Posted on 04/10/2003 4:27:37 PM PDT by backhoe
From a WSJ article:
Will our troops find caches of poison gas, or even be hit by it on the battlefield? If so, German and French companies will be mainly to blame. In the 1980's, the German firm Karl Kolb and the French firm Protec combined to furnish millions of dollars' worth of sensitive equipment to six separate plants for making mustard gas and nerve agents, with a capacity of hundreds of tons of nerve agent per year. These companies had to know what the specialized glass-lined vessels they peddled were to be used for. It is insufferable that, like Pontius Pilate, Germany and France now wash their hands of the whole affair, and even chastise others for cleaning up the mess their companies helped create.
And how would the poison gas be carried? A gas doesn't stream through the ether by itself to reach a target. A specially prepared munition has to deliver it. Iraq admits that in the 1980's it bought more than 3,000 chemical-ready aerial bombs from Spain, more than 8,000 chemical-ready artillery shells from Italy and Spain, and more than 12,000 chemical-ready rocket warheads from Italy and Egypt. Most of these munitions remain unaccounted for. If our troops take casualties from a gas attack, they will have been inflicted by an international consortium of reckless suppliers.
There are also some Scud-type missiles to worry about that were left over from the first Gulf War. Saddam may fire some at Tel Aviv (as in 1991) to goad Israel into the fighting. Our friends the Russians sold Iraq 819 of these missiles, but the Iraqis soon discovered they didn't fly far enough. Their range had to be increased to reach Tel Aviv, where they flattened buildings in the first Gulf War, and to bombard Saudi Arabia, where they killed 28 American soldiers sleeping in their barracks. The Germans were only too happy to provide what was needed to make the missiles more lethal. From the German firm Thyssen came 35 turbopumps to enhance their rocket engines; from the firms BP, Carl Zeiss, Degussa and Tesa came training in wind tunnels and missile electronics; and from the electronic giant Siemens came switching devices and electrical systems to control missile fuel production. Not to be left out, Britain's Matrix Churchill Ltd. (in which the Iraqis had a controlling interest) supplied sensitive machine tools, Britain's TMG Engineering served as a front company for missile procurement, and U.S. defense contractor Litton Industries bankrolled the German firm that built Iraq's main missile production complex.
And anthrax? Botulinum? Most of the strains to make these deadly agents came from an outfit in Maryland - the American Type Culture Collection. France's Pasteur Institute also sold some. The Iraqis admitted producing 8,445 liters of anthrax (inspectors think three times as much was made) and almost 20,000 liters of botulinum. Both of these germs were loaded into missile warheads and aerial bombs. The Iraqis were also working on airborne spray devices. These weapons too remain mostly unaccounted for. If our troops or cities are attacked with this material, our own bugs will be coming back to bite us.
In all, the rush to outfit Saddam with mass destruction weapons reveals a lot about national morals. Our organization did a study of Saddam's pre-Gulf War suppliers a few year back. We discovered that Germany garnered fully half the total sales. In fact, just before the Gulf War, Germany was selling complete, ready-to-operate poison gas plants to Iraq and Libya at the same time. The rest of the world divided the remaining half of Iraq's purchases. The Swiss, who have an unreasonably good reputation in the world, placed second in the sweepstakes with about 8% of sales (specialized presses, milling machines, grinding machines and electrical discharge machines found at nuclear weapon sites; procurement of missile parts and supervision of missile plant construction; equipment for processing uranium to nuclear weapon grade). In third place, with 4% each, Italy and France scored a tie.
There was a coup in Iraq in 1963. What do we know about the U.S. involvement in that coup?
The U.S. involvement in the coup against Kassem in Iraq in 1963 was substantial. There is evidence that CIA agents were in touch with army officers who were involved in the coup. There is evidence that an electronic command center was set up in Kuwait to guide the forces who were fighting Kassem. There is evidence that they supplied the conspirators with lists of people who had to be eliminated immediately in order to ensure success. The relationship between the Americans and the Ba'ath Party at that moment in time was very close indeed. And that continued for some time after the coup. And there was an exchange of information between the two sides. For example it was one of the first times that the United States was able to get certain models of Mig fighters and certain tanks made in the Soviet Union. That was the bribe. That was what the Ba'ath had to offer the United States in return for their help in eliminating Kassem.
Sounds like an all too typical specimen...
I will tell you the truth-- I quit trying to debate, or change anyone's mind, during the impeachment fiasco.
It used to be that people over on the Left side of the aisle had some regard for facts and evidence versus mere opinions, but those days fled with the reign of the man I dubbed Little Big Fraud.
The 1990's ushered in a decade of deceit, spin, swindles, and frauds unlike any I have ever witnessed- and I hope to never witness it again.
You all claimed that Germany had something to hide and had doubts that it´s just their radical pacifism...
The electronics for the Scuds? Oh yeah, ok. But that´s not secret and that was delivered until 1991...
So, I ask you: what has the German government (that is in office since 1998 - before that Kohl was in power) to hide?
They did not.
They had supplied stuff to Iraq and others and recieved funds from their bank collateralized with some sort of paper..... foreign government depositorey receipts or some such. They collected no money. They had a fancy paper dreamed up by their banks. They had millions and millions of dollars worth.
At first, they offered these notes as payment. We demurred. they then increased trhe amount against somene's dream of a value in US$. We demurred. They had the Iraqui's call us and tell us they would accept the notes against Iraqui goods. We give the Russians fax machines, they give us Iraqui paper and the Iraqi's give us Iraqi made goods. We demurred. No $$$$, no stuff.
The incredible fact is the Russians are stupid. They had their factories crank out the stuff shipped to Iraq and instead of getting paid, they took paper. They ran the paper thru their banking system and made it appear that there had been a completed transaction. This practice also was used in trade with other nations as well. The folks we were dealing with had all kinds of these bank receipts, but Most were from Iraq.
They could not believe that they had done all that work for literally nothing. The system that one day just up and failed was based on colossal stupidity.
The Russians will never ever collect from Iraq. The recent trade resulted in a greater screwing than the old days.
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