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April 14 1865 President Abraham Lincoln shot in Ford's Theatre by John Wilkes Booth
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Posted on 04/14/2003 7:39:53 AM PDT by Valin

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To: Non-Sequitur
What do you expect? The whole of the south was run by back stabbing democrats at the time.
21 posted on 04/14/2003 7:53:24 AM PDT by crz
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To: Grand Old Partisan
I've noticed that nice little fact too. :)
22 posted on 04/14/2003 7:53:27 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: TedsGarage
"If it weren't for him, America would be two weak nations, instead of one strong nation."

Well, I can see how you would feel that way about a North-only USA, but the CSA would have become a strong nation, just as it props up the North today.
23 posted on 04/14/2003 7:53:41 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: AppyPappy
"The same people he wanted to ship to Latin America"

snicker, snort
24 posted on 04/14/2003 7:54:16 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
I really love those two quotes by Reagan. They hit the point home exactly.
25 posted on 04/14/2003 7:54:32 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: crz
Said Oliver Morton in 1866: "The Democratic party may be described as a common sewer and loathsome receptacle into which is emptied every element of treason, North and South, every element of inhumanity and barbarism which has dishonored the age."

In contrast, the southern blacks and the Billy Yanks in the hills -- the hillbillies -- were loyal to the U.S. Government and so voted Republican as soon as they could.
26 posted on 04/14/2003 7:55:25 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: crz
Sad. Massachusetts voted for Lincoln in a cascade.

Leave to a Democratic actor to harm the country.
27 posted on 04/14/2003 7:55:38 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: AppyPappy
The same people he wanted to ship to Latin America

President Lincoln is amply on the record well before the war as saying that the Declaration of Independence applied to all men. This would preclude forcing anyone out of the country and he -never- suggested that anyone be forced to leave. Once blacks were enlisted to fight under Old Glory he began to work for equal rights for them.

He certainly did seek colonization as a better alternative to more bloodshed. Is that what you find objectionable? You shoot off your mouth parroting the hate mongers before you think for yourself. Don't do that.

Walt

28 posted on 04/14/2003 7:56:00 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Mr. Morton was right then, and he is right today.
29 posted on 04/14/2003 7:56:18 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: WhiskeyPapa
In the 1863 election, he publically rebuked northern copperheads, aka. Democrats, who publically declared that African-Americans were not worth fighting to free since they were unwilling to die themselves.

Lincoln's principled position was a great success, and Republicans swept Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York.
30 posted on 04/14/2003 7:58:05 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Blah blah blah. Lincoln wanted to ship the blacks to Latin America. What a GREAT guy. He and David Duke would have a lot to agree upon.
31 posted on 04/14/2003 7:58:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Valin; Derville; shuckmaster; sola gracia; Dawntreader; greenthumb; JoeGar; Intimidator; ThJ1800; ..
"Next to the destruction of the Confederacy, the death of Abraham Lincoln was the darkest day the South has ever known." -- Jefferson Davis

While I loathe Lincoln's destructive policies, I am of the firm belief that had he lived, "Reconstruction" would not have been as devastating to the South or the nation as a whole.

32 posted on 04/14/2003 7:58:33 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: republicanwizard
During the Civi War, Oliver Morton, as Governor of Indiana, kept the Democrats from withdrawing the state milita from the Union Army.
33 posted on 04/14/2003 7:58:34 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Centurion2000
Hey .. thanks for the reminder. I'll have to go have a beer for John Wilkes Booth Appreciation day.

Lincoln was Lenin 50 years early ... and a Marxist as well.

Hey, this is no time to get stuck in a cul-de-sac! LOL.

All of the action is on the boulevard.

34 posted on 04/14/2003 7:58:54 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Rained out! We must find who is responsible for this!.)
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To: Flurry
You're absolutly right. Instead of joining the confederate army and fighting for his cause he chose to remain in the north (living very well thank you very much) Then when it was over he chose to make a completely useless statement by murdering the one man who could have saved the south from reconstruction.

John Wilkes Booth, cowardly, sniveling little twerp!
35 posted on 04/14/2003 7:59:19 AM PDT by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: republicanwizard
I love Sandburg's words about the death of Lincoln.

Great stuff.

"At home and abroad judgments came oftener that America had at last a President who was All-American. He embodied his country in that he had no precedents to guide his footsteps; he was not one more individual of a continuing tradition, with the dominant lines of the mold already cast for him by Chief Magistrates who had gone before. Webster, Calhoun, and Clay conformed to a classicism of the school of the English gentleman, as did perhaps all the Presidents between Washington and Lincoln, save only Andrew Jackson.

The inventive Yankee, the Western frontiersman and pioneer, the Kentuckian of laughter and dreams, had found blend in one man who was the national head. In the "dreamy vastness" noted by the London Spectator, in the pith of the folk words "The thoughts of the man are too big for his mouth," was the feel of something vague that ran deep in American hearts, that hovered close to a vision for which men would fight, struggle, and die, a grand though blurred chance that Lincoln might be leading them toward something greater than they could have believed might come true.

Also around Lincoln gathered some of the hope that a democracy can choose a man, set him up high with power and honor, and the very act does something to the man himself, raises up new gifts, modulations, controls, outlooks, wisdoms, inside the man, so that he is something else again than he was before they sifted him out and anointed him to take an oath and solemnly sign himself for the hard and terrible, eye-filling and center-staged, role of Head of the Nation.

To be alive for the work he must carry in his breast Cape Cod, the Shenandoah, the Mississippi, the Gulf, the Rocky Mountains, the Sacramento, the Great Plains, the Great Lakes, their dialects and shibboleths. He must be instinct with the regions of corn, textile mills, cotton, tobacco, gold, coal, zinc, iron.

He would be written as a Father of his People if his record ran well, one whose heart beat with understanding of the many who came to the Executive Mansion, wore its thresholds, nicked the banisters, smoothed the doorknobs, and made vocal their wants and offerings.

In no one of the thirty-one rooms of the White House was Lincoln at home.

Back and forth in this house strode phantoms—red platoons of boys vanished into the war—thin white-spoken ghosts of women who would never again hold those boys in their arms—they made a soft moaning the imagination could hear in the dark night and the gray dawn.

To think incessantly of blood and steel, steel and blood, the argument without end by the mouths of brass cannon, of a mystic cause carried aloft and sung on dripping and crimson bayonet points—to think so and thus across nights and months folding up into years, was a wearing and a grinding that brought questions. What is this teaching and who learns from it and where does it lead? "If we could first know where we are and whither we are tending, we could better judge what to do and how to do it."

Beyond the black smoke lay what salvations and jubilees? Death was in the air. So was birth. What was dying no man was knowing. What was being born no man could say.

The dew came on the White House lawn and the moonlight spread lace of white films in the night and the syringa and the bridal wreath blossomed and the birds fluttered in the bushes and nested in the sycamore and the veery thrush fluted with never a weariness. The war drums rolled and the telegraph clicked off mortality lists, now a thousand, now ten thousand in a day. Yet there were moments when the processes of men seemed to be only an evil dream and justice lay in deeper transitions than those wrought by men dedicated to kill or be killed."

--Abraham Lincoln, The War Years, Vol. II, pp.331-333, by Carl Sandburg

36 posted on 04/14/2003 8:02:03 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: Alouette
Great minds think alike! :-)
37 posted on 04/14/2003 8:02:34 AM PDT by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: Valin
There's a small plaque in the sidewalk near the corner of Tryon and 4th Streets in downtown Charlotte: "Jefferson Davis was standing here when informed of the death of Abraham Lincoln." The Confederate Government was retreating to the South in the last days of the Civil War, and held its last full cabinet meeting in Charlotte.

Davis supposedly wept upon hearing the news, because he knew that Lincoln's successor, political weakling Andrew Johnson, even though himself a Southerner, would be unable to stand up to a vengeful Senate and House. Had Lincoln survived, "Reconstruction" (a euphonism if ever there was one) almost surely would have been less painful for the South.

38 posted on 04/14/2003 8:02:41 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (optional tag line, printed after my name)
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To: sheltonmac
Oh contraire. Republican Recontruction did not begin until March 1867. Until then, the Confederate-Democrats were still in charge of the South, and the President, Andrew Johnson, was a Democrat. Things would have gone much better had there not been a two-year delay before Reconstruction began. The reason most rebels regretted Lincoln's death was that Andrew Johnson, unlike most Republicans, had vowed to hang Jefferson Davis and his "pirate crew" -- as Andrew Johnson put it. For the true story, see http://www.republicanbasics.com/


39 posted on 04/14/2003 8:03:13 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Valin
I just saw this on the FoxNews ticker! No more developments yet..........shouldn't this be in Breaking News though? This is ..............

SERIES

40 posted on 04/14/2003 8:05:16 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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