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An interesting analysis of the terrible behavior of continental Western Europe.
1 posted on 04/13/2003 6:59:15 AM PDT by jalisco555
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2 posted on 04/13/2003 7:01:41 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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Great article! I surmised this myself about a year ago but he puts it more elegantly than I ever could. I've just been saying that American protestantism and Orthodox Jews are the biggest obstacles to the spread of Islam and Marxism, and that is why they hate us.

Here's hoping that a relative handful of capitalists can defeat a world full of collectivist barbarian hoardes.

3 posted on 04/13/2003 7:19:39 AM PDT by Anamensis (New axis of evil: Syria, Iran, Hollywood)
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Thanks for posting this very interesting and well written analysis. Although I cannot yet formulate my thoughts into words, I have always smelled anti-Semitism at the root of all this. After anti-Semitism follows Anti-Christianity. I think the Jews do not acknowledge this, and it has not even occurred to Christians. Christianity swept through Europe and left, leaving only a remnant, its great cathedrals used for tour groups and state funerals. While Judaism and Christianity reigned together,( BOTH ignoring the FACT that Jesus was a Jew), science, art, music, inventions, literacy and literature exploded. (We create because we are created in the image of the Creator.) Lastly, why anti-Semitism worldwide? Because God chose the Jews. Only because He felt like it, not because of them. If he had chosen the Apaches and history had proceeded the same way, we would be in the same fix with the world loathing aimed at the Apaches.
4 posted on 04/13/2003 7:53:06 AM PDT by linton59
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Thanks for posting this very interesting and well written analysis. Although I cannot yet formulate my thoughts into words, I have always smelled anti-Semitism at the root of all this. After anti-Semitism follows Anti-Christianity. I think the Jews do not acknowledge this, and it has not even occurred to Christians. Christianity swept through Europe and left, leaving only a remnant, its great cathedrals used for tour groups and state funerals. While Judaism and Christianity reigned together,( BOTH ignoring the FACT that Jesus was a Jew), science, art, music, inventions, literacy and literature exploded. (We create because we are created in the image of the Creator.) Lastly, why anti-Semitism worldwide? Because God chose the Jews. Only because He felt like it, not because of them. If he had chosen the Apaches and history had proceeded the same way, we would be in the same fix with the world loathing aimed at the Apaches.
6 posted on 04/13/2003 7:53:31 AM PDT by linton59
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" That culture committed suicide in the '30s. Perhaps its successor is not the revival of that culture, but rather its zombie. "

Interesting -- very interesting. When I hear that the largest religion in France and Great Britian is Islam it is clear that "ZOMBIE" is the best description of European culture today. I've heard that Denmark in 20 years will have an Islamic majority based on white birth rates compared to mid eastern immigrants birth rates.

The "Old Europe" is rotting from within without a way to defend itself from its self inflicted decay.
10 posted on 04/13/2003 8:21:43 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Maybe this "Army Of One" is a good thing - You Gotta Admire the 3rd Infantry Accomplishments)
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Anglosphere: Why do they hate us? (Interesting analysis)

Who cares?
Let Old Europe stew in its own putrefaction and fade away.

If any of them try to swim to civization, we can hire some Iraqis to shoot them in the water; they're really good at that.

13 posted on 04/13/2003 8:43:54 AM PDT by Publius6961 (p>)
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Another explanation might be that they are either Frenchmen or those who follow French intellectual fashions.

The French have certainly been our most persistant enemy; having viewed us with a hateful eye for close to 1000 years. I think the French are fully capable of hating both Jews and English. Ask one.

I'm only half joking.
16 posted on 04/13/2003 8:50:34 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Help me decide: Is the Left morally corrupt and intellectually bankrupt, or vice versa?)
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It may be coincidence, but these new generations are the ones who grew up without the experience of studying, working and socializing with substantial numbers of Jews...so diversity is essential to the flourishing of society.
22 posted on 04/13/2003 9:17:29 AM PDT by RWG
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This might suggest that both fascism and communism emerged on the European continent as a search for the lost security (at the expense of individual independence) of the extended family under the patriarchal rule of the paterfamilias in the traditional Continental society shattered by the Industrial Revolution...this is the same dynamic that social observers use to explain the formation and strength of gangs. The loss of even the nuclear family shattered by the welfare state led to the emergence of gangs.
24 posted on 04/13/2003 9:20:52 AM PDT by RWG
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It is no coincidence that anti-Semitism has risen in direct proportion to Europe’s slow takeover by Islam. Canada has succumbed to its influence, hence their direct opposition to the war in Iraq.
The “religion of peace” can never slake its thirst for infidel blood.
25 posted on 04/13/2003 9:29:02 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Mixing Islam with freedom results in serious side effects. Consult your Imam.)
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Americans are "rejects/refugees" from all other countries. It should be of little surprise the rest of the world is intolerant of us, as that is why we are all here in the USA
27 posted on 04/13/2003 9:31:37 AM PDT by mo
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Recipe for Arab Advancement
-------------------------------
Mix together liberal amounts of tribalism, Pan-Arabism, Islamism, Socialism, and fascism.
Stir well and serve seething hot ... MMmmmmmmmm ... good.
29 posted on 04/13/2003 9:51:24 AM PDT by polemikos
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individualism, free markets, and technological and social progress.

Russia said they would not countenance the
exporting of capitalist democratic revolutions.
With the possible exception of social progress,
which is an offshoot of individualism, free markets,
and technolgy, rather than a cogenerator, I think
Russia unknowingly describes it pretty well.

Old Europe sees social progress as ends being used
to dictate the means.  Their overregulation, extreme
taxation, and moribund economies show the result.

Odd man out here is Canada, whose French cancer
pulls them into Old Europe.  The Dominion finds
herself schizoid and stressed.  Her future lies in
dismemberment.
53 posted on 04/13/2003 12:34:10 PM PDT by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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I'm really tired of all of the overcomplication and philosophizing over this very simple issue.

Subtract Jews, Marxism, etc. etc. from the equation and the rest of the world would still hate us, because they're jealous of us, and resent our power. The intellectual elites of the world just don't want to believe that, is the problem. To admit that is to admit that there is NO SOLUTION to the problem, other than giving up our wealth and power allowing America to be kicked around like a stray dog until the rest of the world is satisfied that we're *incapable* of forcing our will on anyone else.

And in case you haven't noticed, the latter is *exactly* the objective of the Left both in this country and abroad. That is *why* they want to destroy this country as a global power. The Left in this country (as elsewhere) is largely composed of losers and misfits, who want to see what they view as the "power structure" in this country brought down, as a result of their own petty jealousies and vindictiveness, and the rest of the world -to whose equally petty jealousies the Left in other countries give voice - is of the same infantile, self-centered nature.

As I've said over and over, America has earned its stature in the world by expending blood and treasure cleaning up the messes that the degenerate and corrupt regimes and civilizations of the rest of the world create for themselves, and we now possess the dominant global Empire as a result. From a historical perspective, this is going to produce eternal jealousy and hatred on the part of small-minded nations and individuals who will occasionally have to be whacked like the infants they are, and we may as well get used to the idea.

And most of them, as recent events have demonstrated, will end up thanking us for it...

56 posted on 04/13/2003 2:43:13 PM PDT by fire_eye
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An intersting article, thanks for posting it.

I do take issue w/ the premise that the "anglosphere" is more dynamic primarily through the actions of its jewish constituency. Certainly Jews have contribured greatly to the anglo culture, but then so has every other race. Indeed, it is the ability of the anglo world to embrace ideas and people from all over that has made it so strong.

For example, while the french were guarding their language against polluting foreign words English was incorporating words, expressions, and ideas from all comers. For this reason English is the lingua franca (irony intended) of the world. Likewise while the germans were masturbating about pan-germanic greatness and the purity of their blood, the anglos were comingling culture and blood indiscriminately.

Therefore, it is the old european xenophobia that has lead, as it always must, to their current stagnation. And hence their feeling of impotence from which hatred, envy and malice flow.

BTW, to assert that the Jews have been a bulwark against the forces of Marxism is absurd.

75 posted on 04/14/2003 5:40:37 AM PDT by Pietro
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read later bump
78 posted on 04/14/2003 7:20:29 AM PDT by chasio649
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BTTT
83 posted on 04/14/2003 6:51:53 PM PDT by Fiddlstix
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My personal theory of why we're hated in Europe is post revolution envy. Just thinking back to European history, most of their revolutions involved bloodshed after those wars. Some even killed more people in retribution after the revolution than they did during the fighting. At the end of our revolution and Civil War, the rebuilding period was (mostly) bloodless. They hate us for that. Good.
84 posted on 04/14/2003 7:03:05 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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