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RUSSIA SPIED ON BLAIR FOR SADDAM...
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Posted on 04/12/2003 4:12:40 PM PDT by Rocko

RUSSIA SPIED ON BLAIR FOR SADDAM... // Top secret documents obtained by the Sunday Telegraph in Baghdad show that Russia provided Saddam Hussein's regime with wide-ranging assistance in the months leading up to the war, including intelligence on private conversations between Tony Blair and other Western leaders... MORE...


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1 posted on 04/12/2003 4:12:40 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Rocko

Revealed: Russia spied on Blair for Saddam
By David Harrison
(Filed: 13/04/2003)

Top secret documents obtained by The Telegraph in Baghdad show that Russia provided Saddam Hussein's regime with wide-ranging assistance in the months leading up to the war, including intelligence on private conversations between Tony Blair and other Western leaders.

Moscow also provided Saddam with lists of assassins available for "hits" in the West and details of arms deals to neighbouring countries. The two countries also signed agreements to share intelligence, help each other to "obtain" visas for agents to go to other countries and to exchange information on the activities of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qa'eda leader.

The documents detailing the extent of the links between Russia and Saddam were obtained from the heavily bombed headquarters of the Iraqi intelligence service in Baghdad yesterday.

The sprawling complex, which for years struck fear into Iraqis, has been the target of looters and ordinary Iraqis searching for information about relatives who disappeared during Saddam's rule.

The documents, in Arabic, are mostly intelligence reports from anonymous agents and from the Iraqi embassy in Moscow. Tony Blair is referred to in a report dated March 5, 2002 and marked: "Subject - SECRET." In the letter, an Iraqi intelligence official explains that a Russian colleague had passed him details of a private conversation between Mr Blair and Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, at a meeting in Rome. The two had met for an annual summit on February 15, 2002, in Rome.

The document says that Mr Blair "referred to the negative things decided by the United States over Baghdad". It adds that Mr Blair refused to engage in any military action in Iraq at that time because British forces were still in Afghanistan and that nothing could be done until after the new Kabul government had been set up.

It is not known how the Russians obtained such potentially sensitive information, but the revelation that Moscow passed it on to Baghdad is likely to have a devastating effect on relations between Britain and Russia and come as a personal blow to Mr Blair. The Prime Minister declared a "new era" in relations with President Putin when they met in Moscow in October 2001 in the aftermath of the World Trade Center attacks.

In spite of warnings by the British intelligence and security services of increasing Russian espionage in the West, Mr Blair fostered closer relations with Mr Putin, visiting his family dacha near Moscow, supporting the Russians in their war in Chechnya, and arranging for the Russian president to have tea with the Queen.

Mr Blair was surprised and dismayed when Mr Putin joined France in threatening to veto the American and British resolution on Iraq in the UN, but continued to differentiate between President Putin and President Jacques Chirac.

The Prime Minister refused to join the French, German and Russian leaders in their summit on Iraq this weekend, but still regarded Mr Putin as an ally in global politics.

The list of assassins is referred to in a paper dated November 27, 2000. In it, an agent signing himself "SAB" says that the Russians have passed him a detailed list of killers. The letter does not describe any assignments that the assassins might be given but it indicates just how much Moscow was prepared to share with Baghdad. Another document, dated March 12, 2002, appears to confirm that Saddam had developed, or was developing nuclear weapons. The Russians warned Baghdad that if it refused to comply with the United Nations then that would give the United States "a cause to destroy any nuclear weapons".

A letter from the Iraqi embassy in Moscow shows that Russia kept Iraq informed about its arms deals with other countries in the Middle East. Correspondence, dated January 27, 2000, informed Baghdad that in 1999 Syria bought rockets from Russia in two separate batches valued at $65 million (£41 million) and $73 million (£46 million). It also says that Egypt bought surface-to-air missiles from Russia and that Kuwait - Saddam's old enemy - wanted to buy Russian arms to the value of $1 billion. The Russians also informed Iraq that China had bought military aircraft from Russia and Israel at the end of 1999.

Moscow also passed on information of Russians who could help Iraqi politicians obtain visas to go to many Western countries.

The name of Osama bin Laden appears in a number of Russian reports. Several give details of his support for the rebels in Chechnya. They say bin Laden had built two training camps in Afghanistan, near the Iranian border, to train mujahideen fighters for Russia's rebel republic. The camps could each hold 300 fighters, who were all funded by bin Laden.

Training materials found at the complex give insight into the Iraqi intelligence gathering methods. One certificate shows that a Rashid Jassim had passed an advance course in lock-picking.

Other papers found at the headquarters include reports on the succession in Saudi Arabia and on US-Yemen relations.

The intimate relationship between Baghdad and Moscow is further illustrated by copies of Christmas cards - in the Christian tradition - sent by Taher Jalil Habosh, the head of the Iraqi intelligence service, to his Kremlin counterpart.

Russia has been a key ally of Baghdad since the 1970s and was one of Saddam's main arms suppliers. The Iraqis are understood to owe Moscow more than £8 billion for arms shipments. Russian oil companies had longed to forge links with Saddam Hussein to help develop Iraq's vast oil reserves.

2 posted on 04/12/2003 4:14:47 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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3 posted on 04/12/2003 4:14:55 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Rocko
To Mother Russia:

YOU UTTER GOBSHITE!

Ivan

4 posted on 04/12/2003 4:15:59 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Rocko
Putin made a very unwise choice by aligning himself with Iraq, France and Germany, instead of the US.

And here I thought he was smart and pragmatic, who could tell that the US can help Russia join the west, and start on the road to capitalism and prosperity.

5 posted on 04/12/2003 4:17:33 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MadIvan
What you said.
6 posted on 04/12/2003 4:17:34 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Rocko; Dog Gone; MadIvan
Everything is coming into focus. See this about Russian missles in Iraq: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/891873/posts
7 posted on 04/12/2003 4:18:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: MadIvan
The Cold War is still on - The Allies vs. The E.U.S.S.R.
8 posted on 04/12/2003 4:18:48 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: Rocko
If true, this is nothing less than an act of war.
9 posted on 04/12/2003 4:19:31 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: MadIvan
So I guess Tony's going to have to quit talking to Clintons.
10 posted on 04/12/2003 4:20:44 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Rocko
Just wait until they connect 9-11 with Russia, France or Germany...

11 posted on 04/12/2003 4:21:19 PM PDT by antaresequity (...)
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To: MadIvan
I don't know how I could improve on what you said.
12 posted on 04/12/2003 4:22:43 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: ambrose
Spying had better not be an act of war, or most nations, including us, would be at war with just about everyone.
13 posted on 04/12/2003 4:22:57 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Rocko
RasPutin is a fraud. He's still a Red at heart.
14 posted on 04/12/2003 4:23:30 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((The only good Red, is a dead Red)))
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To: MadIvan
The rest of the world is terrified now. Everybody who we thought were our friends, turned out to be rat bastards.

Ollie North last night, basically said that every major player except for the US and UK were the points of origin for all the munitions in Iraq. Jordan, Turkey, France, Russia, China, Germany... We knew about the axis of weasels, and Russia, I am dissapointed in Turkey and Jordan though. Turkey especially. Turkey's history with the Armenians should be brought into the forefront of everybody's minds.

Were Turkish forces helping Saddam in exchange for help in the "kurdish problem?"

15 posted on 04/12/2003 4:23:42 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Dog Gone
"Moscow also provided Saddam with lists of assassins available for "hits" in the West and details of arms deals to neighbouring countries. The two countries also signed agreements to share intelligence, help each other to "obtain" visas for agents to go to other countries and to exchange information on the activities of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qa'eda leader."

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This is a clear support of Terrorism by Russia. Now that Iraq is no longer on the Axis of Evil list, we can add Russia.

16 posted on 04/12/2003 4:23:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Dog Gone; Rocko; Howlin
I've always thought that when the dust settled, we'd start to find things like this--apparently, it's happening sooner. I'm not at all surprised that Russia isn't the great friend she's pretended to be--I was always waiting for the other shoe to drop. Looks like it just did.
17 posted on 04/12/2003 4:23:55 PM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: Dog Gone
This is beyond unbelievable. At least the Soviets had pride. Today's Russians are just craven cowards.
18 posted on 04/12/2003 4:24:22 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Dog Gone
Mega Bump!
19 posted on 04/12/2003 4:24:27 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: FairOpinion
I believe when the story is fully told we will see Russia not an aligner but leader in putting a stop to freeing the people of Iraq, hiding behind France and Germany and the Clintons skirts.
20 posted on 04/12/2003 4:24:48 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Dog Gone; MadIvan; Rocko
Hey, got any of that peace dividend left?

Man, how can western civilization be so naive?

I can see a young nation like the USA getting duped, but the Europeans also bought the USSR collapse thing hook, line, and sinker!

Damn! People never fail to believe what they want to, do they? Good thing there are those EEEEVIL Muslims (LOL!) out there to fill the void..

Laugh my ass off (in a black humor kind of way..)
21 posted on 04/12/2003 4:24:52 PM PDT by a_Turk (Lookout, lookout, the candy man..)
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To: FairOpinion
Anybody ready for a new Cold War? Those bastards can freeze. Pooty-Poot can kiss my american ass if he thinks we are going to help him get the freed Iraqis to pay off weapons systems that Saddam ordered.
22 posted on 04/12/2003 4:25:11 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Dog Gone
The spying itself isn't the act of war... it was handing the info over to Iraq.
23 posted on 04/12/2003 4:25:26 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: MizSterious
Russia will pay the price for this. It will be economic, and it will also be political. Putin had his chance to join us, and he turned it down.
24 posted on 04/12/2003 4:26:46 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: FairOpinion
If that weapons grade plutonium story turns out to be the real deal, we'll probably start to ask where they got it. My first guess is Russia, although I wouldn't put it past North Korea and China, either.
25 posted on 04/12/2003 4:27:03 PM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: ambrose
This does not surprise me one bit....They are going to pay dearly for this...
26 posted on 04/12/2003 4:27:40 PM PDT by ptomsiaresool
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To: dogbyte12
Those little bastards were trying to get Allied troops killed. Were I Blair, I'd have a meeting with Putin that involved a large club, brass knuckles and a loaded revolver.

That rat bastard tried to undermine the security and military of the United Kingdom (and the United States).

Well one thing is for certain - we should tell Putin to take Iraq's supposed debts to his country and shove them up his arse. Pump oil like mad and see his country's main source of revenue collapse. Their insolence and treachery has gone far enough.

Ivan

27 posted on 04/12/2003 4:27:44 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Dog Gone
Another document, dated March 12, 2002, appears to confirm that Saddam had developed, or was developing nuclear weapons. The Russians warned Baghdad that if it refused to comply with the United Nations then that would give the United States "a cause to destroy any nuclear weapons".

Good Lord! If this is authenticated then war in Iraq is just the beginning....

28 posted on 04/12/2003 4:27:52 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: a_Turk
Laugh all you want. Turkey is not exactly high on our list of "good friends" either.
29 posted on 04/12/2003 4:27:57 PM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: Dog Gone
Now, why again are we still investing in Russia? Do we want them to be strong again?

Our money is better spent elsewhere.

30 posted on 04/12/2003 4:27:57 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: ambrose
It was apparently done well before hostilities began.
31 posted on 04/12/2003 4:28:15 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MizSterious
It just goes to show you how many countries were smiling at us, while stabbing us in the back.

But now it is all coming to light and is clearly revealed who are with us and who are against us.
32 posted on 04/12/2003 4:28:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MadIvan
YOU UTTER GOBSHITE!

Give em hell, Ivan. LOL

33 posted on 04/12/2003 4:29:06 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: Rocko
well well well
34 posted on 04/12/2003 4:29:06 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: dogbyte12
I can see it now...a new cold war against Russia, France, Syria, North Korea, and Iran.

We can make all those idiots allies by freezing them out and soon all five will wish they had an measly economy as poor as North Korea's is today.

35 posted on 04/12/2003 4:29:36 PM PDT by for-q-clinton ((If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed))
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To: Dog Gone
Putin might have forgotten that the U.S. and the U.K. have spies, too, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if somewhere down the line, Putin finds himself out of luck and out of office. Payback can be a *itch.
36 posted on 04/12/2003 4:31:06 PM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: Dog Gone; Miss Marple; MadIvan
Ping!
37 posted on 04/12/2003 4:31:51 PM PDT by Dog
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To: InvisibleChurch
What we need to do now is add the UK, Poland, Spain, Czech republic, Italy, Australia etc... to NAFTA. Set up a free trade block that overwhelms the European Union.

Do not let the UN Bastards into Iraq. Pump oil like mad in Iraq... cut off the Saudis, the Russians, from our oil imports. Anything we can't produce,we buy from Iraq at a good fair price. No gouging them. Fair market value.

Tell the rest of them again... you are either with us or against us. Tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine if they aren't. Add names to the Axis of Evil...

Have a beer. Call it a day.

38 posted on 04/12/2003 4:32:06 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: FairOpinion
Yes, it's all coming to light, and more is yet to come, I'm sure. I've always thought that one of the main reasons the Axis of Weasels stood so staunchly against us was that this kind of information would inevitably come out if we went into Iraq.
39 posted on 04/12/2003 4:32:38 PM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: a_Turk
"Damn! People never fail to believe what they want to, do they? Good thing there are those EEEEVIL Muslims (LOL!) out there to fill the void.. "

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You may well have hit the nail right on the head, that Russia was using other dupes, including the militant Muslims, fueling the fire and supporting them in secret to attack us.

This is a huge revelation and with the existence of the actual papers, it is undeniable.

This is just so stupid of Russia, do they still want a nuclear war?!
40 posted on 04/12/2003 4:33:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: a_Turk
There is a saying "he who laughs last, laughs longest."

So enjoy your "black humor" we Americans have not begun to laugh.

Some of us in America never bought the story that a leopard can change his spots, and some of us know, never take your eyes off a mad bear.

Americans bigger problem is that too many in elected office have the same mindset as the mad bear.
41 posted on 04/12/2003 4:34:14 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: for-q-clinton
We can get the "little guys", knocking out the support and the "front organizations" out from under Russia.
42 posted on 04/12/2003 4:34:41 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MadIvan
If this is true, Putin has shown himself far more duplicitous than I could have imagined. He has made a huge error and effectively stopped what could have been a promising alliance with the west.

However, I have a couple of questions. How did these documents fall into the hands of The Telegraph? Are they authentic, or forgeries?

With so much confusion going on in Baghdad right now, it seems odd that something like this would have been found and taken to a western journalist. It is very mysterious.

43 posted on 04/12/2003 4:35:08 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: dogbyte12
As desperate as the Democrates are for something to stick.
It will only be a matter of time before they start bashing GWB for his " I looked into his eyes" stameent.
44 posted on 04/12/2003 4:35:33 PM PDT by BlackBirdII
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To: FairOpinion
>> do they still want a nuclear war?!

It's much more innocent than that. They want money and power..
45 posted on 04/12/2003 4:35:36 PM PDT by a_Turk (Lookout, lookout, the candy man..)
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To: Rocko
And BOEING is sending engineering work to Russia. Seems that some of our leaders don't know the difference between friends and business partners.

IMHO you cannot trust the Russians and we should not be peppering their economy with our aerospace contracts.

46 posted on 04/12/2003 4:35:37 PM PDT by chit*chat
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To: Just mythoughts
If it weren't for "black humor," then this life would be fricking unbearable.
47 posted on 04/12/2003 4:36:52 PM PDT by a_Turk (Lookout, lookout, the candy man..)
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To: Dog Gone
And to think of all the billions of dollars we spent keeping the Russian Space Program afloat. Well the Russians can now ESAD as far as I'm concerned.
48 posted on 04/12/2003 4:37:00 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Rocko
I just don't believe any of this. Nothing will come of it. It's just too too....if you know what I mean. Things like this don't shake out that fast or that easily.
49 posted on 04/12/2003 4:37:04 PM PDT by Theresa (on)
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