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The Compassion of the Left
World Net Daily ^ | 4/15/03 | Neil Boortz

Posted on 04/15/2003 1:45:24 PM PDT by amused

Seven months ago, in my very first column for WorldNetDaily, I told you why liberals find it so difficult to succeed at talk radio. I reviewed that column recently and saw that I failed to introduce you to a group of people called Democratic Talk Radio.

Democratic Talk Radio consists of two stalwart Democrats, Stephen Crockett and Al Lawrence, who have launched a syndicated Democratic talk-radio show and who use their website to cajole followers to lobby radio stations on their behalf.

Their website really is worth a visit. Log onto one of their message boards and make a comment critical of a Democrat or Democratic policy – and see how long it is before your comment is excised and you are banned from further participation.

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Kelly's conservative, anti-Clinton credentials made him a prime target for leftist vitriol – and if you want to find some real good leftist vitriol, there are few places better than DemocraticUnderground.com. Following Kelly's death, Democrats logged on to democraticunderground.com to express their "feelings." Those who are strong-of-stomach might be able to read some of the postings without any appreciable sudden weight loss.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Free Republic; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; boortz; dummies; dumpster; ghouls; michaelkelly
Boortz shows DU for what it is. Hiding behind the "tolerance" and "peace" is nothing tolerant or peaceful.

And after braving the sewer, I am happy to report that DU is going nuts over this because they feel they were "selectively" quoted. They don't have the cajones to own up to making a mistake. Instead as usual with the left, it's someelse's fault.

1 posted on 04/15/2003 1:45:25 PM PDT by amused
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2 posted on 04/15/2003 1:45:53 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: amused
Hmmm. Is the Micheal Kelly who was killed in Iraq the same Micheal Kelly who was famous for his anti-Clinton pieces (such as "I believe")?
This article and the DU quotes make it sound like he was, but it seems I read in threads here it was a different Micheal Kelly.
Would appreciate enlightenment
3 posted on 04/15/2003 1:50:56 PM PDT by murdoog
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To: amused
There was another thread on DU about 3 weeks prior to the November elections. A republican candidate for an NC House seat died. A DUer posted a thread asking if he should be happy and joyful about this. At the time I was posting at DU and gave him a piece of my mind. I was banned, but for comments on another thread. Then just a week later Wellstone died. But being that I was banned i couldnt go and comment to the poster of the thread expressing joy about a GOP candidate dying.

They should be more careful about what they wish for.

4 posted on 04/15/2003 1:52:19 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: amused
Also, Blogger Brian at FederalReview.com posted a blog about DU's glee at the death of Kelly and included a link to the thread.
5 posted on 04/15/2003 1:53:59 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: amused
In fairness, Rush uses call screeners who filter out non-dittos as well. And if a DU'er would come here and post their typical nonsense, they'd be banned as well. As far as wishing death on other media figures, thats just sick.
6 posted on 04/15/2003 1:55:11 PM PDT by Desecrated (A nickel of every tax dollar should go toward the defense of America)
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To: Desecrated
Have you ever listened to Rush?! Liberals go to the head of the line if they identify themselves as such.
7 posted on 04/15/2003 1:56:19 PM PDT by babyface00
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To: murdoog
It's the same Michael Kelly.
8 posted on 04/15/2003 1:56:40 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: Desecrated
Rush uses screeners to keep people who are unable to articulate their thoughts in a coherent fashion off the air and those who wish to speak about something that is off topic at that time. NOT to keep people who disagree with him off the air. He puts those callers to the front of the line.

Democratic Talk Radio wanted to bring in their own call screeners so only like minded people, and most likely plants would get on air.

9 posted on 04/15/2003 1:57:58 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: babyface00
No I don't listen to him so my info comes from print articles. Specifically, it was a critique that he employs numerous call screeners to create the impression that everyone agrees with him. So do liberals get a chance to speak regularly on the show?
10 posted on 04/15/2003 2:00:32 PM PDT by Desecrated (A nickel of every tax dollar should go toward the defense of America)
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To: amused
Oh that DTR site is fun.

Here are some excerpts...

"Separation of Church and State has been the single most important element in making America a great nation"

Then why did it take the Supreme Court to "find" it in the Constitution?

"The Christian doctrine of "Free Will" is ignored by the political activities of the Republican "so called" Christian Right. We are given the choice to select sin or salvation by God. Legislation is simply irrelevant to salvation. Salvation is the purpose of Christianity, not legislative or political victories by Republicanism.

Christianity also teaches us to care for the poor and helpless. This is not reflected in the lobbying or electoral activity of the "so called" Christian Right. The Republican agenda is a political statement that essentially glorifies Greed. Since when is the Christian religion an advocate of Greed? "

This is the glaring inconsistency of the Democratic Party. If we have "free will" then why do we have to "care for the poor and helpless" at the point of a gun (via government taxation)? Charity isn't charity if its forced.
11 posted on 04/15/2003 2:00:35 PM PDT by babyface00
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To: amused
*Sigh*. The good die young. Sometimes I think God looks down at such people and says "This one's done. There's no more improvements to be made. "
12 posted on 04/15/2003 2:00:35 PM PDT by murdoog
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To: amused
With hatred like this out there I worry for our President and pray that he is very, very careful and does everything the SS tells him to do. If these people are willing to talk like this I don't put anything past them.

However, I have to say, if it comes down to a fight between liberals and conservatives, conservatives will beat them like Tanya Harding beating up Paula Jones.
13 posted on 04/15/2003 2:01:47 PM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republic of Iraq)
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To: Desecrated
As I said, Liberals get preferential treatment. Don't believe everything you read.

In fact, its most entertaining when Rush lets the Liberals talk uninterrupted, although sometimes he has to stop them to make their tirades fit in the alloted timeslot.

He often invites them to call back too.
14 posted on 04/15/2003 2:02:06 PM PDT by babyface00
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To: Phantom Lord
There was another thread on DU about 3 weeks prior to the November elections. A republican candidate for an NC House seat died. A DUer posted a thread asking if he should be happy and joyful about this. At the time I was posting at DU and gave him a piece of my mind. I was banned, but for comments on another thread. Then just a week later Wellstone died. But being that I was banned i couldnt go and comment to the poster of the thread expressing joy about a GOP candidate dying.

They keep saying that FR was worse when Wellstone died. I don't remember much of anyone being happy that he died. Most of the comments I saw were "I didn't agree with him, but that's a shame. Prayers for the family". I even remember people giving him kudos for being a principled liberal. Maybe they remember how horrified we were when they used his memorial to conduct a pep rally.

But that Kelly thread on DU appears to be dead, I tried to link through on my copy and the one from Instapundit. Should have done a screen shot I guess.

15 posted on 04/15/2003 2:03:12 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: babyface00
Rita X hasn't called in for a while. I look forward to her next call. Unless she has finally left on the Mother Ship.
16 posted on 04/15/2003 2:03:29 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: amused
DU's thread on the Boortz column
17 posted on 04/15/2003 2:05:53 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: murdoog
I BELIEVE, by Michael Kelly

As telling an indictment of the Klintoon years as was ever written.

So good, it deserves to be posted over and over and OVER again. Rest in peace, Michael.

18 posted on 04/15/2003 2:06:39 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Mr. Avuncular)
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To: babyface00
Well, I stand corrected then!
19 posted on 04/15/2003 2:09:02 PM PDT by Desecrated (A nickel of every tax dollar should go toward the defense of America)
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To: Desecrated
Hannity, Boortz and Rush all put liberals to the head of the list...and the only time they get cut-off is when they sound like the idiots at DU. Most Conservatives I know enjoy spirited debate (even here) but when it breaks down into name calling, the debate is over...we win.
20 posted on 04/15/2003 2:10:41 PM PDT by cwb
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To: Desecrated
"No I don't listen to him so my info comes from print articles."

If you don't listen, why would you care? If you care, why don't you take a little time out of your busy social life and listen? I''m truly baffled.

Hell, I even listened to that crock Mario Cuomo a few times, just so I could comment intelligently about what he had to say. THAT was no fun at all.

21 posted on 04/15/2003 2:11:55 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
At least Cuomo's show didnt last long enough that you had to listen to it multiple times.
22 posted on 04/15/2003 2:16:44 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Relax, Ranger! The reason I don't take time out of my "busy social life" and listen is because I am at WORK, and radio is not an option. I don't care for radio, am or fm, because there are too many commercials and the reception is generally poor in my area. The reason why I care is because it is important to examine whether you are calling the kettle black before thrashing a group of people. No group is perfect. People on this thread corrected me re: Rush and I admitted the mistake. Happy now?
23 posted on 04/15/2003 2:20:34 PM PDT by Desecrated (A nickel of every tax dollar should go toward the defense of America)
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To: Desecrated
In fairness, Rush uses call screeners who filter out non-dittos as well.

That is B. S. Rush loves to take on liberals. They go to the head of the line; and, they can't hold their own against Rush.

24 posted on 04/15/2003 2:29:18 PM PDT by saminfl
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To: Desecrated
This is not the Rush that I listen to ... he does bubble up NON-dittoheads to the front of the line.
25 posted on 04/15/2003 2:31:15 PM PDT by AgThorn (Continue to pray for our Troops!!)
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To: Desecrated
So do liberals get a chance to speak regularly on the show?

Rush truly does bubble up to the top of the cue those that have opposing views. The only problem that I would think that he would have is that it is harder on the left to find people that can articulate their views as well as those on the right. Just compare an average days postings at FreeRepublic with DU for a cross sampling of THIS problem.

26 posted on 04/15/2003 2:33:50 PM PDT by AgThorn (Continue to pray for our Troops!!)
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To: martin_fierro
That piece was one of Michael's finest works. The left cannot abide a man of principles; a man of principles, of character is not open to their methodology of lies, corruption, and misinformation. Even some fellow left-leaners are not acceptable to them ... note Hitchens and his Clinton Whitehouse friend for whom he would not perjure himself!
27 posted on 04/15/2003 2:34:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Desecrated
You can listen to the current Rush Limbaugh show, or any show for the past two weeks, on www.rushlimbaugh.com

It is a subscription site (at least for the archives- there is lots of "free" stuff there as well.

28 posted on 04/15/2003 2:38:10 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: amused
I might suggest that the reason you didn't see many of the more extreme comments when Wellstone died was because, as I recall, around one of every ten of them read like this:
Comment #N removed by moderator.

Some people here were pretty disgraceful in the days following his death. I've seen a few threads on DemocraticUnderground in the days after some prominent conservative died, and they're significantly worse; to be fair, though, some people here also lack common decency.
29 posted on 04/15/2003 2:39:25 PM PDT by JaimeD2
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
I have to say that I am probably overly irritated about this- because I have had this stereotypic conversatiuon with liberals too many times: (Liberal) "Oh, I can't STAND that stupid Rush Limbaugh. And he's fat!"

(Ranger) "Do you ever listen to the show? And by the way, have you looked at Michael Moore or Teddy Kennedy lately??")

(Liberal) "NO. But I can tell that you are a racist, homophobic, Nazi buffoon!"

30 posted on 04/15/2003 2:42:58 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: amused
What I remember from Wellstone's death was the outrage at the Dems for turning yet another supposedly sombre funeral into a political rally and bully stump.
Just like they do at EVERY funeral they have within their ranks.
31 posted on 04/15/2003 2:57:11 PM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: Desecrated
In fairness, Rush uses call screeners who filter out non-dittos as well.

But this isn't Rush.

And if a DU'er would come here and post their typical nonsense, they'd be banned as well. As far as wishing death on other media figures, thats just sick.

Actually I can name a few DUer's that are here. The reason that they still here has more to do with their manners than anything else. It's the hit and run posters that get banned.

32 posted on 04/15/2003 3:01:16 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: murdoog
Yes, Michael Kelly was justly renowned for his column on Clinton that fired around the Internet, entitled, "I Believe." That's why my latest column on United Press International (first link below) was an obituary for Kelly entitled, "I Believe" (1957-2003).

He was a fine writer and a fine thinker. He would have won the Pulitzer, except that such prizes are reserved for members of the club of the leftmedia.

Congressman Billybob

Please note: Yer Congresscritter will be live on RFR tonight. Open-mike! Y'all come, ya hear?

Latest column, now up on UPI, and FR, "I Believe" (1957-2003)

Latest book(let), "to Restore Trust in America."

33 posted on 04/15/2003 3:20:57 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Saddam has left the building. Heck, the building has left the building.")
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To: JaimeD2
I might suggest that the reason you didn't see many of the more extreme comments when Wellstone died was because, as I recall, around one of every ten of them read like this: Comment #N removed by moderator.

Yes, that shows the moderator doing their job and freepers alerting the mod to distasteful comments.

Some people here were pretty disgraceful in the days following his death. I've seen a few threads on DemocraticUnderground in the days after some prominent conservative died, and they're significantly worse; to be fair, though, some people here also lack common decency.

It's still the Internet after all so we can't expect everyone to be polite. Let's just say I am glad DU is getting the exposure it deserves. So many times libs have taken one post from FR and used it to characterize the site regardless if the post had been removed within minutes of being posted or whether the poster was doing a hit and run disruption. That Kelly thread sat there for days, the offensive posts left untouched with maybe 3 or 4 decent DUer's calling for shame.

Mind you the Chronilce had an article on FR dealing with our supposed rabidity and violence and DU was painted as a democrat discussion forum. The author was shocked when I sent her threads from DU dealing with among other things glee over Barbara Olsen's death and joy over the illness of Reagan, Heston and Robertson.

I won't let them paint themselves as benign. Of course this only entails attacking the far left because the DNC wouldn;t touch these poeple with a ten foot pole....well unless for their vote and donation ;-)

34 posted on 04/15/2003 3:23:58 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Thanks. I didn't want to include it in the article.
35 posted on 04/15/2003 3:26:38 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
The idea that FReepers were elated at Wellstone's death is just one of the many fantasies DUhers take as gospel, even when there is no proof of it. Kinda like Hillary being heterosexual.
36 posted on 04/15/2003 4:13:55 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
I notice that about the left. When one disagrees with them they are fat, ugly, stupid, etc. Quite a surprise for the self-proclaimed (but little deserved) multi-cultural left. There never seems to be an engagement of ideas. Maybe they don't have ideas of there own they can challenge with?
37 posted on 04/15/2003 4:47:56 PM PDT by samm1148
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To: Desecrated
If you listened to Limbaugh on a regular basis, you would know that Rush enjoys arguing with liberals some who are very nasty. Rush has stated many times that he does not wish to destroy liberals but convert them.
38 posted on 04/15/2003 6:16:59 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: JaimeD2
I agree that some here do not have common decency. I disagreed with just about everything Wellstone stood for except for the general idea of making our country into the best it can be. It was the particulars where I disagreed with him. But I was genuinely sorry to see Wellstone die. Wishing death for ones political opponents is not the right way to go. Now I do wish an ignominious end to many leftist political careers or even jail in certain cases (Sharpton, etc), but I don't want them to die. I want to see them defeated in the arena of ideas.
39 posted on 04/15/2003 6:25:15 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
You've been talking to my sister-in-law haven't you.

d;^)
40 posted on 04/16/2003 5:08:18 PM PDT by Chuckster
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To: amused
Leftist Compassion = Oxymoron
41 posted on 04/16/2003 6:37:14 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Desecrated
You really should listen a few times. Once you get past the self congratulatory bombast (it's part of his spiel, sort of self deprecating humor in reverse, and is amusing once you get used to it) he's really very articulate and perceptive, and he does often move liberal callers to the front.

The requirement is that they have a point, can express it clearly and with civility, and not retreat to personal insults when Rush hands them their head on a platter, which almost invariably is what happens to even the best of them. He's as popular as he is for a reason.

42 posted on 04/16/2003 6:55:47 PM PDT by katana
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To: Desecrated
In fairness, Rush uses call screeners who filter out non-dittos as well.

The only people Rush's screeners filter out are the ones that will bomb on the air, such as the speechmakers with their moldy old DNC talking points that drone on and on. Who wants to listen to some self-important schlub deliver a canned speech with all the passion of an NPR newsreader? Liberals are often allowed on Rush's show, provided they can make a compelling (read, entertaining) call.

As far as the DU stuff getting yanked, Jim Rob has said repeatedly that if you want to go play in the DU septic tank that is fine, just don't start stinking FR up with their sludge. Since Jim Rob owns this site, he gets to make the rules.

43 posted on 04/16/2003 7:06:55 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: driftless
I remember a couple of Freeper quotes after young Rachel Corrie got herself lodged between the ground and a bulldozer blade, and they weren't much more gracious than the ones Boortz is quoting about Kelly...
44 posted on 04/17/2003 9:32:49 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Phantom Lord
Rita X hasn't called in for a while. I look forward to her next call. Unless she has finally left on the Mother Ship.

She did call several months ago. While Rush was friendly and welcoming, Rita was so far gone in leftist hatred that it wasn't even fun listening to her. No talk of the mother ship. No mention of the chief joints of staff. I guess the Republican sweep in the last couple of elections completely sent her over the edge.

45 posted on 04/17/2003 10:34:55 AM PDT by exDemMom (9 out of 10 bloodthirsty tyrants agree, appeasements WORKS!)
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To: IrishBrigade
You are correct. Even a deluded fool like Rachel Corrie did not deserve to die like that even though it was mostly her fault. However her situation was slightly different than Kelly's. Corrie was an anti-American stooge for the terrorists and a promulgator of hatred towards Israel. But I do not want to see even fools like Corrie die, I want them to see the light. She was a young, extremely gullible American who went into a dangerous area without knowing the cost of her fanaticism. She never had the chance to learn how wrong she was and how much her life was wasted.
46 posted on 04/17/2003 5:07:37 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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