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"Harkin: Iraq war ousted 'paper tiger'"
Des Moines Register ^ | 11/04/03 | Jane Norman

Posted on 04/11/2003 8:37:06 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma

"A quick fall of Saddam's regime shows he was never a serous threat, the Iowa senator says."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: hallofshame; harkin; iowa; war
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1 posted on 04/11/2003 8:37:06 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Tell that to the families of those that died.

How truly outrageous and unfeeling.
2 posted on 04/11/2003 8:38:37 AM PDT by h-roark
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
And so it begins...how predictable.
3 posted on 04/11/2003 8:38:50 AM PDT by Desecrated
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
The Left's new line: "It was easy, so that proves military force was unnecessary."
4 posted on 04/11/2003 8:39:14 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
LOL!! It is laughable how the Demos. are grabbing at straws to attempt justification for their erroneous positions!
5 posted on 04/11/2003 8:39:45 AM PDT by whadizit
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6 posted on 04/11/2003 8:39:56 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Someone needs to ask Harkin to name someone who said the Iraqi army was a threat to the U.S. That was NOT why we invaded.
7 posted on 04/11/2003 8:40:09 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
This is a glorious day. All across the land, Democrats just can't take it any more, and the normal political instinct to know when to shut up is being discarded in a vain effort to spin this outcome. These comments are gonna haunt the Dems big-time next year.
8 posted on 04/11/2003 8:40:13 AM PDT by dirtboy (United States 2, Terror-sponsoring nations 0, waiting to see who's next in the bracket)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Spin . . . spin . . . spin. I wonder if anyone can dig up any earlier quotes of Harkin predicting a quagmire, thousands of casualties, etc. But, in the final analysis, Harkin should ask the people of Irag if Saddam was a harmless little gnat.
9 posted on 04/11/2003 8:40:26 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Desecrated
And so it begins...how predictable.

Yup, it is very predictable. Denegrate military success because it goes against their "war never solves anything" core belief. Cognitive dissonance. Sip the punch, repeat after me..."ignorance is bliss"

10 posted on 04/11/2003 8:40:36 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
It's easy to sit in an airconditioned Washington office and call this effort easy. Typical lib.
11 posted on 04/11/2003 8:40:44 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Tom, your hero Bill Clinton bombed Serbia for 78 days, killing countless number of civilians with very few US casualties, and Milosevic wasn't any threat to the US, yet you cheered that war on. Your opinion means NOTHING!
12 posted on 04/11/2003 8:42:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Individual Democrats continue to secure their personal leftist bases at the price of rendering the Democratic party unelectable on a national level.

This makes me happy.

13 posted on 04/11/2003 8:42:31 AM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Harkin voted for a congressional resolution authorizing use of force before last year's election, but earlier this year became increasingly critical of the move toward war, saying President Bush was not consulting enough with Congress or extending diplomatic efforts.

Another jerk having it both ways.

14 posted on 04/11/2003 8:42:42 AM PDT by dighton (Amen-Corner Hatchet Team, Nasty Little Clique)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
What an a..hole!! Those words are sure to COMFORT our POWS and the families of our fallen heros. Iowa should be ashamed they elected that p...k!
15 posted on 04/11/2003 8:43:01 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
So, that means that those who PROTESTED against the Iraq war were WAY WRONG!!

They were the ones that thought that a war w/Iraq would be a many years long Vietnam-like quaqmire!

16 posted on 04/11/2003 8:43:59 AM PDT by Tom Pain
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To: dighton
Yea, but recently he claimed Bush hustled him and deceived him but he (Harkin) had seen the light.
17 posted on 04/11/2003 8:44:07 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; All
This smarmy snideness of the demonrats is going to kill them. People don't like others who rain of the parade. Right now this country is aglow over what has been accomplished in Iraq. The 'rats are simply out of step with the march of history.
18 posted on 04/11/2003 8:44:15 AM PDT by x1stcav (HooAhh!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Ah, yes. Dungheap Harkin. He and Bagdad Bob are cut out of the same cloth. How predictable and how tedious it is to listen to such drivel.
19 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:01 AM PDT by Adrastus
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To: dighton
He is without honor.God Bless our troops
20 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:13 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Hmm. Slapping the face of voters in the military.

Again.
21 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:30 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: dirtboy
I LOVE it....if these idiots keep talking like this, then America will see a new dawn...an era in which liberal democrats are thrown out of office in every village, hamlet, and city from sea to shinning sea.
22 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:55 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: dighton
"approved the resolution . . . but earlier this year became increasingly critical"

Because he has neither balls nor the courage of his convictions. He saw the street demonstrations and went limp.
23 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:59 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: MEG33
Harkin draws conclusions like he draws flies.
24 posted on 04/11/2003 8:46:38 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
So were the Iraqi people he murdered paper people? Did he only cut out paper tongues? Etc... What a shameful view.
25 posted on 04/11/2003 8:46:52 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Tm Harkin, man of...integrity?...who lied, claiming to be a Vietnam veteran, and isn't.

Nothing...absolutely nothing he says has any credibility in the face of such a monumentally immoral lie.

26 posted on 04/11/2003 8:47:17 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mr. Bird
"Someone needs to ask Harkin to name someone who said the Iraqi army was a threat to the U.S. That was NOT why we invaded."

Huh? excuse me,you're kidding aren't you?

Isn't that how it was originally sold to the American public? first, the potential threat of WMDs & bio-chemical attacks on us, it then became liberation of the Iraqi people, then it became regime change.


27 posted on 04/11/2003 8:47:27 AM PDT by poet
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To: h-roark
Yeah, 2 weeks ago we were in a quagmire....geeeeez!
28 posted on 04/11/2003 8:47:38 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Saddam...your time is almost up..my hubby and son are on their way to kick your a$$ out of Baghdad!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
"So if they were that weak, where we could just roll over them like that, tell me again how he was such a big threat in the past?" the senator added.

Amazing.

29 posted on 04/11/2003 8:48:26 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
As an Iowan, nothing Tom Harkin says surprises me. He has been talking out of both sides of his mouth for so long, he would lie if the truth was better. This guy makes me want to vomit, and I am appalled that every six years, he manages to trick enough middle-of-the-road voters to get himself elected. His stunt of authorizing force prior to the election, then running away from his position after the fact is classic Harkin. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

DeepHoop
30 posted on 04/11/2003 8:48:28 AM PDT by Deep Hoop
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To: dirtboy
"All across the land, Democrats just can't take it any more, and the normal political instinct to know when to shut up is being discarded in a vain effort to spin this outcome."

Beautiful thing to see isn't it?

31 posted on 04/11/2003 8:48:54 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Well, if anything, he goes directly AGAINST what America feels in recent polls where about 70%+ think this war is just regardless of Saddams WMD or military might based on his war crimes. Not that im a big fan to invade any country who has atrocities, but it was exceptionally poor in Iraq.

Needless to say, WMD will be found and so will inks to other "friends" like France and Russia.
32 posted on 04/11/2003 8:49:06 AM PDT by smith288 (Visit my gallery http://www.ejsmithweb.com/fr/hollywood/hollywood.php)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I suppose if it was you or your loved ones who were being fed into one of those human shredder machines Mr. Senator ... or receiving the chemical attacks ... or enduring the rape rooms ... or having your friggin arms ripped off by the feyadeen you might feel a little different about his being a paper tiger ... you flaming, ignorant, self-serving, bastardized IDIOT!.

Winning Iraqi Freedom

33 posted on 04/11/2003 8:49:07 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: poet
The Iraqi army--tanks, guns, et cetera--weren't the threat. The threat was Iraq's WMD arsenal, and his apparent willingness to cozy up to terrorists.
34 posted on 04/11/2003 8:49:32 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Harkin: It will never be known whether there could have been a nonmilitary resolution to the standoff over weapons of mass destruction
35 posted on 04/11/2003 8:49:36 AM PDT by syriacus (Wouldn't a sniper use a silencer if he were shooting from a hotel filled with journalists?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Yes, and Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of the Berlin wall, and we were all cold warriors anyway. In fact we forced Bush to go into this war, he wanted to leave those poor Iraqi's in prison. How dare anyone question the liberals vision on Human Rights.

/sacasm

36 posted on 04/11/2003 8:49:49 AM PDT by sharkhawk
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
With all due respect, Tom. You're an (_!_).
37 posted on 04/11/2003 8:50:38 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: mystery-ak
Attack the war and if that doesn't work, attack the peace.

Harkin is a person who truly does not belong in the Senate. Maybe I can resign myself to having Saddam Hussein supporters elected from place like New York and California, but it is the 'Rats who get elected from the Red Zone states that are really killing us.

38 posted on 04/11/2003 8:51:30 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
"We should not attack Iraq, because they are too weak. They are no threat."
"We should not attack North Korea, because they have nukes. They are too much of a threat."
"Weapons inspections are not working, and have not worked in the past. But we should keep trying."
"We should pass UN Resolutions, but block efforts to enforce them. To enforce them might make the UN seem irrelevant."
39 posted on 04/11/2003 8:51:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Mr. Bird
Losers going for the losers ...

beast train // bridge ---

even junta reno was publicly going saddamn sypathizer // Bush critic ...

After watching President Bush's address ... Reno said --- ''We will not solve the world's problems by might.''

''I had hoped people would come up with an opportunity for him * to save face,'' she said.

... * ... Bush !

40 posted on 04/11/2003 8:51:49 AM PDT by f.Christian (( who you gonna call ... 1 800 orc // evo bstr ))
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To: smith288
"WMD will be found and so will links to other friends like France and Russia"

There was a post yesterday which described the sources of Iraq's military arsenal, and virtually all of it was from France, Germany, Russia, and China.
41 posted on 04/11/2003 8:52:03 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Funny what you get out of a dunghill, to quote ole Tom.
42 posted on 04/11/2003 8:53:06 AM PDT by dts32041 (US EPWs clothed and Fed, Iraqi EPWs bullet to the head.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
What we were told and what you saw in the press last fall and earlier this year is that he had a massive war machine," said Harkin, the most outspoken critic of the war in Iraq among members of the Iowa congressional delegation.

We were NEVER told that. We were told their conventional forces had been diminished since 91, but that they have been developing WMD capabilities that must be stopped for OBVIOUS reasons.

"It looks now like this was just a Third World country - there were people fighting with tennis shoes on, on the Iraqi side," Harkin told reporters.

Patty Murray? Seriously, it's funny to hear this communist deride the "third world" country of Iraq. The guy is sick. He is actually pissed that we have been successful.

"I don't know what else we're going to find, but..."

That won't stop you from braying like the jackass dumbocrat you are.

"So if they were that weak, where we could just roll over them like that, tell me again how he was such a big threat in the past?" the senator added.

No problem. Osama and his boys were in even worse shape than Iraq militarily and financially, and yet they were a signficant threat, as 9-11 showed the world. If Saddam's regime were permitted to develop WMD, he would pose an even worse threat to US security.

43 posted on 04/11/2003 8:53:10 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
North Korea is a paper tiger too, except now that have nukes and can kill 10 million people with the press of a button. We should have waited til Saddam had that power.
44 posted on 04/11/2003 8:53:17 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I guess the Taliban, was no serious threat either.
I swear, everytime a leftist takes a breath, it's a waste of perfectly good air.
45 posted on 04/11/2003 8:53:17 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: poet
"first, the potential threat of WMDs & bio-chemical attacks on us, it then became liberation of the Iraqi people, then it became regime change."

Excuse me, because you're kidding aren't you? You didn't even mention his Army in YOUR post.

His military itself was never the justification for going to war with Iraq.

46 posted on 04/11/2003 8:53:54 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
As an Iowan let me apologize to all here on FR for this idiot (and all those idiots who keep voting for him).
47 posted on 04/11/2003 8:55:31 AM PDT by 3Lean
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To: Paraclete

"So if they were that weak, where we could just roll over them like that, tell me again how he was such a big threat in the past?"

"We could have probably brought down that statue for a lot less."

Panic Grips the DNC

48 posted on 04/11/2003 8:57:09 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
A quick fall of Saddam's regime shows he was never a serous threat,

This line and mindset of/from the left was predicted a couple weeks ago here on FR.

49 posted on 04/11/2003 8:58:20 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: dfwgator
Tom, your hero Bill Clinton bombed Serbia for 78 days, killing countless number of civilians with very few US casualties, and Milosevic wasn't any threat to the US, yet you cheered that war on. Your opinion means NOTHING!

Excellent point. I think estimates are about 2000-3000 innocent civilians killed by Bill Clinton in Serbia.

And not only was Milosevic no threat to the US, but the Serbians historically were our friends, sheltering downed US pilots in WWII and protecting them from Nazi capture.

While Milosevic, an ex(?)communist, was no nice guy, he was defending Serbia from an invasion of Muslim terrorists, including Al Qaeda operatives. There was NO genocide.

50 posted on 04/11/2003 8:59:00 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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