As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

[estrogen]

I agree with you Diamond6. My husband is a gun collector, member of the NRA and an avid hunter. He doesn't need an assault weapon and I don't think anyone else does. You can hardly say that an assualt weapon is a sportsmens gun. Well...flame away all

[Fred Mertz]

It's spelled assault.

And you should crawl back under your rock.

[Mulder]

why people should own assault weapons?

For starters, it's our Right as Americans and Free men and women. One could also ask: why should anyone own a copying machine? The principle is the same.

Aren't these clearly weapons of war?

In the initial Supreme Court ruling on guns (US vs Miller in 1933) the basis of the ruling was that the gov't could regulate certain guns only if they weren't weapons of war. At least the understood the 2nd amendment better than most today, but they will still wrong in their ruling that ANY guns could be so regulated.

Anyway, the whole point of the second amendment is to ensure that the American people DO posses "weapons of war".

Aren't they also used only against people? Isn't this overkill? (literally)

No. Millions of Americans use them to target shoot or teach others how to shoot. The only way I could ever envision them being used against people is to defend the Constitution against all her enemies.

The question you should be asking is: "what are the politicians planning to do to us that is so bad that they don't want us to have rifles around?"

[rintense]

What is RKBA?

[Unwavering Conservative]

Dubya is anti-gun, yet he is sneaky with it because he masquerades as a Conservative.

I think he is as liberal as Chuck Schumer.

[Jesse]

So you think the second amendment is really meant to protect duck hunting?????

[Mulder]

The answer is so that people can keep their government at bay

Exactly.... Jefferson stated as much in our founding document.

[oldvike]

Right to keep and bear arms.

[Fred Mertz]

Where I live, everyone owns what they need to protect themselves.

I need a few more hand grenades, but I'll trade and barter for them.

[D Rider]

Right now I have a coyote problem. I keep a rifle by my bedroom window, with a clip nearby. It's tough enough trying to get a shot of on those critters. But to have to deal with trigger locks also,what a pain that will be. I might have to switch to claymore's.

[Cultural Jihad]

So you think owning C4 plastic explosives is a right?

[diamond6]

How about a machine gun? Should we let anybody get these, too?

[Unwavering Conservative]

RKBA = Right To Keep and Bear Arms

aka 2nd Amendment

It is the right that makes all other rights possible.

[Ramius]

Don't paint a broad brushed stroke for all Republicans. Does somebody want to explain to me - objectively, without flaming me - why people should own assault weapons? Aren't these clearly weapons of war? Aren't they also used only against people? Isn't this overkill? (literally)

I can explain it. The AW ban is a stupid law that bans certain guns based on the way they *look* not what they do. A real "Assault Weapon" is a submachinegun that has been heavily regulatated for decades. The "Assault Weapons" that were banned under this act are merely semiauto rifles, not submachineguns.

Are they used only against people? Well... of course they are. That's why guns were invented. That being the case doesn't make it a *bad* reason. I myself have used a firearm to end a hostile situation and I didn't even need to fire a shot. That the gun was intended to end a life was not relavant to the situation. It was there, and without it the situation may well have ended in the loss of life.

The "Assault Weapons" that are subject to the ban are merely rifles. They are no different from most other rifles other than how they look. They look scary, therefore they scare journalists. Journalists then write scary stories about them and then stupid people vote accordingly. That's really all there is to it.

[poet]

Is any clear thinking person surprised that he is just another lying politician who has fooled the public into thinking he is an honorable guy.

[Constitution Day]

Wait and see bump. STILL steamed.

[LurkerNoMore!]

Do you think President Bush is as liberal as Chuck Schumer?

[Ramius]

So why don't we allow people to own hand grenades, bombs, or nuclear weapons? Is there any limit to what should be allowed?

Those things are "Ordinance". They are not "Arms". The writers of the bill of rights knew the difference then, too.

[Mulder]

My husband is a gun collector, member of the NRA and an avid hunter.

Oh, so he has an evil "sniper rifle"?

You do realize that most hunting rifles fire rounds MUCH more powerful and with significantly more range than a typical .223 "assault weapon" round.

He doesn't need an assault weapon

That's his problem, not mine.

and I don't think anyone else does

Since 1994, there have been around 1 million AR15's sold to Americans. That doesn't count other semiautos, nor those made before then. So how exactly do you propose to steal millions of rifles from Americans?

[Deb]

First of all, where's the link to the quote by the WH spokesman?

Second, the law doesn't come up for renewal for a year and a half.

Third, when Ashcroft was ambushed at a congressional hearing by DiFi and badgered about whether the law would be expanded, he gave everyone the impression it would not only not be expanded or revisited, but might be allowed to die.

Of course, it's never too soon for uncle bill and his buds to start their usual JBS Chicken-NWO-Little routine. Has he ever been right about anything?

BEWARE THE BUILD-A-BURGERS!!!!