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CNN says its silence on Iraq atrocities had nothing to do with maintaining access
AP ^ | Monday, April 14, 2003

Posted on 04/14/2003 2:22:03 PM PDT by DannyTN

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Torie
Watch Judy five days in a row; you'll know what I'm talking about. You'll see it, too.
121 posted on 04/14/2003 8:12:39 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: DannyTN
Eason Jordan is a lying, craven SOB. This revelation thoroughly and--I believe--permanently discredits CNN as a reliable or trustworthy news source (not that there was much doubt to begin with). If you think about it, you can come up with high-sounding rationalizations that will justify almost any breach of ethics or fiduciary duties. Once you do, though, your reputation and trustworthiness are shot forever.

This is the lesson my dad taught me and the one I am trying to teach my boys. It is clear CNN's upper brass not only has not learned it, but they have institutionalized the opposite within their coverage culture.

Switch channels for good.

122 posted on 04/14/2003 8:15:34 PM PDT by Zebra
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To: Zebra
This revelation thoroughly and--I believe--permanently discredits CNN as a reliable or trustworthy news source

You are setting yourself up for the same disappointment and letdown felt after the impeachment saga. It will take much effort to keep this on the radar screen for very long.

123 posted on 04/14/2003 8:19:12 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Howlin
Watch Judy five days in a row; you'll know what I'm talking about. You'll see it, too.

Political pornography, without the pleasure.

124 posted on 04/14/2003 8:21:18 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: yonif
Worried about putting lives in danger!? But lives were lost because you didn't say anything!!!!

Well, that's different - the only lives that matter are their own employees... who cares about anyone else?

125 posted on 04/14/2003 8:27:01 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Some days, it's just not worth gnawing through the straps...)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
You are setting yourself up for the same disappointment and letdown felt after the impeachment saga. It will take much effort to keep this on the radar screen for very long.

Maybe. But here's the thing: I believe 9-11 changed everything. It shocked people out of their passivity and acceptance of the standard liberal bias that emanated from cable and network news bureaus. When Clinton was getting his pass on the impeachment, we had comparably secure feelings about our condition in the world. As such, the childish behavior of the boy President did not get the same scrutiny across the board that it would get in a post 9-11 world, where Americans want serious people in charge.

Also, when Clinton was lying to the grand jury, there was no Fox News. Sure, we had Limbaugh, but he reached only a certain segment. Now more people are listening and therefore being reached and influenced, now by sources such as Hannity, Fox News and what seems to me a coming together of critical, conservative voices.

I would agree that in a world without 9-11, speculating on the demise of CNN would be the triumph of hope over experience. But we are in a world where there has been a 9-11 and where certain groups want more 9-11s. Americans do not want to get their news from an organization that would LIE about its coverage to secure its access and "first mover on the scene" advantage. It is especailly contemptible when the CNN brass defends--rather that apologizes for--this gross dereliction of journalistic ethics and breach of trust. I believe that episodes like this will be kept fresh by the emerging conservative opinion makers. And because I believe that this is a cultural problem with CNN, I believe it will marginalize itself over the next 5 years.

I hope I'm right.

126 posted on 04/14/2003 8:40:52 PM PDT by Zebra
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To: Torie
Torie, don't listen to Howlin when he said: Watch Judy five days in a row; you'll know what I'm talking about. You'll see it, too.

He's trying to make you sick ! You won't be able to make it through l day of Judy, let alone a week. hahaha.

Did you all ever notice after she watches a segment and they go back to her, she always starts her sentence with "TIS"; she clicks her mouth or teeth ever time she starts a new thought! It's disgusting, always tis, tis tis !

I keep a cross laying on my coffee table next to the remote control - just to see which one I can grab quick enough to use against "Vanpire Judy" !

Karen

127 posted on 04/14/2003 8:40:56 PM PDT by KE
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To: DannyTN
[Eason Jordan, CNN's chief news executive, revealed the incidents in an op-ed piece in The New York Times Friday headlined "The News We Kept to Ourselves." ]

The ONLY resaon they came forward is they knew they were about to be outed. This "plausible deniability" explanation is pure hogwash. I hope the US government translates and makes public on the Internet the entire findings of the intel gatherered from Iraq. Time to set the record straight, and to inform everyone about who did what and when. THAT'S reporting. The truth will set us free. It will also clarify where CNN, France, Russia, Germany, and China stands vis a vis We The People.

128 posted on 04/14/2003 8:43:15 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Open the pod bay door HAL.)
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To: KE
Did you happen to see Judy the day she had Tom Clancy on and she made the mistake of telling Clancy there was no such thing as a liberal press.

He b*t*hslapped her for about five minutes; it was a sight to see; and Tom hasn't been asked back since.

BTW, I'm a gull.
129 posted on 04/14/2003 8:49:51 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I agree with your conclusion; something big is coming.
130 posted on 04/14/2003 8:50:38 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: DannyTN
"The decision not to report these particular events had nothing to do with access, and everything to do with keeping people from being killed as a result of our reporting," she said.

Bald-faced BS!

Around the world, in most statist countries, brought to you by the governments of these statist countries, CNN broadcasts the propaganda of these statist governments loud and clear....AND THEY DO IT FOR THE MONEY! For goodness sakes, part of CNN international is broadcast from the repressive country of China in a former free city -- a.k.a Hong Kong.

Can anybody imagine a CNN news bureau chief in H.K., living in a country where unalienable rights are not protected, coming to work and objectively reporting the truth about freedom.

131 posted on 04/14/2003 8:58:05 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: Howlin
So you think all the reporters that worked for CNN withheld vital information from the United States government?

1) They're an independent news agency. They're not there to report to the U.S. government.

2) The government knew all about this stuff long ago, and didn't need CNN to tell them anything.

3) It isn't exactly vital information.

132 posted on 04/14/2003 9:14:44 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Support our troops: Bring them home.)
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To: DannyTN
The News We Kept to Ourselves

THIS IS CNN.

133 posted on 04/14/2003 9:16:12 PM PDT by b4its2late (I know what's best for you.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
You and I are miles apart about this; I happen to believe that the media in this country owes the people the truth, not what they PERCEIVE as the truth, and especially not what some rogue regime tells them to report or they have to leave the country.

134 posted on 04/14/2003 9:23:27 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: Howlin
I happen to believe that the media in this country owes the people the truth, not what they PERCEIVE as the truth, and especially not what some rogue regime tells them to report or they have to leave the country.

I don't disagree with any of that. We're talking about protecting someone's safety, that's all. It's just like the government, when they don't want to reveal intel in open court because it might compromise the source of the information.

135 posted on 04/14/2003 9:25:01 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Support our troops: Bring them home.)
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To: Howlin
Much will be found. It remains to be seen how much will be made public.
136 posted on 04/14/2003 9:26:02 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Open the pod bay door HAL.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
We're talking about protecting someone's safety, that's all.

Someone's?

How many people do you estimate died in Iraq during the last 12 years of Saddam's reign?

And what if CNN had told what they knew?

137 posted on 04/14/2003 9:27:30 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
We're talking about protecting someone's safety

CNN should have left Iraq and reported the torture story, after the cameraman's release.

138 posted on 04/14/2003 9:34:41 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: FreeReign
CNN should have left Iraq and reported the torture story, after the cameraman's release.

Only if they wanted the cameraman and his whole family dead.

139 posted on 04/14/2003 9:36:56 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Support our troops: Bring them home.)
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To: Howlin
How many people do you estimate died in Iraq during the last 12 years of Saddam's reign? And what if CNN had told what they knew?

What if? Nothing!!! That's "what if." Our government knew that torture and murder and everything else were going on. Not one life would have been saved. In fact, more would have been lost.

140 posted on 04/14/2003 9:38:38 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Support our troops: Bring them home.)
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