An un-American conservative

Jerusalem Post ^ | Apr. 13, 2003 | IRVING LOUIS HOROWITZ

[ex-snook]

Hey moment-of-truth ahead. President Bush has given the American position for a Palestine State. This issue will divide the neo-cons into those for American interests first and those for foreign interests first. Let's see if there will be 'un-American neo-cons'.

[hchutch]

Well, a lot will depend on if the Palestinains live up to their end of the deal. To reward them with a state under ANY other circumstances would be to place Palestine's interests above America's.

However, I am beginning to get the feeling that the roadmap to Middle East peace might lead through Damascus.

[Poohbah]

Just out of curiousity: do you think the Palestinians will live up to their end of the bargain and knock off the terrorism?

[hchutch]

I wonder what the Vegas line on that is.

[Poohbah]

100-1 against :o)

[hchutch]

100-1 against...

Hmmm...

Not enough to take a flyer with $5, IMHO.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

That will happen from time to time. On the main, however, it occurs to me that there are not many reasons why America should be interested in supporting a society that turns a blind eye to suicide bombers who target innocent civilians.

Why are you so interested in being a voice of support for suicide bombers? Because they kill Jews?

[ex-snook]

"Just out of curiousity: do you think the Palestinians will live up to their end of the bargain and knock off the terrorism?"

As I see it the Palestinians want the whole place to themselves and the Israelis want the whole place to themselves. As Solomon-like proposals would divide it in half, with fixed borders. We should patrol those borders and bomb the first side that bombs the other side. That includes the Palestians if they don't live up to their end of the bargain.

[TomB]

Whadya think dighton, do we make it a FReep rule that every article by or about Patrick J. Buchanan MUST be accompianied by a picture of Stimpson J. Cat?

Think of it as the reverse Ann Coulter rule.

[TomB]

BTW, you don't have a good pic of Ren, do you?

I've been looking for one all day.

[antaresequity]

Niether do I

Whoever said no man is an island, didn't know of Pat

[Howlin]

Me, too, even if it is about Pat.

[habs4ever]

The frequency of these types of pieces is becoming a snoozer.It's over for PJB and his ilk and no one actually cares :-)

[Howlin]

Pat Buchanan, leader of the POP. (P*ssed off Paleos)

[Poohbah]

I didn't ask how you saw the origins of the conflict--I asked if you thought the Palestinians were going to live up to their end of the bargain or not.

A simple "yes" or "no" is all that's needed.

[Romulus]

"The awful thing is that beauty is mysterious as well as terrible. God and devil are fighting there, and the battlefield is the heart of man." this is how Dostoevsky puts it. Plainly re-stated, it's not a question of us Good Guys versus the evil other. The fundamental evil lurks inside every one of us. It's a fact that many seem determined to overlook.

[ex-snook]

"A simple "yes" or "no" is all that's needed."

OK. Assuming the Israelis will, the answer is yes. Now do you think the Israelis will live up to their end?

[american spirit]

He was against Goals 2000 which was a massive federal power grab of public education (didn't see any provisions for it in the Const. but it's a plank of the Communist Manifesto), he's vehemently opposed to illegal immigration (especially after 9-11 nothing but silence on this from the neo's) even though Congress has a Constitutional mandate to repel invasions....which is what is occurring in the Southwest aka Aztlan. He criticized Clinton and his blizzard of executive orders he issued while in office because he knew that there is no constitutional basis for EO's. Remember, Paul Begala's famous phrase?...."stroke of the pen, law of the land, kinda cool". How many mainstream pundits took that idiot to task after that? Buchanan was and is still correct on most of the idiotic free trade schemes that has moved many jobs overseas and has been a significant factor in the accumulation of unheard amounts of debt at the fedgov/corporate/personal level. By the way our current trade policies would surely bring a smile to a huge propoent of unlimited free trade....Karl Marx.

[Poohbah]

OK. Assuming the Israelis will, the answer is yes.

On what basis do you make this assumption?

Now do you think the Israelis will live up to their end?

They have--and they got a new round of suicide bombers every time they did so. So far, the Palestinians haven't even come close to living up to their end of the deals made to date.

I think there's a case to be made that you may be suffering from conflicting loyalties re: the US and Palestine.

[ex-snook]

"I think there's a case to be made that you may be suffering from conflicting loyalties re: the US and Palestine."

I loyally support the President's Two State solution, do you?