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By the right, Fox in step with brass
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | April 8, 2003 | Tom Allard, Herald Correspondent in Kuwait City

Posted on 04/08/2003 1:38:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Not for the first time, the most spectacular images of the United States armoured advance to Baghdad have come from Rupert Murdoch's Fox Network.

After scooping its cable news rivals CNN and MSNBC with footage of troops entering Baghdad and then later storming Saddam International Airport, a Fox reporter, Greg Kelly, and his cameraman had the dress circle view yesterday as a column of US 3rd Infantry division tanks took a tour of Baghdad landmarks.

Starting at Saddam Hussein's main presidential palace, viewers were afforded footage of gold-plated wash basins and waterfalls, and a US soldier hoisting a Georgia University pennant.

Then onto Baghdad's parade grounds and their giant crossed sabres commemorating the Iraq-Iran war. US soldiers mugged for the camera and held up the stars and stripes while Kelly did live crosses with Fox anchors in Washington.

Then came the coup de grace: the destruction of the iconic statue of Saddam astride a steed to cheers from the US soldiers.

Meanwhile, Fox's rivals were shut out of town. CNN had to make do with distant shots of smoke-filled Baghdad and retold wire service stories from reporters with troops.

A US military spokesman, Max Blumenfeld, denied that Fox - with its racy but unashamedly patriotic and unquestioning coverage of the war - was being openly favoured. However, he did say enigmatically that public affairs officers such as him were paid to "know your enemy".

"Fox may well have more access. They have good contacts and they asked the right questions in the pre-planning."

Fox is now the most watched cable news network, introducing a right-wing tabloid ethos to the staid 24-hour news industry.


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Sounds like an editorial to me.
1 posted on 04/08/2003 1:38:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Starting at Saddam Hussein's main presidential palace, viewers were afforded footage of gold-plated wash basins and waterfalls, and a US soldier hoisting a Georgia University pennant.

This Aussie reporter doesn't understand that it's UGa, not GU. ;-)

2 posted on 04/08/2003 1:45:41 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yes, they knew last December when the reporters were embedded in the various units that the one Greg Kelly was in would be the unit that took Saddam's palace.
3 posted on 04/08/2003 1:46:27 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
What a plan.
4 posted on 04/08/2003 1:56:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Well, it is down under. Even the Moon looks different from there.
5 posted on 04/08/2003 1:57:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A US military spokesman, Max Blumenfeld, denied that Fox - with its racy but unashamedly patriotic and unquestioning coverage of the war - was being openly favoured. However, he did say enigmatically that public affairs officers such as him were paid to "know your enemy".

Ain't that the truth...

6 posted on 04/08/2003 2:03:12 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (* * Common Sense is an Oxymoron * *)
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To: All
Meanwhile, Fox's rivals were shut out of town. CNN had to make do with distant shots of smoke-filled Baghdad and retold wire service stories from reporters with troops.

CNN has a news bureau in Havana. Not much but the commie, Castro line is reported. They've decided, you can turn the channel to Fox.

7 posted on 04/08/2003 2:04:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Keith in Iowa
Oh, but... but they aren't biased. Really they're not.

Boo-hoo, Fox is ruining all our beautiful propaganda. Boo-hoo.

8 posted on 04/08/2003 2:06:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Fox may well have more access. They have good contacts and they asked the right questions in the pre-planning."

Whatever this comment means, I find the military commentators on Fox to be the most believable, knowledgable and interesting.

Fox viewership lead indicates the customer likes their version of the undertakings. Maybe they please people, with more military analysis, and less bogging down in quagmires.

For video, each network has had good episodes, and most of the time equality.

9 posted on 04/08/2003 2:11:18 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Agree. Truth trumps spin....everytime.
10 posted on 04/08/2003 2:22:17 AM PDT by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Another hitpiece masquarading as "reporting"... and yet they say they aren't biased LOL Denial or out-and-out fraud? The liberals report, we decide ;-)
11 posted on 04/08/2003 2:27:38 AM PDT by Tamzee
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To: Mustang; truth_seeker; Tamsey
Bumps!
12 posted on 04/08/2003 2:47:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"tabloid ethos"

HAHAHAHAHHHAAAA
13 posted on 04/08/2003 2:49:30 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Fox is now the most watched cable news network, introducing a right-wing tabloid ethos to the staid 24-hour news industry.

This and Rush Limbaugh style talk radio is what has the liberals whining about being the media being biased. Liberal control over our universities, over major newspapers and editorial pages doesn't count. Neither does liberal control over ABCNBCCBSCNNPBS which is where far more Americans get their news than Fox.

14 posted on 04/08/2003 2:54:30 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Fact: Greg Kelly served in the Marines.
Fact: Greg Kelly is now in the Marine Reserves.
Fact: Greg Kelly works for Fox News.
Fact: The Pentagon assigned reporters to specific units.
Fact: The Pentagon knew the battle plan.

Opinion: It's more likely that Greg Kelly was assigned to the 3rd ID because he served in the Marines and NOT because he works for Fox News Channel.

Opinion: This reporter either left out Greg Kellys military record on purpose to make a political statement, or did pathetic research before writing this article, or both.
15 posted on 04/08/2003 2:54:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (Saddam is a dead man)
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To: fightinJAG
They're green with envy.
16 posted on 04/08/2003 2:55:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dennisw
They want to own it all. Schools of education, journalism and government train LIBERALS of yesterday, today and tomorrow. We need to crack that mold.
17 posted on 04/08/2003 2:57:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Both.
18 posted on 04/08/2003 2:58:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let's review the competition's checkered history with the current administration:

"He was selected not elected"...Everyone said this but Fox. Yes, I would say that puts everyone else off to a bad start with W's first four years. If we do recover Sadamn's body, you can count on FOX to cover it live.

V


19 posted on 04/08/2003 3:01:17 AM PDT by Beck_isright (FLASH: CNN hires Baghdad Bob as new Operation Iraqi Freedom Military Analyst)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
CNN is bogged down.
20 posted on 04/08/2003 3:05:14 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: dennisw
liberal control over ABCNBCCBSCNNPBS

You forgot NPR and Reuters.


BUMP

22 posted on 04/08/2003 3:14:06 AM PDT by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: Beck_isright; Brain Damage; DigiLinus
Bumps!
23 posted on 04/08/2003 3:14:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hugin
Kelly is a Marine veteran. As is Ollie North. Rick Leventhal and Geraldo Rivera are guys the grunts immediately calculated as a real men they wouldn't have to babysit when the sheyatt hit the fan. In Doha, Fox has a reporter whose neck is bigger than Mike Alstott's. Warzones are a man's world, and the trusted guys get the access.

Over in Kuwait City, Doha and embedded in country, CNN has Wolf Blitzer, Christine Ahyamreallypoor and Daran "Hows my hair" Kagan, NBC has Brian Williams, Bob "Oh Jesus, Oh Jesus that was a Hellfire right in the air ... and let's get these Iraqi kids some water" Arnot and lost their one real human being in superstar Bloom. ABC has Ted Koppel. CBS sent the 60 minutes crew driving Cadillacs with their left blinker always on.

Why would military personnel cut anyone but FOX a break?

24 posted on 04/08/2003 3:35:08 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Great post! I liked the reference to the "you're in good hands with" Buc fullback.

The only thing I would amplify is that Bob Arnot is both a medical doctor and speaks Arabic (or whatever they speak in Iraq). His reports have been pretty good if you can get past his breathless speech pattern.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Pentagon put some thought into the embed assignments. It seems the same "journalists" who bit%hed about "the military plan" are now bit%hing about the embed plan. I see a pattern.
25 posted on 04/08/2003 3:57:56 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (Saddam is a dead man)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Fox is now the most watched cable news network, introducing a right-wing tabloid ethos to the staid 24-hour news industry.

                              (Truth)
                              =VRWC=
<--commie left-------left------center------right-->

 ABC       NBC BBC             FOX
 CBS
 NPR 
 Al Jazeera
 Al Jazeera -
  west (CNN)
 New York Times
 Los Angeles Times
Yep, FOX is right-wing! : )
26 posted on 04/08/2003 4:16:38 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Beauty. I need to figure out how to post that on a site I'm on with limited HTML (can't use a fixed pitch font).
27 posted on 04/08/2003 4:28:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Beck_isright
Colonel North and Kelly report the events unfolding in the world they cover faithfully, good or bad. North reported the disturbing and sad events of Fratercide, Friendly Fire and Non-combat accidental deaths and setbacks immediately, factually and without prejudice. Kelly does the same. As does Leventhal and their anchors and military consultants don't have any political agenda but to share their honest perceptions and analysis. Green Beret Major Bob doesn't presume a legitimate comment on infantry movements and supply line dynamics, Colonel Hunt doesn't pretend that he is an expert on Urban guerilla tactics or air ordinance timetables -the Army Major General shares insight on global theater strategies, the Marine Colonel talks river crossings and close air support, the Navy Captain knows his world-class stuff, the SEALS know about Rescue Ops like the POW rescue, thet have a former CIA operations guy to talk Psy Ops and .... they're not working an agenda.

The campaign is a resounding success, arguably the most overwhelmingly powerful, lightning quick and coordinated, casualty free yet complex military operation in human history. FOX is reporting the news.

As Dizzy Dean said ... "It ain't braggin' if it's true."

28 posted on 04/08/2003 4:35:59 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin; nicmarlo
Great analysis bump.
29 posted on 04/08/2003 4:44:55 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: FreedomPoster
You have FReepmail. : )
30 posted on 04/08/2003 4:48:19 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: PGalt
Great analysis = Truth, lol! : ) ty.
31 posted on 04/08/2003 4:51:03 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
BTTT!
32 posted on 04/08/2003 4:53:59 AM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: Oldeconomybuyer


And Greg Kelly is the son of Ray Kelley, Rudy's chief of the NYPD, so he has a great pedigree and upbringing for the great job he's done. Fox correspondents definitely ruled the airwaves this go-round.
33 posted on 04/08/2003 4:58:25 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: tm22721
Personally, when I want the "real" news I tune into CNN. There I know I can get the best, in depth, info on what Mike Farrell, Ed Asner, Jessica Lange, Michael Moore, etc think about "Cowboy Big Stupid Bush."

Fox might be great concerning troop movements.

CNN has them beat on the bowel movements of the stars.

34 posted on 04/08/2003 5:00:55 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Colonel Oliver North has distinguished himself in spectacular fashion. He's teaching American citizens how a Marine Expeditionary Unit operates, the importance of each and every hero to the success of the mission. He's not a Geraldo who just hustles up whoever is in the area for a "Look at me so loved by all these tough guys. Give me a "Hoo ha"' boys" photo op. North is with a Cobra machine gunner, a Communications specialist, the air traffic officer, the bridge and roadway engineering crew, the Korman staff, the Demolitoin and ordinance ninjas ... all of whom ply their trade expertly. Ollie is the most proud Papa on Earth, he's showing us the excellence of America's young Marines, and reminding us of the sadness and valor of War's death and destruction too.

The scumbags of the left will never understand that level of humble respect for the bittersweet sacrifices, costs and righteous outcomes of victory in war.

35 posted on 04/08/2003 5:13:18 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Colonel Oliver North has distinguished himself in spectacular fashion.

I'll never forget the Democratic vultures in the Senate salivating as they awaited Ollie North's testimony on Iran-Contra. Through him, they thought they were finally going to "get" Ronald Reagan.

And there was a Republican or two also drooling with anticipation.

Oliver North made fools of them in such a spectacular way that there was no doubt who had carried the battle. The Senators who had looked forward with such anticipation to destroying Ollie went into full and complete retreat in full television view.

Col. North is outstanding in my book in almost every way.

36 posted on 04/08/2003 5:44:08 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"CNN has a news bureau in Havana. Not much but the commie, Castro line is reported. They've decided, you can turn the channel to Fox."


37 posted on 04/08/2003 6:04:39 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Saddam, like the Marxist DemocRATS who support him, is a clear and present danger.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well, it is down under. Even the Moon looks different from there.

And the toilets swirl in the wrong direction when you flush them, too.

38 posted on 04/08/2003 6:20:41 AM PDT by bankwalker (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sounds like a whine to me...
39 posted on 04/08/2003 6:24:00 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Bluntpoint
Don't you DARE question the patriotism and military service of these people - artists whose films, television shows and Vanity Fair profiles give us such joy, and whose glamourous lives somehow make our lives worth living too.

Ed Asner played a Korean War veteran as Lou Grant. Martin Sheen played Private Eddy Slovak, Mike Farrell and Alan Alda were Army Captains if Army Captains came without testicles, Eddie Vedder is still operating many years after his obsolescence, Susan Sarandon docked with the Sixth Naval Fleet, Oprah Winfrey wages pitched battle of fierce resistance against that third helping of Pasta and Pork Gristle smothered in Fudge Sauce. Jessica Lange's career is designated MIA. Bill Maher's dream of Delta Force service died with his futile try at two consecutive pushups. John Mellencamp fought authority and authority always won. Jeanene Garafolo wears dog tags issued by the Humane Society. Michael Moore no longer can get his Privates to Stand at Attention. Sheryl Crow watched General Hospital once.

Bill Cohen could, and did, build a military around that level of talent and experience.

40 posted on 04/08/2003 6:37:27 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Ole Okie
It's amazing. The soldiers still say "Yes sir," and "Thank You Sir" and "That's Correct Lieutenant Colonel" or whatever his rank was. That level of legacy is awesome.
41 posted on 04/08/2003 6:44:30 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Fact: Greg Kelly served in the Marines.

Fact: Greg Kelly is now in the Marine Reserves.

Fact: Greg Kelly works for Fox News.

Fact: The Pentagon assigned reporters to specific units.

Fact: The Pentagon knew the battle plan.

Opinion: It's more likely that Greg Kelly was assigned to the 3rd ID because he served in the Marines and NOT because he works for Fox News Channel.

Opinion: This reporter either left out Greg Kellys military record on purpose to make a political statement, or did pathetic research before writing this article, or both.

Furthermore, I would not be surprised that the journalists that went through the Pentagon reporter certification course (or whatnot) were rated on their military capabilities and assigned to units accordingly.

Ken Dilanian, Philadelphia Inquirer and Steve Vogel, Washington Post are "embedded" with the 173rd Airborne . I do not know if they made the jump to seize that northern Iraqi airport outside Kurdish controlled territory or came in later by cargo aircraft.

With the few exceptions, most journalists appear to be assigned to artilery or combat support roles.

42 posted on 04/08/2003 6:48:09 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: nicmarlo
This really ought to be made into a bumper sticker. It would provide wonderful education on our nations highways and byways.
43 posted on 04/08/2003 6:54:40 AM PDT by PLOM...NOT!
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My thought is that Fox was given the raid into Bagdad as described here.

Last night, the lead was passed to MSNBC who broke the Saddam is dead story. MSNBC was in the lead with the story for some part of an hour.

CNN was left in the cold .

By chance? By design?

44 posted on 04/08/2003 7:01:02 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: All
Furthermore, I would not be surprised that the journalists that went through the Pentagon reporter certification course (or whatnot) were rated on their military capabilities and assigned to units accordingly.

With the few exceptions, most journalists appear to be assigned to artilery or combat support roles.

Everyone, don't take my two statements the wrong way. If the DOD is faced with a journalist with a low military capability (i.e. high dork factor), the last place you want that person is near a front line combat or air mobile unit. The dork more often kills other people than themselves.

"Approved" people can be assigned to any military unit that the DOD thinks is prudent. The approved person has a brain between their ears and it has been proven in action.

Low-level dorks are assigned to units that will have some mobility but not to the degree that they have to worry all the time about whether or not the dork will get lost or fall off an APC or worse - shot.

Mid-grade dorks are assigned to artilery because it makes for good TV because things go BOOM on a frequent basis. This way the TV journalist dork won't feel as bad that they're not in a tank column.

Really big dorks are at the Pentagon briefing pestering Rummy because they would get airsick on the flight to Doha.

45 posted on 04/08/2003 7:05:20 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer
Going forward, I think the embedded reporters need to be removed from their units at whatever point in the advance where it is anticipated that the deal is going to get hellishly real. There is no reporting, no single participant view, that provides context or proportion when bullets and bombs are flying and everybody is tunnel visioned and conjuring the reflexive power of their training, command and deadly skills. Reporters can't accurately process a situation like an ambush assault or a terrorist attack - there's no accurate and authentic report, it's just myopia and fear and mortal danger. David Bloom and Michael Kelly left two wives and 6 children to grow up and without their love and support. For what?


46 posted on 04/08/2003 7:17:06 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: PLOM...NOT!
Maybe somebody will...would be good to have this in the face of every American.
47 posted on 04/08/2003 7:21:46 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That clearly is an editorial not a news report.
48 posted on 04/08/2003 7:24:18 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ArneFufkin
"David Bloom and Michael Kelly left two wives and 6 children to grow up and without their love and support. For what?"

David Bloom died of natural causes and Kelly was killed in a traffic accident near some fighting. Pick better examples to prove what may be an interesting point of yours.

Personally, I like the embeds. It's very close to what we had in WWII, with satellites.

Michael

49 posted on 04/08/2003 7:28:04 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
**After scooping its cable news rivals CNN and MSNBC with footage of troops entering Baghdad and then later storming Saddam International Airport, a Fox reporter, Greg Kelly, and his cameraman had the dress circle view yesterday as a column of US 3rd Infantry division tanks took a tour of Baghdad landmarks.

Starting at Saddam Hussein's main presidential palace, viewers were afforded footage of gold-plated wash basins and waterfalls, and a US soldier hoisting a Georgia University pennant.

Then onto Baghdad's parade grounds and their giant crossed sabres commemorating the Iraq-Iran war. US soldiers mugged for the camera and held up the stars and stripes while Kelly did live crosses with Fox anchors in Washington.

Then came the coup de grace: the destruction of the iconic statue of Saddam astride a steed to cheers from the US soldiers.**

This was great coverage.

BTW, the writer did not seem to mention MSNBC------Hmmmm.
50 posted on 04/08/2003 7:30:53 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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