before The War To Prepare The Fight Against U.S

(Personal Note: FWIW, no one which/how many sites have been and are currently being guarded in Iraq by US Military.)


31 posted on 06/24/2008 3:52:16 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: All

Working link to the original article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3070394/


32 posted on 06/24/2008 3:54:23 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: freema

I wouldn’t be surprised to see it disappear again from the MSNBC accessible website....I saved a copy on my disk.


33 posted on 06/24/2008 4:54:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: NonValueAdded

I’m totally freaking out....I was thinking, “why are they pinging me to this thread?” Didn’t even remember posting it.


34 posted on 06/24/2008 5:27:56 PM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m glad you did...


35 posted on 06/24/2008 5:29:25 PM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I just did as well. Although I feel caught in a bit of a time warp.

What exactly resurrected this old article? I’ve not checked LGF today.

Nor have I had much coffee, so take it easy. LOL


36 posted on 06/24/2008 5:31:16 PM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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To: kimmie7

Just ahead of your time, my FRiend! The Mods nuked today’s thread so all that was left was your oldie but goodie to comment on this run through the wayback machine.


37 posted on 06/24/2008 5:32:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Wow...I was actually ahead for once.

Wait.

I gotta go tell my husband.


38 posted on 06/24/2008 5:37:29 PM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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To: NonValueAdded

I don’t see anything about this on LGF either.

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

< / zoolander >


39 posted on 06/24/2008 5:38:40 PM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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To: speedy

Well, It’s from MSNBC.

The biggest anti-Bush clan out there.

They will have to admit something. Or claim we planted it to save a presidential legacy.


40 posted on 06/24/2008 5:40:58 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: G8 Diplomat

I haven’t seen Baghdad Bob in ages! Not since that crazy night in Tikrit.

j/k

seriously.


41 posted on 06/24/2008 5:42:41 PM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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