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Russia now admits training Iraqi spies, But it says intent was to fight crime, terror
SF Chronicle ^ | 4-17-03 | Robert Collier, Bill Wallace, Chronicle Staff Writers

Posted on 04/17/2003 3:55:45 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Baghdad -- Russian intelligence officials have confirmed that Iraqi spies received training in specialized counterintelligence techniques in Moscow last fall -- training that appears to violate the United Nations resolution barring military and security assistance to Iraq.

A spokesman for the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), Boris Labusov, acknowledged that Iraqi secret police agents had been trained by his agency but said the training was for nonmilitary purposes, such as fighting crime and terrorism.


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1 posted on 04/17/2003 3:55:45 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Russian Bear gave equipment to kill Americans, too.

========= Iraqi television =========

Iraqi TV boasts that they have Russian antitank 'technology,
which was used to kill Americans, and it was
given after OK by Putin himself..


========= Terrorist Enabling Russian =========

On the trail of WMD/cruiseMISSILE/GPS-jammers/-selling Putin,
Putin disingenuously denied that Russian firms sold military equipment to Iraq
because there were intermediaries and retired agents.


2 posted on 04/17/2003 4:12:29 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
They gotta hire someone other than the Iraqi Minister of Information to write their excuses.
3 posted on 04/17/2003 4:18:32 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Vlad Putin confirmed today that there are no American troops in Baghdad and that the Iraqi army has crushed the Anglo-American incursion and put the invading infidels to flight.
4 posted on 04/17/2003 4:25:03 AM PDT by aardvark1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
said the training was for nonmilitary purposes, such as fighting crime and terrorism.

How could you possibly improve upon crime and terrorism? They are the best in the world now!

5 posted on 04/17/2003 4:31:39 AM PDT by chachacha
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To: chachacha
What about that list of available assassins Putin provided Hussein? Did he "explain" that?
6 posted on 04/17/2003 4:50:16 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Teacher317
You posted, "They gotta hire someone other than the Iraqi Minister of Information to write their excuses."

Their propaganda spinners imbedden in Pravda, the NY Slimes and ABCNNBCBS are no better at spinning and lying than the Russian Military advisors are at how to defeat America.

Actually, Baghdad Bob would be an improvement for their Agit/PropSpin division of misinformation.
7 posted on 04/17/2003 5:03:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Duh! Wonder if that was why they were against the war. Fraid they would be found out?
8 posted on 04/17/2003 5:34:44 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

“But we have to listen to the French and Russians on the question of Iraq!” screams the left.

9 posted on 04/17/2003 6:08:43 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Fine, if we need to find the truth, then let us in the Kremlin and look up your files. We have probable cause.
10 posted on 04/17/2003 6:14:13 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
In other news, the Russians issued a clarification of their reasons for entering into the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in 1939.

It appears they were desirous to participate with the Nazi regime of Adolf Hitler in order to combat crime and terror.

Nothing follows.
11 posted on 04/17/2003 6:34:14 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Diogenesis
Hey, that Putin looks kinda creepy, almost like a KGB guy or something!
12 posted on 04/17/2003 6:35:06 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Russia now admits training Iraqi spies, But it says intent was to fight crime, terror

Russia now admits to selling armor peircing anti-tank RPG's during the war but says intent was for hunting and deconstruction.(/sarcasm)

13 posted on 04/17/2003 6:53:33 AM PDT by m1-lightning (The War Protest is a Quagmire)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
so in other words I was correct Russia is the enemy and always has been a enemy of America and Putin fooled Bush but good......
14 posted on 04/17/2003 6:57:57 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I think that Putin/Russia is smart enough to know that they need the U.S. to keep their economy & their country afloat. But that doesn't mean that they won't try to screw us at every opportunity, they want us to stumble as much as possible to make us look bad and make them look good.
15 posted on 04/17/2003 9:06:59 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Russian intelligence officials have confirmed that Iraqi spies received training in specialized counterintelligence techniques in Moscow last fall -- training that appears to violate the United Nations resolution barring military and security assistance to Iraq.

To the extent the UN continues to operate, Russia should not have a seat on the security council.

16 posted on 04/17/2003 9:23:26 AM PDT by EaglesUpForever (russia and france are hypocritical lying scum)
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To: TLBSHOW
so in other words I was correct Russia is the enemy and always has been a enemy of America and Putin fooled Bush but good

Bush reached out to Putin, entrusted him with a chance to put more of the past behind us. Who is to say Bush was fooled, perhaps it was Putin himself who couldn't resist the forces of anti-Americanism, despite his denials of their existence. Russia was quite happy walking down a double-dealing middle, but in a world of you are either with us or against us, look what has been exposed. Putin has been fooled, he's the one having to explain, not Bush.

17 posted on 04/17/2003 9:52:40 AM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Have they always lied this much, or did they learn at the feet of the master perjurer, Bill Klintoon? Inquiring minds really want to know.
18 posted on 04/17/2003 12:10:40 PM PDT by LaGrone
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To: TLBSHOW
Yes. And how come there is no comment on the information that the Russians advised Saddam on his nuclear weapons (not how to make, but what to do with the existing ones."
19 posted on 04/17/2003 12:26:44 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

20 posted on 04/17/2003 12:38:23 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Alamo-Girl; ALOHA RONNIE; kattracks; buffyt; Victoria Delsoul



21 posted on 04/17/2003 12:55:58 PM PDT by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: Paul Ross
Thanks for the heads up!
22 posted on 04/17/2003 1:21:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Diogenesis
Am I reading this correctly? Are we still paying "Economic Aid" to Russia? From: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2064.html it would appear that the 2000 estimate was $5.6 Billion with a B. Am I confused about who paid this? Was this was American Tax Dollars At Work? Or is this worldwide aid or something? (Please tell me we’re not fighting against our own tax dollars in Iraq!)

Hmmm. Confusion reigns. Senator Joe Biden seems pretty proud of his Tax Money for Reds plan. At least that what his Biden Introduces Legislation to Support Russian Democracy web page seems to say. (In 1999 he was senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee) and he seems to be looking after Russian interests to the tune of $30 million taxpayer dollars. So tell us Joe, was any of that money at work in Iraq?

Well, I guess that’s not the whole picture either. "Last year, nearly $5 billion of IMF aid to Russia disappeared in offshore accounts set up by Russia's own central bank." according to the minutes of the Committee on Banking and Financial Services meeting Thursday, June 10, 1999 U.S. House of Representatives. And the IMF gets the money,… where? Yeah that’s what I was afraid of.

Let me see if I got the math right. 250 million folks in the US. Maybe half pay taxes. So we get $5.6 billion divided by 125 million for an average of $44.50 per taxpayer. (gee, government math is tough with all those zeros to count) So I sent half a Ben Franklin to Vlad to help him help Saddam build a Children’s Prison? Zat right? No, it can’t be. I’m one of those dreaded Rich People that pay 96% of the taxes. So 10% of the country REALLY paid the money. So my share is more like $224.00. Two Ben Franklins, two Andy Jacksons, an Abe Lincoln, and I get four quarters in change. And I didn't even get a lousy T Shirt?!

23 posted on 04/17/2003 2:21:12 PM PDT by LocalYokel (my state might be blue but my county was red)
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To: TLBSHOW
russia IS the enemy.

BUT bush was not"fooled" per se.
We just aren't ready to back them down till we defuse all their little puppet state proxy warriors...

FRANCE is in it with them.
WAR with France by Year's End...

The cold war NEVER ended. IT just went underground to adopt terrorist activities against us through the likes of PLO, Hamas, Kim Jong Nuke, PETA and ELO...

It is their version of guerilla warfare against the United States...

We will bury them... or their crystaline ashes.
PUTIN is NOT to be trusted.

Russia has helped the worldwide terrorist assoctiation in their spying, espionage and terrorist attacks against Western Civilization.

France has thrown in with the worldwide socialists of terror and fascism along with Russia, Syria, NK, Iran, Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela, most of the African and South American Continents and China... in their collective desperation to "counterbalance" the English speaking HEGEMONY of power...

screw them all... they are the supporters of terrorism and evil the world over...

BUSH knows it... But does Powell? and if Powell does NOT know it, why does Bush keep him in place? He cannot truly be that stupid (Powell that is). I don't think Bush is fooled.

I think we are still afraid of their nukes... til the shield is in place that is.
24 posted on 04/17/2003 2:36:58 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (What price treason?)
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To: Teacher317
ROFLMBO
25 posted on 04/17/2003 2:37:59 PM PDT by madison10 (Think first, type later.)
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To: TLBSHOW
What makes you so sure President Bush was fooled? Just because they rode around in a pick-up?
26 posted on 04/17/2003 2:39:16 PM PDT by madison10 (Think first, type later.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And another chip falls where it may.
27 posted on 04/17/2003 3:00:10 PM PDT by Freakazoid (I'll take mine scrambled)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It seems to me that Baghdad Bob has been cloned and that every weasel country has employed one of those clones as their spokesman.
28 posted on 04/17/2003 9:05:33 PM PDT by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
". . . training was for nonmilitary purposes, such as fighting crime and terrorism."

If anyone believes that, then there's the Brooklyn Bridge in NY for sale.
29 posted on 04/17/2003 11:42:46 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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