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How neoconservatives conquered Washington - and launched a war (Jewish conspiracy barf alert)
Salon ^ | April 9, 2003 | Michael Lind

Posted on 04/11/2003 12:31:17 AM PDT by Asher

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To: Asher

Now, how does that work exactly?

US Constitution, Article 1, section 3 makes it plain as day that each state shall have two (2) Senators.

That being the case, how does a handful of "over represented" States equate to Republican control of the Senate?

41 posted on 04/11/2003 1:18:46 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Well, go on.. Get yourself on over to the fundraiser thread and donate to FR!)
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To: Asher
I have a number of doubts about the facts Lind quickly rattles off, and further question the significants of others. Undoubtly he makes a mountain out of a mole hill of evidence. But what I don't see in his article is any thing anti-semitic, as you and most all of the poster's replies have gone to great lengths to suggest. Some times I miss the obvious, and need to have the particulars pointed out.

Please accept my short comings, and point out what in the article is anti-semitic, or for that matter even anti-Israel.

42 posted on 04/11/2003 5:00:15 PM PDT by jackbob
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To: Asher
Selling out Isreal? How any American can say we have ever sold Isreal out is beyond me. Isreal is our best ally? Of course she is (other than the spying on us and selective selling of our secrets.) I have no doubt that Isreal benefits from her alliance to us. I just don't see how we benefit from ours to Isreal.
43 posted on 04/12/2003 10:13:12 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (B)
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To: stands2reason
Michael Lind is an ex-conservative turned liberal.

"*Shudder* How does that happen? Ice pick lobotomy?"

Lind bolted the conservative movement in 1993, claiming it had been taken over by the Religious Right and was intellectually "dead".

Now, according to him, the Neocon Jews have ousted the Bible Belters. It's an ecumenical bloodbath over here, I'm tellin' ya.

Though the overt anti-semitism may remind some of PJB, Lind isn't really comparable. When it comes to God, Lind is an equal opportunity offender. I suspect he has no time for Allah, either. Nor could Lind care less about "culture wars".

That Salon gave Lind a forum for this incoherent anti-semitic rant is stunning. Would Rush Limbaugh turn over any of his airtime to some shortwave nutbar?

Salon was already finished financially. Now, it's finished as a credible voice for sanity on the left.

Shocking. You'd think they had more sense. And taste...

44 posted on 04/12/2003 11:27:43 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Burkeman1
"I just don't see how we benefit from ours to Isreal."

I wouldn't expect an individual like you, unable even to spell Israel correctly and imbued as you still are with the vile prejudices of your ancestors, to understand this. One example: think very hard about the Iraq nuclear reactor and imagine what would have happened to America had Israel, despite virulent U.S. protests, had not taken it out and Saddam was able to build a nuclear bomb.

And as for America selling out Israel and the Jews I have a list as long as your arm. For example:

1) The vicious anti-Semitic immigration policy employed by the State Department during the Holocaust which condemned countless hundreds of thousands to death.

2) The complete failure of America to lift a finger to help the Jews of Europe including the failure to speak out about the atrocities and the refusal to bomb the railway tracks at Auschwitz which condemned 600,000 Hungarian Jews to death.

3) Between 1948 and the 1967 the complete abandonment of Israel.

4) The compelling of Israel to halt the wars in 1967 and 1973 thus condemning her to unsatisfactory victories.

5) The Oslo agreement pushed by Bush 41 and his sidekick James ("f*ck the Jews") Baker which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Israeli civilians.

6) The total failure at various times of the U.S. to give information to Israel which was necessary to defend herself.

America does not support Israel for any other reason than if push comes to shove and her vital oil supplies were in danger and the Arab/Moslem world had turned against her, Israel would be the launching pad for a war. That she also served as a bulwark against the Soviet-backed Arab regimes was also at one time a vital issue.

I have said this before and I'll repeat it: two thousand years of history has shown that despite the incredible contribution of Jews to society gentiles will always betray them. In other words, you are the cross we have to bear. I do not expect anything different from the U.S. once Israel proves too much of an inconvenience.

I am not American as you suggested, but I do admire the U.S. in innumerable ways. However, as a Jew I am well aware of our history and that, sooner or later, the gentile will turn against us and try to destroy us. The "road map" is just the start. I am also aware enough to realise that Jews are no safer in the U.S. than they were in Germany or the Soviet Union; even in this forum, the foul stench of anti-Semitism is all around us. No place in the diaspora is safe for the Jewish people.
45 posted on 04/13/2003 1:32:03 AM PDT by Asher
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To: Asher
A very revealing rant. Thank you.

PS- when you mentioned my ancestors did you mean just Irish people or anyone not Jewish (i.e. the entire world?)
46 posted on 04/14/2003 1:33:57 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (B)
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