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Daughter of Sen. Ernest Hollings Found Dead
Fox News Online ^ | 4/16/03 | AP

Posted on 04/16/2003 9:17:39 AM PDT by TheBigB

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:36:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

MOUNT PLEASANT, S.C. A daughter of Sen. Ernest Hollings was found dead on the floor of her home, authorities said. There were no signs of foul play.

Salley Hollings, 46, was found Tuesday morning by her 12-year-old daughter, said Charleston County Coroner Susan Chewning.


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1 posted on 04/16/2003 9:17:40 AM PDT by TheBigB
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To: TheBigB
That's horrible. I feel especially bad for that poor little girl, finding her mother like that.

Lord have mercy.

2 posted on 04/16/2003 9:20:20 AM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: TheBigB
Prayers for the Senator and his family.
4 posted on 04/16/2003 9:21:36 AM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: TheBigB
I don't agree with Senator Leghorn (D-Disney) politically, but it is a shame to see him going through all this. No schadenfreude here, prayers out to Senator Hollings and his daughter's family.

}:-)4
5 posted on 04/16/2003 9:22:07 AM PDT by Moose4 (Mew havoc, and let loose the kittens of ZOT!)
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To: big ern
LOL, in incredible bad taste, but nevertheless, funny as hell.
6 posted on 04/16/2003 9:22:26 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Get High on Life, Not Drugs)
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To: TheBigB
Like Fred Thompson, this may give him another reason to retire next year.
7 posted on 04/16/2003 9:23:47 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"Like Fred Thompson, this may give him another reason to retire next year."

One would think that with all the previous deaths in his family that he had retired years ago to spend more time with them. Perhaps his family wasn't all that important to him afterall.

8 posted on 04/16/2003 9:29:37 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: big ern
Insensitive remark and totally uncalled for. No matter what party you belong to death is death and someone is suffering great pain.

May the Lord comfort the family and may the young daughter learn to go on without her beloved mother and may her mother rest in peace. Prayes for all of them.
9 posted on 04/16/2003 9:30:15 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: TheBigB
Outliving one's children is almost like a curse. Poor fella.
10 posted on 04/16/2003 9:31:23 AM PDT by Lee Heggy (Tastes like chicken.)
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To: TheBigB
Regardless of one's political differences, this is a terrible thing to happen. Sen. Hollings has been the butt of jokes and parodies over the years, but making light of the death of one of his children is uncalled for. This is very sad news. Prayers for the Senator and his family.
11 posted on 04/16/2003 9:36:11 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: TheBigB
There is nothing worse than finding your parent dead. It's something that stays with you all your life. Prayers for this child.
12 posted on 04/16/2003 9:36:36 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Lee Heggy
Outliving one's children is almost like a curse.

My Grandmother has outlived all 3 of Her Sons. She will 102 in Nov.

Sometimes I just sit and think about all the things She has seen and done in Her life.

13 posted on 04/16/2003 9:43:01 AM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: cubreporter
I really doubt Ernest Hollings is going to be lurking on FR anytime soon. I don't know the family and won't fake sympathy for a person I don't know. It would be innapropriate for me to wring my hands over the death of a person I've never heard of.

If you don't like a little humor even when the news is not good just don't read my posts or go on over to lucianne.com.
14 posted on 04/16/2003 9:44:07 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (.45 .46, whatever it takes)
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To: TheBigB
That almost happened to me when I turned on C-SPAN2 one day.
15 posted on 04/16/2003 9:48:31 AM PDT by Consort (Use only un-hyphenated words when posting.)
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To: ChefKeith
She will 102 in Nov.

will be 102

16 posted on 04/16/2003 9:51:14 AM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: big ern
I don't expect you to wring your hands over the death of someone you don't know. I didn't do that either but a little sensitivity or respect would be nice ... it would make you the bigger person in all this.
17 posted on 04/16/2003 10:11:19 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: TheBigB
Very sorry to hear this- my wife used to work with a woman whose daughter is on his staff, and Dem or not, he's a decent guy.
18 posted on 04/16/2003 10:11:43 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: TheBigB
The death of his daughter, one of four children, is the latest in a series of personal tragedies in recent years. In August 1999, his Isle of Palms home burned, destroying 40 years of political momentos. In the months after the fire, Hollings' two older brothers died, one of complications from emphysema and one of cancer.

...my aplogies to the moderator (who will probably let this stay about 15 seconds) and to the senator, but payback seems to be catching up with him and I just can't resist:

"Der is too much consu-u-u-umin' goin' 'round heah!"

19 posted on 04/16/2003 10:26:08 AM PDT by meandog (tR)
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To: cubreporter
Faking sympathy for a family I don't know (tsk tsk, oh that's so awful) and they would never even hear me say it, won't make me bigger person anymore than faking an orgasm would make someone a great lover.
20 posted on 04/16/2003 10:26:20 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (.45 .46, whatever it takes)
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To: big ern
Well the thing is that YOU would know you did the right thing. However, you have your opinion which I respect and I have mine which I hope you respect so we leave it there.
21 posted on 04/16/2003 11:29:19 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: TheBigB
God bless the family. R.I.P.
22 posted on 04/16/2003 11:30:01 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: cubreporter
Im not sure what Big Ern's remark was, however poking fun at at someone's personal tragedies is something you would see at DU. They are hateful and venomous creatures, as FReepers we should hold to a higher standard and not become like them.
23 posted on 04/16/2003 11:35:57 AM PDT by RC30
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To: TheBigB
He's certainly being tested. All those tragedies...May God give him peace and comfort during this difficult time.
24 posted on 04/16/2003 11:37:26 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: mass55th
That remark wasn't necessary. You don't have a clue as to what he does with or for his family. You sound like a democrat.
25 posted on 04/16/2003 11:38:28 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Lee Heggy
The most difficult thing I've ever done was to tell my over 90 grandmother that her only son, my dad, had died. It has never left me.
26 posted on 04/16/2003 11:39:44 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: big ern
Its sad that you would have to FAKE sympathy for a death in the family. Politics aside, Ernest lost a kid. And his granddaughter lost her mom. That sucks. Its pretty cold hearted not to even CARE about them as fellow human beings.
28 posted on 04/16/2003 11:43:05 AM PDT by CaptainJustice (Dangerous Jesus Lover)
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To: CaptainJustice
Its sad that you would have to FAKE sympathy for a death in the family. Politics aside, Ernest lost a kid. And his granddaughter lost her mom. That sucks. Its pretty cold hearted not to even CARE about them as fellow human beings.

It's not a death in THE family. It's a death in a family that doesn't know me and I don't know them. I didn't say I didn't care about people dying and I didn't say it wasn't awful for them. I said I won't pretend to be emotional and start my own prayer thread for a family that could care less how I feel about their circumstances and will never know otherwise.

I spoofed Rush to be honest and anyone who gets upset about it is just trying to make themselves feel better about themselves by pretending that their sympathy in a insignificant thread on FR means diddly to the Hollings family.

And since when does bad taste get someone in trouble on FR, home to Feinswinesuksass and hillarysfatass screenames? Jackie Mason has said worse and he's been in the comedy business for about 60 years.

I think some on this thread are confusing sympathy with pity. I'm looking up at the David Bloom funeral on MSNBC live right now and am stuck at the self importance of the event. David Bloom didn't report as if he was the story while he was embedded (unlike Geraldo genetic predisposition to so) so why is MSNBC carrying this event live when it's not a news story? Can't they make the funeral important to the employees of MSNBC without pretending the rest of us care to watch it on TV? p.s. I didn't send flowers to that Island they buried Princess Diana on either. Should I feel guilty?

29 posted on 04/16/2003 12:24:56 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (.45 .46, whatever it takes)
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To: TheBigB
I guess hillary was sending a message to the Senator
30 posted on 04/16/2003 12:26:38 PM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America)
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To: TheBigB
There is too much dying going on in this world.
31 posted on 04/16/2003 12:28:47 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (.45 .46, whatever it takes)
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To: TheBigB
Does she have a husband? I hope the little girl will have a comforting person to look after her.

God be with the family.
32 posted on 04/16/2003 12:30:32 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: RC30
Im not sure what Big Ern's remark was, however poking fun at at someone's personal tragedies is something you would see at DU. They are hateful and venomous creatures, as FReepers we should hold to a higher standard and not become like them.

Thanks for not jumping to any conclusions about what I wrote or lumping me in with the devil's spawn.

33 posted on 04/16/2003 12:31:09 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (.45 .46, whatever it takes)
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To: big ern
When I was a teenager, a person I didn't like died in a car crash.

I made no bones about not missing him, and my grandmother told me "When God lays his hands on someone, you take yours off" or something like that. I laughed at her comment (we didn't get along).

Two months later, one of my best friends died, and yes, some vultures had the same response to her death that I did to the aforementioned.

I believe Gram was right and never did it again.
34 posted on 04/16/2003 12:36:37 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: mabelkitty
That's a nice story and a good lesson. I would suggest sharing it with someone who needs it. I never spoke ill of the Senator or his family.

That's the problem with striking a reply those that come later assume all sorts of stuff about you.

What I said was There is too much dying going on around here. But I put "" around it and a southern accent.

Apparently that is in worst taste than certain screenames around this board and some who have said what I would consider to be beyond what I wrote by miles.
35 posted on 04/16/2003 12:46:08 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (.45 .46, whatever it takes)
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To: Marysecretary
"That remark wasn't necessary. You don't have a clue as to what he does with or for his family. You sound like a democrat."

Gee Mary....didn't you recently post the quote below on another thread:

"Exactly! I could never figure out why anyone would want to own an assault weapon. I'm sure there are many who do, but are they useful for anything except killing folks?"

Sometimes killin' folks is necessary. How do you think we gained our freedom?

36 posted on 04/16/2003 12:55:07 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: TheBigB
How tragic. There's nothing I can think of that's worse than a parent losing a child -- I saw what it did to my grandmother when her youngest daughter (my mom) died suddenly. It took her will to go on, and she didn't last all that much longer. My deepest sympathies to the Hollings family.
37 posted on 04/16/2003 12:57:55 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Republicans for Kucinich)
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To: big ern
Whether or not you have ever met Senator Hollins is beside the point. He has suffered a tragedy. It is only right to respect this. Senator Hollins, no matter his political leanings, has done some good for the State and the Low-Country. He is a public figure and is deserving of respect, especially in his time of grief. The same respect that we showed Senator Thurmond when he lost his daughter. If you can't or won't do that than please leave. Thank you sir.

A proud South Carolinian and Charlestonian
38 posted on 04/16/2003 3:04:27 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: big ern
How crude and disrepectful to the people of South Carolina. You, sir, are no gentleman.
39 posted on 04/16/2003 3:05:53 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: big ern
Gentility and manners, sir. If you didn't know, nor care about Senator Hollins and/or anything to do with South Carolina, then why did you bother to show your face on this thread anyway?
40 posted on 04/16/2003 3:11:21 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: dixie sass
Well since you are now the "gentleman" police make sure you send me a ticket so I can be a gentleman police scofflaw.

Care to tell me what you found so offensive to S.C. since I never mentioned that state? Maybe while your so insulted you could explain to me why I need to not say there is too many people dying in his family?

41 posted on 04/16/2003 3:12:01 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (.45 .46, whatever it takes)
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To: big ern
Sir, I believe you had better go back and read that again. I do believe that you were compared to the people at DU, possibly being like them.
42 posted on 04/16/2003 3:13:13 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: big ern
I really doubt Ernest Hollings is going to be lurking on FR anytime soon. I don't know the family and won't fake sympathy for a person I don't know. It would be innapropriate for me to wring my hands over the death of a person I've never heard of.

For God's sake man, you don't have to fake sympathy but you don't have to be an absolute cretin about it. Weren't you taught even basic manners?

43 posted on 04/16/2003 3:13:17 PM PDT by pchuck
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To: dixie sass
Do you only read obits and news items of people and stories that you are intimately aquainted with? I read many stories about those that I won't show up to their wake and I wouldn't say not pretending to be sorrowful for them is rude. I didn't wish his family ill or make a political statement and then dance on someone's grave.

You seem to be insulted that I don't have any personal feelings about the death of someone I don't know. I feel bad about his poor grandchild walking in on her dead mother but how is me saying that on a thread on FR going to help her feel better?

As for insulting S.C., well I really don't care if some folks from S.C. are so insulted that people who don't live there aren't all worked up over the daughter of a S.C. Senator fell over dead in her kitchen. (Insert you "Well, I never" right here.)

If S.C. can handle having Ernest Hollings as a senator since the 60s or so I guess they can survive me not running to the kleenex box over this news story.

(Actually I bet you have.)

44 posted on 04/16/2003 3:21:27 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (.45 .46, whatever it takes)
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To: big ern
Senator Hollins is a son of South Carolina, he is in the public eye and is therefore "known" to me. Although our families have mutual friends, I have never met the Senator. I still have respect for the fact that he has lost his daughter and his granddaughter has lost her mother. As one human to another, I will extend my sympathies.

As to my responses, they are only to specific posts. If that is what you said and you are the person that had the posting pulled by the moderator, than there was something more and it was offensive to someone, enough for them to have hit the abuse button.
45 posted on 04/16/2003 3:25:34 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: dixie sass
For the last time. I used a fake (if that's possible in the written word) southern accent and a reworded the phrase Rush uses when he talks about Hollings to say he has had too many people dying in his family.

Apparently some are too thick to understand this and others never read the original post and yet still find it in themselves to get all worked up.

If you read the article it's clear he has a lot of deaths in his family in the last few years.

FR does allow for a little inside humor making a point at times. Some people can't seem to remember this on this thread. Others I guess just want to be insulted.

Some of you folks expect me to cry on cue like Clinton or something.

Here goes again.

"There's too much dyin goin on out dere" That means there's too many people in his family going over to the other side lately.

I didn't say he deserved the tradgedy. I didn't say I hope he has more of it. I didn't even say he's had just enough tradgedy.

I don't cry when a Kennedy dies because I don't know them and don't have any ties to them. It's not like a family member dying or a neighbor or friend. I didn't light a candle when Sonny Bono died and I won't light one when the truck driver from walla walla is in the obit page.

46 posted on 04/16/2003 3:32:25 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (cheese n rice already.)
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To: dixie sass
If that is what you said and you are the person that had the posting pulled by the moderator, than there was something more and it was offensive to someone, enough for them to have hit the abuse button.

Look I could hit the abuse button on this reply and it wouldn't mean it was in bad taste or rude. If it got pulled it would be for a dumb reason and it's not like that never happens. Moderators make mistakes because they're human and humans aren't perfect. I've actually had a reply pulled before that said (in it's entirety) "please god smite our enemies". Some nanny found it offensive that I asked god to smite our enemies and found a moderator that believed that was actually inciting violence. Anything is possible when you have humans involved. I'll type it again I never said anything ill about Hollings or his family. I used a humorous (to some and not others) means of saying he had too much tradjedy in his life. I was then accused of insulting his family having no compasion for his grandaughter and apparently this even is a dueling offense for some South Carolinians.

If I'm wrong I have no problem admitting it and saying I'm sorry but I'm not wrong for not being all broken up over this tradjedy. If my mom dies in a car wreck, God forbid it, I'm not going to expect Sen. Hollings to go online, read the story, and then send out an email prayer wheel to make me feel better.

47 posted on 04/16/2003 3:42:11 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (cheese n rice already.)
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To: big ern
I understand. Thank you.
48 posted on 04/16/2003 4:03:02 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: big ern
I tried to say Well! I nevah. But, well, it just isn't me. Now I will admit to using a lot kleenex, but the only tears I have shed lately have been ... well, nevah mind. Thats neither here nor there.

49 posted on 04/16/2003 4:06:35 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: big ern
Ern, it's cheese and grits...

Rice and gravy, taters and gravy, but always cheese and grits or shrimp 'n grits.
50 posted on 04/16/2003 4:08:40 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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