Almost an Entire Armored Brigade in City's Center, Pentagon Says

NYTimes ^ | 4/8/03 | JOHN M. BRODER

[3k9pm]

Vital Role

Definition: Hey, Kofi, grab me another beer out of that cooler.

[dogbyte12]

What is up Brent Scowcroft's butt? From what I have been told... this actually means Bush41 is the one with the criticism. Basically, Scowcroft says things that Bush Senior wants to say, but can't because of the political situation.

I hate to break it to dad and Brent, but you left Jr a big old mess to clean up, and ya need to stop trying to direct the clean up crew.

[RJCogburn]

Basically, Scowcroft says things that Bush Senior wants to say, but can't because of the political situation.

I'm not so certain of that.

[MonroeDNA]

Remember, the Ba'ath party is really called the

SOCIALIST BA'ATH PARTY.

Just like the Nationalist Socialst party, ooops, I mean the NAZI party.

Socialism only survives through lies, and disinformation.

[Maynerd]

"Brent Scowcroft, who was national security adviser for President Bush's father, entered the debate on the planning for postwar Iraq today. He warned in a speech in Oslo that the United States and Britain could provoke a backlash in the Arab world, including a surge in anti-American terrorism, if they insist on a dominant role in running Iraq"

I wish these retired generals would fade away. This guy thinks he's still directing and implementing the failed policies of Bush 41.

[martin_fierro]

Oh, the devil you say.

There are no Americans in downtown Baghdad.

I get all my news from Baghdad Bob.

<|:)~

[libertylover]

"There is now almost an entire armored brigade from the U.S. Third Infantry Division in the middle of Baghdad," Maj. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal said at the Pentagon today.

Can one of you Army-types please explain some of the Army's organizational terms. I understand sqad, platoon, and company, at least for an infantry outfit, and I think of a Division as a base-sized(fort) unit (~10,000 troops, correct?), but I haven't got a clue about a brigade or a regiment. Please help this former Air Force weenie.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Don't be dissin' my boy Bob......

[goldstategop]

Brent Scowcroft has been wrong about everything. And if a "vital role" for the UN is what people think it means, we'll win the war and lose the peace. Or so Scowcroft & company fervently hope is the outcome.

[cookcounty]

"Can one of you Army-types please explain some of the Army's organizational terms. I understand sqad, platoon, and company, at least for an infantry outfit, and I think of a Division as a base-sized(fort) unit (~10,000 troops, correct?), but I haven't got a clue about a brigade or a regiment. Please help this former Air Force weenie."

Generally speaking, 4 companies make up a battalion, 3 (or 4) battalions make up a Brigade, and 3 brigades make up a Division.

From large to small:

Division
Brigade
Battalion
Company
Platoon
Squad

----Phil, 3rd Infantry Division, 1971-73

[Nick Danger]

Brent Scowcroft... warned in a speech in Oslo that the United States and Britain could provoke a backlash in the Arab world

I think we should have a rule that any talking head who warns us about a "backlash in the Arab world" has to spend a night in the box. This threat is becoming sooooo tiresome. At root it is an argument for doing nothing... ever. Because no matter what we do, it pisses them off. At some point, we just have to say, "to Hell with them."

[cookcounty]

"Division" is not "fort-based." It's a large, complete fighting unit with all the tools, including Artillery Batteries, Support Units of all kinds, Transport, Supply, Engineering, Medical, etc. Currently, 3rd ID has 2 brigades assigned to Fort Stewart Georgia, while the Therd Brigade is based in Fort Benning. Most Forts don't have any Divisions, or only portions of Divisions.

[algol]

could provoke a backlash in the Arab world, including a surge in anti-American terrorism,

Thereby providing us with more excuses to go in and clean them out. (Although apparently we're doing a pretty good job of catching them before they carry out anything.)

Bring 'em on.

(Anway, they haven't insisted on a dominant role other than long enough for Iraq to run things on its own. But who knows how long that will take.)

[libertylover]

Thank you for that information. What's a "regiment"?

[LTCJ]

I haven't got a clue about a brigade or a regiment. Please help this former Air Force weenie.

Well, as a green-suit liaison to an Air Force unit, perhaps I can help.

A regiment is roughly equivalent to a group and a brigade is roughly equivalent to a wing.

Speaking as a home-town boy, I'm proud to say the newest resident's of the main palace in downtown Baghdad are the fine Georgia troopers of 2d Brigade Combat Team, 3d ID(M). Couldn't ask for greater neighbors and friends.

God bless 'em all.

[Maynerd]

Scowcroft deserves plenty of credit for the awful political outcome of Desert Storm I. Now this pompous ass is giving unsolicited advice to "W". Thereby, fueling the the NYT's and other critics fire.

[LTCJ]

What's a "regiment"?

Take a look at 3d ID(M) structure. Note that in my previous post, Air Force / Army command structures are roughly equivalent but the manpower levels are heavier for the Army units. Regiments and brigades are roughly equivalent in size but regiments are traditionally specialized in scope to Ranger, Cavalry, and Aviation units. Both regiments and brigades are composed of battalions.

[Mo1]

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[kabar]

Brent Scowcroft, who was national security adviser for President Bush's father, entered the debate on the planning for postwar Iraq today. He warned in a speech in Oslo that the United States and Britain could provoke a backlash in the Arab world, including a surge in anti-American terrorism, if they insist on a dominant role in running Iraq.

It is hard to take criticism or advice from the guys who lost the peace in the Gulf War. It may be instructive to see where Scowcroft gets his money. It wouldn't surprise me if there is some Arab money funding him either directly or indirectly. So many of our officials have received money from the Saudis and other rich Gulf Arabs. They fund libraries, think tanks, and a host of other projects that obligate the recipients to support them lest they lose the money.