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Michigan parents shocked to discover Boy Scout program counselor is homosexual activist
April 11, 2003 | American Family Association of Michigan

Posted on 04/11/2003 8:41:43 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan

Eagle Scout, leader of Michigan pro-family group, warns parents

MIDLAND, Michigan -- A statewide traditional values group Friday said it is dismayed to have to warn parents that they cannot rely on the Boy Scouts of America to shield children in all Scout-sponsored programs from exposure to openly homosexual adult leaders, despite the BSA's well-known position that such adults are not appropriate role models for young people.

The American Family Association of Michigan said a Christian home schooling organization in Midland, Michigan was shocked this month to learn that a youth program sponsored, funded, and promoted by the local Boy Scout council lists a prominent homosexual activist and attorney as the counselor for teens interested in pursuing a career in law.

The Christian Home Educators of Midland's April newsletter unknowingly published information about the Scout-funded "Learning for Life" program provided by the Lake Huron Area Council (BSA), listing the name and phone number of Midland attorney Paul Wright as the contact person for parents interested in further information. Wright is the founder of a homosexual employees group at Dow Chemical Company and is president of the Michigan chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans, a national homosexual activist group.

AFA-Michigan President Gary Glenn, Midland, said that upon learning about Wright's background, the home school group's leadership instructed its newsletter editor to no longer publish any information provided by the Boy Scouts.

"Obviously, parents who believed they could trust the Boy Scouts carte blanche to protect their children feel their trust has been violated," said Glenn, himself an Eagle Scout, former adult Scout leader, and a member of the BSA's Order of the Arrow and National Eagle Scouts Association. Glenn's wife Annette is currently a Cub Scout pack leader after serving three years as a den mother; three of their boys are actively involved in local Scouting programs.

Glenn quoted his wife's reaction to the revelation, referring to local Scout council officials: "They violated the first principle of the Scout law: a Scout is trustworthy."

Glenn said he very reluctantly decided to issue a public warning to parents after discussing the issue privately with local council staff over several weeks and receiving no assurance that Wright or other homosexual activists will not serve as "Learning for Life" counselors in the future.

"For someone who's been involved in Scouting since grade school, the local council staff's doubletalk was astonishing and extremely disappointing," he said. "It's precisely because of how much my family and other families cherish Scouting and its traditional values that we cannot remain silent after local Scout officials refused to assure us that homosexual activists will no longer serve as leaders and role models for a clearly Scout-sponsored program."

According to Glenn, local council officials disavow any responsibility for the "Learning for Life" program, insisting it is entirely separate from traditional Scouting and does not enforce Scouting's ban on homosexual adult leaders; at the same time, officials admit the program is a subsidiary of Scouting, is sponsored and funded by the area Scout council, and is operated out of the local council's offices.

* In a voicemail message received on AFA-Michigan's office phone, a local Scout council staffer first said the program "is not a part of the BSA," then later said it "is a subsidiary corporation of the BSA."

* The local "Learning for Life" program's address and phone number are identical to that of the local Lake Huron Area Council (BSA).

* The Scout council's monthly newsletter clearly identifies "Learning for Life" as part of the BSA's Exploring-Venturing program. The headline banner on the monthly Exploring-Venturing page of the newsletter lists the Learning for Life website address directly under the words "Boy Scouts of America."

* The January-February issue of the local Boy Scout council newsletter features the front page headline: "Welcome our new Learning for Life staff member."

* The agenda for the council's Fall 2003 Lake Huron Council Camporee includes the following event listing: "Midway Adventure: Council displays (i.e. register to be a Scout, Trails End popcorn, Learning for Life, Venturing, Camp Rotary, Paul Bunyon Scout Reservation...Scouting for Food, Philmont, 2005 Jamboree...etc.)"

"Local Scout officials admit that they fund the program, sponsor it, promote it, portray it as a Scout program in their newsletter, and run it out of the Scout office," Glenn said, "all while insisting the program has nothing to do with Scouting, they have no influence over its adult leaders and bear no responsibility for having allowed a prominent homosexual activist to serve as a role model for young people in clear violation of the BSA leadership standards that parents assume apply to all programs affiliated with and funded by Scouting. To claim they have no influence over a program they sponsor and fund is simply not believable."

Glenn also said the local council's comments appear to be contradicted by official policy statements issued by the national BSA office:

* In February 2002, the national office of the Boy Scouts of America issued a news release announcing: "The BSA reaffirmed its view that an avowed homosexual cannot serve as a role model for the traditional moral values espoused in the Scout Oath and Law and that these values cannot be subject to local option choices."

* That news release reported that the BSA's national council had adopted a formal resolution restating the official policy as follows, that "homosexual conduct is inconsistent with the traditional values espoused in the Scout Oath and Law and that an avowed homosexual cannot serve as a role model for the values of the Oath and Law; ...as a national organization whose very reason for existence is to instill and reinforce values in youth, the BSA's values cannot be subject to local option choices, but must be the same in every unit."

* In 1991, the BSA issued the following official position statement specifically stating that the BSA's adult leadership standards do apply to the "Learning for Life" program: "The one major aspect of Learning for Life that remains the same as traditional BSA programs is that adult leadership in Learning for Life must meet the standards of traditional BSA programs, standards which have not changed."

That BSA statement continued: "The (Learning for Life) program is designed as a community outreach effort, to be implemented at the discretion of local councils. It is not a mandatory program for local councils. It is the prerogative of the local council executive board to determine the scope of involvement. Each local council determines its own amount of community outreach, educational support, and budgetary involvement."

Glenn said in a statement sent to Lake Huron Area Council President Arnold Alleming that given the council's apparent autonomy regarding the "Learning for Life" program, local Scout officials should immediately require the local program to honor the adult leadership standards parents expect of all BSA-affiliated programs -- meaning Wright would no longer serve as a counselor for the program -- or else the council should discontinue its funding of the program.

"It's a matter of honoring the trust of Scout parents whose children are involved in Scouting, and who financially support the local Scout council, precisely because of the traditional values they expect Scouting to uphold as a matter of principle across the board," he said. "Hopefully, local Scout officials will act to regain the trust and confidence many parents feel they've violated."

Glenn and AFA-Michigan have long actively supported and defended Scouting programs in the state which have come under fire from homosexual activists precisely because of the BSA policy protecting youngsters from exposure to adults involved in homosexual behavior.

AFA-Michigan in 2000 donated $4,000 to the Gerald R. Ford Scout Council in Grand Rapids to replace funding lost from the Allegan County United Way because of the BSA policy.

Two years ago, the Scouting Legal Defense Fund -- chaired by former Reagan Administration Attorney General Ed Meese and based in San Diego -- praised AFA-Michigan for "doing an outstanding job helping the Scouts in their state. Because we monitor a large volume of news reports and e-mails about what is happening to Scouting around the country, it is clear to us that the Michigan state affiliate of the American Family Association is by far the most active independent group defending Scouting at the state level."

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Addendum

* A website cosponsored by the Midland Chamber of Commerce clearly describes Learning for Life as a BSA program:

"EXPLORING: Exploring is the career exploration program of the Boy Scouts of America available for young men and women age 14 (or who have completed the eighth grade) through age 20...The result is a program of activities that help young adults pursue their special interests and develop career goals. The young adults involved in Exploring will gain practical experience in a career, special interest or skill and engage in a program of activities centered on the six experience areas: leadership, service, social interaction, fitness, the outdoors, and career...For more information, call Lake Huron Area Council Boy Scouts of America at (989) 662-4464 or Fax (989) 695-5593 or check out the "Learning for Life" website at www.learning-for-life.org/exploring/index.html.

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The express portrayal of Learning for Life as a Boy Scout program is not unique to the Lake Huron Area Council:

* The Southwest Michigan Council (BSA) lists Learning for Life, along with Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts, as elements of the local council's Scouting program.

* The website of the Tall Pine Council (BSA) based in Flint lists Learning for Life as one of several programs of the council, instructing parents: "For information about the Learning for Life programs in your area schools, call Tall Pine Council at 810-235-2531."

* The Detroit Area Council (BSA) website's "Learning for Life" calendar refers to the program as follows: "The Spring Camporee is one of the biggest events of the year for the Learning for Life scouts...The Annual Fishing Derby is an event that the Learning for Life scouts look forward to each summer...Scouts from Macomb, Wayne and Oakland County join in on this wonderful event...All Learning for Life scouts are welcome to take part in this event...The Learning for Life Holiday Festival returns to Cobo Hall in downtown Detroit. There have been over 1,000 scouts and volunteers in attendance...The educational aspect of scouting for children with special needs is embedded within the Learning for Life program..."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; scouts
1. Please urge the Lake Huron Area Council (BSA) to no longer allow homosexual activists to serve as counselors and role models for young teens. Contact Scout Executive Dale Holbrook at dholbroo@bsamail.org or 989-695-5593.

2. Also, ask your own local Scout council for assurances that homosexual activists will not serve in leadership positions for any Scout-affiliated program in your area, including the "Learning for Life" program. Find your local Scout council at: www.scouting.org/councils/index.html

1 posted on 04/11/2003 8:41:43 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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2 posted on 04/11/2003 8:42:30 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: AFA-Michigan
The declaration is, "We're queer. We're here. We've come for your kids." Be on the outlook for infiltration anywhere.
3 posted on 04/11/2003 8:55:16 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
Quite ill, to be sure!
4 posted on 04/11/2003 9:01:05 PM PDT by MeekMom (( Please visit http://CNLGLFG.com) (HUGE Ann-Fan!!!) (Missing the Gipper Terribly!))
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To: RLK
ANY reply - confirmation - etc from the BSA ??? I can't believe that they would knowingly have this scum in such a position where Boy Scouts would look to him for advice!!??!!

Or is this simply Michigan falling to the dark side?
5 posted on 04/11/2003 9:01:16 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock
Steplock, I left a voice mail for BSA national spokesman Greg Shields, who did not return my call but passed my phone number on to the local Scout executive Dale Holbrook, who did return my call. Mr. Holbrook confirmed that homosexual activist Paul Wright is a counselor for the local council's "Learning for Life" program, and he insists that the "Learning for Life" program nationally does not abide by traditional Scouting's ban on homosexual adult leaders, which is why Freepers should question their own local Scout council.
6 posted on 04/11/2003 9:06:32 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: RLK
It'd really help if every dad who had a boy in Scouts was also involved in the troop, going on the campouts, etc.
7 posted on 04/11/2003 9:11:48 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox
It'd really help if every dad who had a boy in Scouts was also involved in the troop, going on the campouts, etc.

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There is no doubt that you are right. More direct parental participation would help.

8 posted on 04/11/2003 9:17:54 PM PDT by RLK
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To: AFA-Michigan
Good grief! One more way for the homosexuals to access our kids. No, no, no!
9 posted on 04/11/2003 10:56:19 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: lilylangtree
The Scouts have learned nothing from the RCC in putting homosexual men with pedophilic predilictions into leadership (access to kids alone).
10 posted on 04/11/2003 11:00:40 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: AFA-Michigan
As an adult Scouter with many years experience I am surprised to see this article which smacks of all the types of distortions, half truths, and pannic pedaling we normally see from the liberal left.

To make a very-long story very-short, the Learning for life program is an important in-school program that would not exist if it had the same homosexual-leader ban that traditional Scouting has. Since Learning for Life exists in public schools, there is a simple choice i.e. either have a program that passes anti-discrimination muster with the public schools OR have NO program at all.

Learning for Life is a COMPLETELY SAPARATE organization from Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts (i.e. traditional Scouting).

Career Exploring was moved over to Learning for Life a few years ago when it was clear that Police and Fire Explorers were going to be tossed out of most cities and counties because of similar anti-discrimination laws. Again it was either have a program that passes anti-discrimination muster with the public schools OR have NO program at all.

This is a leagal case the BSA was not going to win.

Am I happy about all this? Hell no! But these are good programs and the alternative would be to eliminate them.

Let's give the BSA a break on this one. They need to focus on what they do best (which is not fighting legal challenges).
11 posted on 04/12/2003 12:35:20 AM PDT by fleur-de-lis
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To: fleur-de-lis
Why should the BSA and US give immorality and sin a break?

It is time to take back our country from the sleazoids!
12 posted on 04/12/2003 10:02:34 AM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: fleur-de-lis
Fleur,

You write: "Learning for Life is a COMPLETELY SAPARATE organization from Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts (i.e. traditional Scouting)."

Yeah, right. Funded by the local BSA council, run out of the local council office, advertised to parents as a Scout program...but "completely separate."

Remember that guy on TV who kept insisting there are no Americans in Baghdad, just before our tanks pulled up right behind him? He is not an appropriate role model for how you should respond to this issue. Quibbling and dancing around the truth are not standards for truth outside of the Clinton White House.

We took the trouble of documenting every statement made in our news release with hyperlinks to the original source documents, including the national BSA statement promising parents that the adult leadership standards of BSA do apply to "Learning for Life". (Since I don't know how to post those hyperlinks, I'm happy to send you or anyone else by e-mail our original news release with the documentation. Make request to afam@chartermi.net )

Then you can compare your nonspecific allegations of "distortions" and "half truths" to the truth of the original documentation.

The bottom line is that a Christian homeschool group trusted the good name of the Scouts and unknowingly encouraged its members to involve their children in an obviously NOT SEPARATE Scout-sponsored program with a homosexual activist as counselor and role model.

This is not rocket science. Given the choice between a Scout program that offers a homosexual activist as the counselor and role model for kids 14-18, and no program at all, I choose no program at all -- especially regarding my own local council's funds.

ANY group can expose kids to homosexual activists. The Scouts are supposed to be a group we can trust not to do so.
13 posted on 04/12/2003 10:03:40 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: fleur-de-lis
Learning for life program is an important in-school program that would not exist if it had the same homosexual-leader ban that traditional Scouting has.

Since Learning for Life exists in public schools, there is a simple choice i.e. either have a program that passes anti-discrimination muster with the public schools OR have NO program at all.


Thank you for the clarification.

14 posted on 04/12/2003 10:12:09 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: AFA-Michigan
Haqte to disappoint you on this but if you go to http://www.scouting.org at the National Level to look for the "Learning for Life" program in scouting or for where I live in AZ to http://www.catalinacouncil.org you can not find such a program. You may want to try digging a little deeper; something just does not sound right.
15 posted on 04/22/2003 12:03:40 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Sandrat,

It's a shell game.

Learning for Life's national office is located at 1325 West Walnut Hill Lane, P.O. Box 152079, Irving, Texas 75015-2079, telephone 972-580-2433. http://www.learning-for-life.org

Boy Scouts of America national HQ is 1329 West Walnut Hill Lane, Irving, TX 75038-3027. Phone:(972)580-2204.

And their PO box -- Box 152079 -- the exact same one as Learning for Life. (bottom of home page at http://www.scouting.org

Our local council's website newsletter equates BSA with Learning for Life (see masthead at http://www.lhacbsa.org/news/Mar2003B/page11.html )

Since it's an optional program, your local council may indeed not have Learning for Life. See BSA memo at http://www.bsa-discrimination.org/BSA_Funding/UnitedWay-Top/UW-SF-Top/UW-SF-Media/UW-SF-Media.html

The policy we're assured of in this decade-old memo has, according to my local council staff, been changed, apparently to allow the Scouts to continue to receive money from United Way in cities where UW refuses to fund mainstream Scouting because of the ban on homosexual Scoutmasters. In other words, we'll agree to slide around our ban if you agree to keep funding us. Sadly, follow the money.
16 posted on 04/22/2003 9:12:19 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan
I can't answer for any decade-old memos on the LFL program. But I do know that these days, the Scouting program can be broadly divided up into two sections: traditional, and Learning for Life.

The traditional programs are Cub Scouting (8 to ~10.5, male only), Boy Scouting (~10.5 or 11 through 17, male only) and Venturing (~14 to 20, co-ed). These programs have the membership and leadership standards regarding sexual orientation and religious belief that the BSA has been (and still is) busy defending in various legal venues.

Learning for Life is a program that is meant to be used in schools to help teach children to make ethical choices in life. The program does not teach that the basis for making ethical choices must necessarily be based on religious belief. I do not know what it teaches regarding sexual orientation or sexual activity.

LFL also includes Exploring. Exploring used to be the "older Scout" program for the BSA, but back in the late '90's said program was split up into a more "High Adventure" program, which was denoted "Venturing" and kept the traditional aspects, and a career oriented program (especially careers like EMT's or law enforcement), which was moved into the Learning for Life section. This was after a lawsuit in Chicago, where the complainants had a problem with City of Chicago firehouses and police precincts sponsoring Explorer Posts that, at the time, discriminated against homosexuals and atheists. The units broke off and ended up sponsored by the FOP and groups at the firehouses. But, to avoid future suits the change in the Exploring program was made.

So that's the deal. Understand that in the general course of the LFL program, your child is only going to be exposed to the same people he already is exposed to; the teachers in his school. The program is generally administered using grade-oriented materials provided by the BSA, and is administered by the personnel already in the school. What you're describing in the case of this man is likely someone who might advise people getting involved in a legal services oriented Explorer Post outside standard LFL program in the schools.

The BSA has about 6.1 million people involved as Scouts, Scouters (adult volunteers), and LFL members. LFL is around 1.8 million of that group. It is growing much faster than the traditional program. In the traditional program, Venturing is the fastest growing division.

In the case of the misinformation that you may have gotten about LFL from local Council staff, all I can say is that sounds like a training problem. Some councils do a lot of LFL (some of the larger urban councils are approaching having more LFL members than traditional members) and the people in the office would all be up to speed on what the program's all about. Some councils do very little and the staff there might be less well-informed. National would be quite upset to learn that you were given bad info by a local Council and would be sure to contact that Council and get that changed if they were informed of the problem.
17 posted on 04/28/2003 7:16:11 AM PDT by RonF
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To: AFA-Michigan
I wanted to go to the source of the story you quote from here, but you've provided no link. Can you do so?
18 posted on 04/28/2003 12:47:55 PM PDT by RonF
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To: AFA-Michigan
Since I don't know how to post those hyperlinks, I'm happy to send you or anyone else by e-mail our original news release with the documentation.

To put a link in the text of a message, enter it like this:

< a href=http://www.intel.com > Some text you want to be the link < /a >

Except don't have spaces between the angle brackets and their contents. I put those spaces in so that this text would actually appear. If I hadn't, "Some text you want to be the link" would show as a highlighted link; in this example, it would link you to Intel's home page.

But in any case, when you post, FR asks you to enter a valid web site in one of the fields they use to create the posting. If you don't, it's been my experience that it doesn't create the posting. How'd you get around that?

19 posted on 04/28/2003 12:54:17 PM PDT by RonF
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To: fleur-de-lis
Under new federal law, a public school system faces loss of federal funding if it discriminates in any way against the Scouts because of the ban on homosexual adult leaders. So it is no longer necessary for Scouting to have a separate public school "subsidiary" that does allow homosexual adult leaders.
20 posted on 05/12/2003 5:36:09 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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