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Palestinians stunned by collapse of Saddam's regime
Jerusalem Post ^ | 04/09/03 | KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Posted on 04/09/2003 11:13:27 AM PDT by bedolido

There was shock and disbelief in the West Bank and Gaza Strip Wednesday as Palestinians gathered around TV sets to watch US Marines and Iraqi residents knock down a giant statute of Saddam Hussein in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad.

"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah.

He and grim-faced fellow shopkeepers zapped from one Arab TV station to another with the hope of discovering that what they were hearing and watching was nothing more than a US-produced Hollywood film.

"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Some Palestinian officials, however, expressed relief that the war was in its final stages now that Saddam's regime has collapsed. They said they hoped that now the US and the rest of the world would pay more attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

"We hope that Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told The Jerusalem Post. "Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on our people."

Since the beginning of the war, many Palestinians have been staging daily demonstrations in support of Saddam. The protests have often turned into anti-American and anti-British rallies where Palestinians burned effigies of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

At least two Palestinian groups, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, announced that they had dispatched suicide bombers to Iraq to join in the fight against the US and British troops. Hundreds of Palestinian volunteers from Lebanon, Syria and the West Bank and Gaza Strip are reported to have arrived in Iraq to participate in the fighting.

"This is a sad day for all the Arabs and Muslims, particularly the Palestinians," said Nael al-Am, a 36-year-old grocery owner in Ramallah. He is one of the few merchants who still keep a large-size poster of the deposed Iraqi president. Friends describe him as a staunch supporter of Saddam.

"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."

Salim Jaber, a taxi driver from the nearby town of Beitunia, said he decided to call it a day when he heard on radio the news from Baghdad. "I just couldn't continue driving," he said. "It was very difficult for me and the passengers. I've never seen such solemn faces. It was as if they had lost dear ones."

Many Palestinians said Saddam was the only Arab leader who sided with them both morally and financially in their confrontation with Israel. "He gave us a sense of pride because he was the only Arab leader who stood up against Israel and the US," said Abdel Majiud al-Bahs, a 46-year-old engineer. "Now that Saddam is gone, the Palestinians feel like orphans. We have lost an important ally. He was even more popular than Yasser Arafat."

Since the beginning of the intifada more than two years ago, Saddam has paid about 30 million dollars to families of Palestinian victims of the violence, including suicide bombers who blew themselves up in Israel. The money was channeled through the pro-Iraqi Arab Liberation Front, a tiny Palestinian faction operating in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The last time Saddam's representative handed out checks to Palestinians was last week.

Some Palestinians chose to vent their anger on the Arab media, especially al-Jazeera, Abu Dhabi and al-Arabiya TV stations, for broadcasting lies about the developments on the battlefield. "For the past three weeks these stations gave us the impression that Iraq had the upper hand in the fighting against the US and British forces," complained Yahya al-Natsheh, the owner of a boutique in al-Bireh, the twin city of Ramallah.

"Where is the liar [Iraqi information minister Mohammed] Sahhaf," he asked rhetorically. "He sounded and looked so confidant when he told us that the Iraqis were slaughtering the crusaders and mercenaries at the gates of Baghdad. Everyone believed that the Iraqis were cleverly luring the Americans and British into Baghdad, which was supposed into a huge graveyard for the crusaders."

Older Palestinians said the events in Iraq are reminiscent of the Six Day War, when Arab radio stations and leaders told their audiences that Israel was on the verge of defeat. They said the TV appearances of the Iraqi information minister, who remained defiant till the last minute, insisting that everything was under control and that the enemy had been defeated.

"Sahhaf reminded me of [Egyptian radio propagandist] Ahmed Said, who during the 1967 war, told us that the Israeli warplanes were falling like flies," said Abed al-Zamel, a 70-year-old retired schoolteacher from Silwad village near Ramallah. "Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antiamericans; arab; arabstreet; baghdadbob; iraq; iraqifreedom; iraqifreedon; liberation; lies; media; mediabias; pa; palestinians; palies; plo; propoganda; prosaddam; saddam; topplesaddam; victory; war
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1 posted on 04/09/2003 11:13:27 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah"

Awwwww.........

2 posted on 04/09/2003 11:15:35 AM PDT by sauropod (I'm a man... But I can change... If I have to.... I guess...................)
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To: bedolido
hopefully many of these people will realize they've been lied to
3 posted on 04/09/2003 11:15:56 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: bedolido
"We now hope Washington will have time ... "

Once again, we run into the same old song and dance of "America is bad, but they'd better come here and solve our problems."
4 posted on 04/09/2003 11:15:56 AM PDT by kemathen7
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To: sauropod
All those babies named Saddam.....how do you say Rummy in Arabic?
5 posted on 04/09/2003 11:16:47 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: bedolido; dennisw; Alouette; dighton; Lent
Palestinians stunned Astonished by collapse of Saddam's regime


6 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:07 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: bedolido
Oh nooooooo. Does this mean that families of suicide bombers won't be getting a $25,000 check from Saddam?
7 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:08 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: bedolido
Palestinians may be unhappy now, but when they realize that the U.S.-led coalition does not intend to occupy Iraq long-term, and that Iraqis will eventually govern themselves, and that they (Palestinians) may finally get their own "state" if President Bush has anything to say about it, they will change their tune!
8 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:13 AM PDT by CarmelValleyite
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To: bedolido; KLT; countrydummy; hellinahandcart; Doctor Raoul; kristinn; Angelwood
"He gave us a sense of pride because he was the only Arab leader who stood up against Israel and the US," said Abdel Majiud al-Bahs, a 46-year-old engineer. "Now that Saddam is gone, the Palestinians feel like orphans. We have lost an important ally. He was even more popular than Yasser Arafat."

I would never cross a bridge this "Engineer" designed!

9 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:17 AM PDT by sauropod (I'm a man... But I can change... If I have to.... I guess...................)
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To: bedolido
"Shock and Awe" as moderate Muslims realize they've been hosed.
10 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:31 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Steven W.
This is going to change the face of the Middle East forever. George W. Bush will go down in history as the leader who had the guts to expose the truth the the Arab World and move it into this century. Thank God we finally have a principled President. Thank God.
11 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:47 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: bedolido
Nazis, Soviets, French, Taliban, Osama, Saddam, etc. Just a short list of regimes those morons the pallies have supported. Here's a tip...if the pallies support someone, bet on the other team.
12 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:51 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: bedolido
Only the guy in the last paragraph gets it. All the rest are in an irreversible coma due to the lies of their 'leaders' and 'media'.
13 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:55 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: bedolido
GREAT article! i was waiting for a response in the arab world concerning the developments of this morning!
14 posted on 04/09/2003 11:17:58 AM PDT by korean-conservative
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To: bedolido
"Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on our people."
First order of business, destroy the madrassas of hate... this poor guy has some big shocks coming.
15 posted on 04/09/2003 11:18:06 AM PDT by Libertina (God Bless our Commander In Chief and our Troops!)
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To: sauropod
"maybe now the Americans will have time to stop Israeli agression"...........HeHe!
16 posted on 04/09/2003 11:18:09 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: bedolido
As the truth comes out, the depression will settle in even further!
17 posted on 04/09/2003 11:18:24 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: bedolido
"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening,"

That's because you've been lied to all your life.

18 posted on 04/09/2003 11:18:32 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: bedolido
Looks like the Arab media is even worse than ours. Our media is a pest compared to their Arab media who tell outright lies that go beyond one's imagination! Telling the Arabs that the Iraqi's were winning in Baghdad was one huge whopper and coming back to bite the Arab media.
19 posted on 04/09/2003 11:18:33 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: bedolido
When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."

Hell, that's why I don't watch CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC

20 posted on 04/09/2003 11:18:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Steven W.
hopefully many of these people will realize they've been lied to

BINGO!!!

21 posted on 04/09/2003 11:19:06 AM PDT by HOYA97
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To: CarmelValleyite
Until the Palestinians throw out their own culture of death, they will have nothing to gain.
22 posted on 04/09/2003 11:19:07 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: bedolido
When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out.

Smart man, smarter than the remaining Americans who still watch CBS, ABC and NBC.

23 posted on 04/09/2003 11:19:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: bedolido
I am absolutely DELIGHTED! I can't stop smiling and laughing!
24 posted on 04/09/2003 11:19:27 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: bedolido
>"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers?

They all killed themselves. I wonder how many of the Palis are still waiting for the Sadaam check after sacrificing their children? One good outcome of the fall of Sadaam is that one of the main financial drivers of the suicide bomber industry has ceased.

25 posted on 04/09/2003 11:19:47 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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26 posted on 04/09/2003 11:19:49 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Well, there's some over here..and here..
and here.. and here..

whoops! heres a bit of ear...and some over there--->

anything else the pals need to know? HA!
27 posted on 04/09/2003 11:19:52 AM PDT by Roughneck (Get the U.N. out of the U.S, and get the U.S. out of the U.N.)
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These "palestinians" never get it, do they?

hehe..they were "shocked and awed" by the might of the American Military. LoL!

28 posted on 04/09/2003 11:19:56 AM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (Fight for Freedom, Americans! Fight to be free! Fight for your freedom, Iraqi People!)
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To: bedolido; Carolina; Howlin; Dog; mhking
Some Palestinians chose to vent their anger on the Arab media, especially al-Jazeera, Abu Dhabi and al-Arabiya TV stations, for broadcasting lies about the developments on the battlefield. "For the past three weeks these stations gave us the impression that Iraq had the upper hand in the fighting against the US and British forces," complained Yahya al-Natsheh, the owner of a boutique in al-Bireh, the twin city of Ramallah.

"Where is the liar [Iraqi information minister Mohammed] Sahhaf," he asked rhetorically. "He sounded and looked so confidant when he told us that the Iraqis were slaughtering the crusaders and mercenaries at the gates of Baghdad. Everyone believed that the Iraqis were cleverly luring the Americans and British into Baghdad, which was supposed into a huge graveyard for the crusaders." Older Palestinians said the events in Iraq are reminiscent of the Six Day War, when Arab radio stations and leaders told their audiences that Israel was on the verge of defeat. They said the TV appearances of the Iraqi information minister, who remained defiant till the last minute, insisting that everything was under control and that the enemy had been defeated.

"Sahhaf reminded me of [Egyptian radio propagandist] Ahmed Said, who during the 1967 war, told us that the Israeli warplanes were falling like flies," said Abed al-Zamel, a 70-year-old retired schoolteacher from Silwad village near Ramallah. "Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."

Can anybody just said it out loud to these deceived ones: You are following LIARS! STOP IT!

29 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:08 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: bedolido
I can't understand what is happening,"

It is called an ass kicking. Want one there akbar.

30 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:10 AM PDT by NC Conservative
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To: bedolido
"Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Well, there's pieces of them over there...and some over there...and thereandthereandthereandthereand...

31 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:10 AM PDT by TheBigB (Is Hans Blix related to Helen Keller?)
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To: bedolido
"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah.

He and grim-faced fellow shopkeepers zapped from one Arab TV station to another with the hope of discovering that what they were hearing and watching was nothing more than a US-produced Hollywood film.

"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

These guys must post over on DU. The comments are just about identical, word-for-word.

32 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:17 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: bedolido
>>The protests have often turned into anti-American and anti-British rallies where Palestinians burned effigies of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair. <<

I'm no diplomat, but that's not the way I'd try to get the US to "help me out."
33 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:20 AM PDT by Not Insane
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To: AppyPappy
Great minds, etc.
34 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: bedolido
Quote of the day:
"For the past three weeks these stations gave us the impression that Iraq had the upper hand in the fighting against the US and British forces," complained Yahya al-Natsheh
35 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:30 AM PDT by SirAllen
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To: sauropod
"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

They're dead, Abu.

36 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:37 AM PDT by ConservativeLawyer (God Bless our troops!)
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37 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:39 AM PDT by nutmeg (Where's Baghdad Bob???)
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To: bedolido
We never learn from our mistakes

No sh*t, Dick Tracy!!

38 posted on 04/09/2003 11:20:56 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: bedolido
"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."

Ah, my heart bleeds for you, Abdullah.

39 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:03 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: bedolido
"Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."

Now, the Arabs need to take this one step further, realizing that the lies don't stop with the war propaganda. If they can remove these blindfolds, they will be on the road to true freedom.

40 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:04 AM PDT by FourPeas (Iran is not a simple sentence.)
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41 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:08 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: bedolido
"Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."

And the truth has come out.

42 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:27 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb the hell out of saddam. Bomb saddam to hell.)
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To: bedolido
Some Palestinians chose to vent their anger on the Arab media, especially al-Jazeera, Abu Dhabi and al-Arabiya TV stations, for broadcasting lies about the developments on the battlefield.

Good. Now maybe they'll being to understand the extent to which their leaders and media (a redundancy) have been lying to them all along.

43 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:27 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: bedolido
"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper.

He should look on the bright side. With satellite, at least he can now be as well-informed as Janeane Garofalo.

44 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:28 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: bedolido
Jeez, do you think maybe they realize now that the lies from their Arab leaders spread deeper than just the war? Heck they would be in REAL shock if Israel pulled out and went home stating that the war is over.
45 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:31 AM PDT by m1-lightning ("We ought not politicize this war" - Tom Daschle, 09/25/02)
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To: sauropod
"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah"

I am deeply saddened and disappointed...

46 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:34 AM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: sauropod
>I would never cross a bridge this "Engineer" designed!

Never hang out with Palestinians called the engineer. That's bad for your health.

47 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:35 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: bedolido
I feel the mother of all 'Arab street' headaches beginning.

The feeling of impotance after being lied to all these years will take years and years of depression to shake.
48 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:49 AM PDT by snooker
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To: Trust but Verify
I'm glad I saw your comment because I stopped reading the article a quarter of the way through.
49 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:51 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: bedolido
"Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Worm food.
Any other questions?

V


50 posted on 04/09/2003 11:21:56 AM PDT by Beck_isright (Oh the quagmire of it all....)
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