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Je$$e HiJackson and NASCAR Next on O'Reilly (O'REally!)
Bill O'Reilly on Fox News | 4/17/03

Posted on 04/17/2003 5:48:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 04/17/2003 5:48:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Why is NASCAR refusing to comment why it gives money (6 figures ) to Je$$e?
2 posted on 04/17/2003 5:50:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic.. God Bless America!!!)
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Peter Flaherty from National Legal and Policy Center is questioning why NASCAR wants to have it both ways.

ie. How can they support our troops and support JeSSe and his "troops" who protested the Iraq war?

3 posted on 04/17/2003 5:52:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic.. God Bless America!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hush money...
4 posted on 04/17/2003 5:54:43 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: TomServo
Could be.. Are blacks discriminated against and prevented from competing on the NASCAR circuits?

I think Rodney King should be running in the Busch series at least. He can fly!!!

5 posted on 04/17/2003 6:00:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic.. God Bless America!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Quote below from an ESPN article found on Google:

"Jackson also got NASCAR to form a diversity council, develop an internship program at historically black colleges, and take part in a program that will expose minority youths in Philadelphia to auto racing."

6 posted on 04/17/2003 6:02:03 PM PDT by uvular (Something stinks, and it's not the litterbox)
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To: NormsRevenge
Aw crap. I already bought my tickets for Charlotte for this year, but I'm not going next year. I can't believe they didn't even put up a fight.
7 posted on 04/17/2003 6:02:15 PM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: uvular
a program that will expose minority youths in Philadelphia to auto racing

Yeah, they can learn to take the hubcaps at full speed.

8 posted on 04/17/2003 6:03:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: NormsRevenge
Now NASCAR will have to let a black driver win a race.
The cat is out of the bag.
They let dale jr win so they might as well start sponsering a asian, indian, mexican, black, etc, etc, race and win.
9 posted on 04/17/2003 6:03:53 PM PDT by winodog (The problem is sin. The solution is Christ.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Are blacks discriminated against and prevented from competing on the NASCAR circuits?

Jack$on thinks they are. Of course, Jack$on never misses a chance to chase an unearned and unwarranted buck or two.

10 posted on 04/17/2003 6:04:56 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: winodog
Mustn;t forget the Middle Easterners!

NASCAMEL ;-)

11 posted on 04/17/2003 6:05:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic.. God Bless America!!!)
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To: winodog
No kidding. Jr. wrecked in that massive accident on lap 4 (or was it lap 9), pitted 12 times, had a fender-repair strip flapping in the wind for a few laps (no black flag, but if it had been, say Kenny Schraeder, you know HE would have been black flagged), never got the fender back into perfect shape, and wins the race where aerodynamics count the most. Uh-uh. "The greatest drivers always find a way to win". Sure.
12 posted on 04/17/2003 6:07:29 PM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: NormsRevenge
I am so sick and freakin tired of any corporation or organization bowing at the feet of this sick racist cretin.

Since NASCAR sees fit to support this Black Trash, they're just gonna have to do without my financial support. I will not spend one more red cent on a ticket nor NASCAR merchandise.

And that fat a$$ NA$CAR idiot can kiss this fan goodbye.

Jesse Jackson should have no moral authority over anyone and yet NASCAR thumbs it's nose at the people that brung em to the dance and sends the very dollars you and I spend to this anti-american socialist race baiting anti-christian value JERK!!!

There, I feel better now......but I still hate him and I hate what NASCAR is becoming.

P.S. Get ready for the "rap" version of the National Anthem.

13 posted on 04/17/2003 6:08:45 PM PDT by jawstenn1
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To: NormsRevenge
Who was on from NASCAR?
14 posted on 04/17/2003 6:10:02 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: NormsRevenge
I think Je$$e is upset because NASCAR uses only black tires. I fully expect NASCAR to start demanding that white tires share the load too. After all, why should the black tires do all the work. Immediately thereafter, NASCAR will allow a Lexus to win a few races.
15 posted on 04/17/2003 6:10:47 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: pnz1
No one. Per Bill, when contacted, the response from the Public Relations rep was "No comment."
16 posted on 04/17/2003 6:12:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic.. God Bless America!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2002/0227/1341866.html
This is a very lengthy article. There's some mention of NASCAR towards the bottom.
17 posted on 04/17/2003 6:18:31 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: freedomcrusader
You left out the part where he passed below the yellow line which sends everyone else down a lap. But the one that got me was when he won the race his dad died in. His car blew by everyone everytime he needed to then he would slow down to keep from lapping everyone.
It was so obvious and I lost a lot of respect.

I love NASCAR because of the invocation and the strong pro america stance but they will probaly blow it. I can live with them giving a advantage to one make of car now and then. That has been going on for some time and they cant get it perfect. Real strange how when they put restrictor plates on all the carbs DEI blows everyone away.
18 posted on 04/17/2003 6:18:55 PM PDT by winodog (The problem is sin. The solution is Christ.)
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To: uvular
"...a program that will expose minority youths in Philadelphia to auto racing."

Just have Philly take down all speed limit signs...

19 posted on 04/17/2003 6:21:13 PM PDT by Libloather (And it STILL isn’t safe enough to vote DemocRAT…)
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To: winodog
DITTO BUMP
20 posted on 04/17/2003 6:21:24 PM PDT by jawstenn1
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To: pnz1
Thanks. :-)

Je$$e and the Rainbow PUtScH Coalition have been doing this kind of stuff for years in many sports leagues.

21 posted on 04/17/2003 6:22:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic.. God Bless America!!!)
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To: Libloather
Ha! Would probably work, but don't think the fine folks in Philly would agree.

How much do you suppose that program, the internship program, and the diversity council costs NASCAR on top of the $100K?

22 posted on 04/17/2003 6:26:49 PM PDT by uvular (Something stinks, and it's not the litterbox)
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To: winodog
Forgot about the yellow line and didn't think of the Daytona victory (as you say, blatant) until after I posted.

Don't forget Jeff Gordon's "troubles" of late, now that he's "tainted" by divorce. He's won, what, one or two races since that news came out?

And how else can you explain hot young newcomers that are "energizing" the sport? (Kurt Busch, Jimmy Johnson, Kevin Harvick, etc, all of whom are in the top ten of points right now).
23 posted on 04/17/2003 6:27:03 PM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: NormsRevenge
Jessie figured that if they were called "race" cars, he should be involved.
24 posted on 04/17/2003 6:44:41 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: NormsRevenge
Amazing! Derrick Jackson of the Boston Globe blamed Nascar and it's fans for the war ( the U.S.'s waste of oil etc.)in his ridiculous column.He specifically singled out Nascar.

I'll bet if the racist Derrick J knew that the racist Jesse J had put his hands out for $$$$ from Nascar he wouldn't have written his dumb article.
25 posted on 04/17/2003 6:46:28 PM PDT by Mears
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To: NormsRevenge
$100,000 is what someone on the NASCAR message board claims.
26 posted on 04/17/2003 6:47:00 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: caisson71
Only if it has the "Gold Package!"
27 posted on 04/17/2003 6:48:56 PM PDT by Lincolnland1
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To: freedomcrusader
I hate to think they do that much manipulating.
28 posted on 04/17/2003 6:50:10 PM PDT by winodog (The problem is sin. The solution is Christ.)
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To: freedomcrusader
Don't forget Jeff Gordon's "troubles" of late, now that he's "tainted" by divorce. He's won, what, one or two races since that news came out? And how else can you explain hot young newcomers that are "energizing" the sport? (Kurt Busch, Jimmy Johnson, Kevin Harvick, etc, all of whom are in the top ten of points right now).

Yo! Be careful. Don't tarnish my boys past achievements. BTW, Winston Cup runs in spurts. Luck, both bad and good, play a huge roll. That, and pit stops. Gordon used to have a crew (the rainbow warriors) that were head & shoulders better than everyone else. They were doing stops in 16-17 second range, while others were 19+. Then some of the rainbow warriors spit and went with Jarrett, who won the title. Now, Matt Kenseth's crew is ripping off 13.4's and 13.5's routinely, and he's the points leader. Its more than a coinkidink.

29 posted on 04/17/2003 6:50:26 PM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: NormsRevenge
NASCAR Asked to End Jesse Jackson Support;
NASCAR Supports Troops But Bankrolls Anti-War Jackson

30 posted on 04/17/2003 6:55:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: NormsRevenge
APPEALING TO NASCAR

What does the Rev. Jesse Jackson and his outspoken stance against the Iraq war have to do with NASCAR?

On the heels of Dale Earnhardt Jr. steering his way to a fourth straight victory at Talladega on Sunday, NASCAR Chief Executive Officer William C. France is being asked that NASCAR "cease and desist from further support for Jesse Jackson and/or his nonprofit organizations" as U.S. troops are engaged in combat in Iraq.

"You have stated that NASCAR fans are 'the kind of people who go to war and win wars' for America," Peter Flaherty, president of the National Legal and Policy Center in Washington, writes to France, reminding him that branches of the armed services and National Guard maintain important NASCAR sponsorships.

"NASCAR's support for our troops is undercut by your support for Jackson, which includes substantial monetary contributions at a time when Jackson is leading anti-war protests, even in foreign countries.

"Disturbingly, Jackson has employed extreme and provocative anti-American rhetoric."

Flaherty says NASCAR, among other contributions to the Jackson empire, was a "Platinum" sponsor last year of the Rainbow/PUSH and Citizenship Education Fund Annual Conference, forking more than $100,000 in car-racing money for the distinction.

31 posted on 04/17/2003 6:56:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jawstenn1
I can imagine Jesse he be wantin a two lap "head start" for da bros who be driven a race car in NASCAR events. You know how it be.

It is inconceivable how the shakedown artist just keeps getting away with his extortion.

Meanwhile, the France family (NASCAR) better not start screwing around with this race BS, because the fans will absolutely not put up with it.

If a bro wants to drive a car, and qualify, that is fine, but the shakedown artist can go pound sand.

32 posted on 04/17/2003 6:58:29 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: kcvl
http://www.frontstretch.com/michelsen/030414.htm

Not related to JJ, but I thought it was funny..
33 posted on 04/17/2003 6:59:46 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: NormsRevenge
For Immediate Release May 24, 1999
NASCAR'S FRANCE, CART'S CRAIG TO PARTICIPATE
IN RAINBOW SPORTS CONFERENCE

Two of auto racing's top executives - Brian France of NASCAR and Andrew Craig of CART - have agreed to participate in a national sports conference June 30-July 1, 1999 in Washington, DC that will include a focus on minority inclusion in motorsports.

France is vice president for marketing for NASCAR, motorsports' largest sanctioning body, while Craig is president of CART, another large sanctioning body. Motorsports have come under considerably scrutiny lately because of accusations that minorities are excluded from participation.

"We want to change both the perception and reality of motorsports," said Reverend Jesse L. Jackson about the July 1 session that will also include Willy T. Ribbs, the only black to ever race in the Indianapolis 500; Dierdra Girardeau, head of the motorsports division at Walt Disney World; and Chris Lencheski, head of Chesapeake Motor Sports Development Corp.
"This is intended to open dialogue for inclusion and is not intended to be confrontational or adversarial," Jackson added. "We want constructive engagement, not destructive rhetoric. Minority inclusion is good for business. Jackie Robinson made baseball better, not worse, because he expanded the fan base, expanded the popularity of baseball, created new markets and inspired new talent that continue to regenerate baseball. The same thing can and should happen in motorsports."

There will also be the announcement of a major initiative for minority inclusion in motorsports, said Charles S. Farrell, director of Rainbow Sports, a division of the Rainbow/PUSH Wall Street Project that is putting on the conference. "The initiative, which will have the support and backing of the auto industry as well as major sponsors of motorsports, will change minority participation," Farrell said. "Part of the initiative will be a program aimed at educating the minority community about the myriad of opportunities within motorsports. We want to challenge our youth to become not only drivers, but mechanics, car designers, racetrack owners and operators, you name it. "This is a rapidly expanding part of the sports industry and the doors of inclusion must be opened."

The motorsports session is part of a national sports conference, ìSports in the New Millennium.î The conference, which coincides with the NBA draft, will include reports on the status of minorities in professional sports as well as other workshops on Technology and Telecommunications, Women and Sports, Getting Ahead in the Sports Industry, The Role of the Media, and Sports Merchandising, Licensing and Manufacturing.

The conference will also include a national forum on NCAA academic standards in the wake of a federal court decision that struck down the associationís freshman eligibility standards as biased and discriminatory. A federal appeals court has granted the NCAAís request for a stay of the lower court ruling in order for the association to develop new academic standards for implementation as early as Sept. 1.

34 posted on 04/17/2003 7:03:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: uvular
January 27, 2001

NASCAR - JESSE JACKSON AND DR PEPPER TO BACK BLACK DRIVER

The Rev. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition and Dr. Pepper will sponsor a NASCAR Weekly Racing Series team this season featuring a black owner and black driver. Morty Buckles, of Stone Mountain, Ga., will drive a Pontiac for Philadelphia-based Miller Racing Group, the team said Friday. This team will race out of Concord, N.C. In an announcement which was part of the fourth annual Wall Street Project Conference in New York, the companies said they would work together to develop minority NASCAR drivers. The NASCAR Weekly Racing Series consists of about 100 tracks throughout the country, divided into 10 geographic regions.
35 posted on 04/17/2003 7:07:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
It;s a lot more then $100K. I believe at least $500K or more. I'll see if anyone else can confirm the figures or If I can find it I will post. It was no small amount of money and effort being spent to placate the PUSHy people.
36 posted on 04/17/2003 7:07:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic.. God Bless America!!!)
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To: winodog
You left out the part where he passed below the yellow line which sends everyone else down a lap. But the one that got me was when he won the race his dad died in.

Huh? I thought Michael won that race. What do I know, I'm just a chick....

Cheers, CC ;-)

(Going back to my girlie threads, now....)

37 posted on 04/17/2003 7:08:54 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: NormsRevenge
Among the 2001 benefactors of the 20-year-old education fund who were at one time either threatened with boycotts by or were "in discussion with" Mr. Jackson were AT&T ($300,000), Burger King ($100,000), Coca Cola ($50,000), McDonald's ($100,000), NASCAR ($150,000), SBC Communications ($152,950) and United Parcel Service ($55,000).

The Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, which is not tax exempt, reported 2001 revenue of $5.2 million, about the same as in 2000. Its income includes $1.1 million in contributions in 2001, down from $1.3 million in 2000. The source of donations to for-profit corporations is not subject to tax-disclosure laws.
38 posted on 04/17/2003 7:09:55 PM PDT by kcvl
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39 posted on 04/17/2003 7:11:49 PM PDT by mhking
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To: pnz1
July 18, 1999


More Diversity From Nascar

Jesse Jackson's initiatives to increase minority inclusion in professional American sports was furthered by leaders from two top auto racing organizations, NASCAR and CART, who agreed to work harder to diversify this $5 billion-a-year industry. Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. Bob Kersee have formed a partnership with Roehrig Motorsports, and the team plans to compete next season in Winston Cup. Representatives from NASCAR said their goal is to "increase the number of racing enthusiasts to the broadest possible audience." Nascar is currently planning to form a diversity council to help address the needs of minority divers, mechanics and support staff. CART will begin work with a black North Carolina racing team, on a program to identify three black drivers to drive and train under CART experts and sponsors.


40 posted on 04/17/2003 7:13:20 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: NormsRevenge
HEY. NASCAR should race the BATMOBILE! That was one FAST BLACK CAR! Would that make him happy? I could be talkin out my A$$,but im in good company with 'ol Jester Jackson.
41 posted on 04/17/2003 7:14:11 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ... coincidence?)
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To: CheneyChick
I should have said the year after but you knew that.

All the babes like jr.
42 posted on 04/17/2003 7:17:00 PM PDT by winodog (The problem is sin. The solution is Christ.)
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To: NormsRevenge

NASCAR: Drive for diversity
Louis Hillary Park
Scripps Howard News Service

As the Winston Cup roars into the new millennium with a six-year, $2.8 billion FOX/NBC television contract, NASCAR officials say they are eager to make Winston Cup racing "look more like America."
Sunday, however, when the green flag dropped on the Virginia 500 at Martinsville Speedway, no blacks or women were in the field.

"We welcome everybody," says Bill France Jr., the billionaire patriarch of the NASCAR empire. "But motorsports is different. Acquiring a sponsor is so important."

It's also so difficult because putting together a top-tier Winston Cup team can cost $10 million to $15 million a year. To bring an unproven driver onto the Winston Cup circuit and allow him - or her - the four to five years it might take to mature could mean an investment of $40 million to $75 million.

"The barrier really is more in obtaining sponsorship than finding drivers whom we think can drive," says Charles S. Farrell, director of Rainbow Sports, a division of the Rev. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition.

Yet emotional and historic barriers also remain.

In the infield by the hundreds on any given Winston Cup Sunday, the most visible remaining symbol of the Old South - the Confederate battle flag - snaps in the breeze, crackling with defiance.

"I've seen the Confederate flags flying, and it scares me," says Farrell. "It summons up a whole level of racism that is not comfortable for African-Americans."

NASCAR has prohibited the use of the flag on any of its licensed products, the trailers that sell those products, and on cars and on drivers' firesuits. But so far the International Speedway Corp., which also is owned by the France family, has declined to ban them from the 12 tracks in which it has an ownership stake.

NASCAR Diversity Manager Dora Taylor calls it a "freedom of speech issue."

Others say it is symbolic of the tightrope NASCAR is walking - racing to expand its fan base among minorities but not wanting to drive away the conservative, white, male, Southerner who always has been the backbone of the sport.

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Even though NASCAR has added 2 million black fans since 1999 (a 29 percent increase), according to a recent ESPN poll, the fan base remains about 76 percent white and 60 percent male.

Blacks comprise 8.9 percent of NASCAR's audience while Hispanics account for 8.6 percent, according to the poll.

Those demographics do not have would-be sponsors scurrying through garages in search of minority drivers or teams to back, especially in today's business climate, says Farrell.

"But black folks also use Tide and drink beer," he says, referencing two of the sport's major sponsors. "It's just a matter of marketing the sport to the minority community."

Farrell says NASCAR chic - in the form of jackets, T-shirt and caps - is making its way into inner-city neighborhoods, even though many of the kids "may not know Valvoline from Vaseline, but they like the look."

It is from those ranks that a pool of Winston Cup-capable drivers will have to emerge.

"This is a unique sport. You're not talking about just passing out some soccer balls," says four-time Winston Cup champion Jeff Gordon. "The only way to get more minorities involved in the sport, is to get them started younger."

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Bill Lester's father took him to his first auto race in 1969, at age 8.

Since then, "I've always been in love with cars," says Lester, 42, an Oakland, Calif., resident and the only African-American driving in any of NASCAR's major series - though it is at what is considered the sport's AA level, Craftsman Trucks.

"I'm here as a racecar driver. I'm here to win. But if I can open up some doors, good," says Lester, who did a lot winning in Sports Car Club of America races throughout the West before hooking up with Bobby Hamilton's Dodge Motorsports truck team in 2001.

Lester's best Craftsman finish to date was 11th last year in the O'Reilly 400K at Fort Worth. But his overall $264,766 in purses was good enough for a 17th-place ranking among Craftsman drivers. He finished 19th in Saturday's Advance Auto Parts 250 in Martinsville, Lester has finished in the top 20 in all four of this year's truck races. standings. In terms of diversity, things are improving in the sport, says Lester, who sits on the 28-member NASCAR Diversity Council.

The council - comprised of drivers, car owners, sponsors and NASCAR officials -meets several times a year "to discuss issues and create strategies that promote diversity throughout the motorsports industry," according to its NASCAR brochure.

"When I went to Talladega (Ala.) in the mid-'90s, I was very much an anomaly. Conversations stopped. Fingers pointed," remembers Lester, who holds an engineering degree from Cal-Berkeley. "NASCAR has come a long way. But there's a ways to go still."

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Goody's Dash Series driver Kelly "Girl" Sutton of Crownsville, Md., began racing at 19. Today, at 31, she is still working her way up the racing ladder the old fashioned way - one series at time - unlike drivers such as 19-year-old Brian Vickers, who was tapped for a ride in the AAA Busch series before he got out of high school.

"My main goal is to be successful in every series I go to," says Sutton. "I think that creates a certain level of comfort, then you take it to the next level."

Driving for the well-financed Team Copaxone in what might be considered NASCAR's instructional league, she finished 17th in the rain-shortened Goody's 150 earlier this year in Daytona and was 17th overall in 2002 Dash Series points.

A third-generation driver, Sutton says, "I would love to run Winston Cup ... (but) I know I'm not ready, as much as my heart would want to take the chance."

Whether she ever makes it onto auto racing's biggest stage, Sutton, a married mother of two, says her gender should have nothing to do with it.

"When we strap the helmet on, we're just like everyone else," says Sutton. "We're just racecar drivers."

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Former Miller Brewing Co. executive Sam Belnavis thinks the best is still ahead for him in NASCAR.

At 62, Belnavis, who is African-American, has teamed with long-time Winston Cup owner Travis Carter to form BelCar Racing. It is the first time a Winston Cup team has had a black majority partner.

BelCar is fielding the No. 54 Army National Guard Ford, driven by NASCAR veteran Todd Bodine.

The team's best finish so far this season has been 11th at the Samsung/Radio Shack 500 held March 30 at Texas Motor Speedway. Bodine finished 37th at last week's Virginia 500, adding $43,850 to the team's winnings, which total $756,655 for the year.

"I think minorities are a sleeping giant from the standpoint of a television audience for the sport," says Belnavis, who is no stranger to NASCAR. As head of sports marketing for Miller Brewing in the early 1980s, he brought the beer seller into NASCAR as a major sponsor.

Belnavis hopes BelCar can serve as a beacon for minorities interested in the sport, but he says the most important thing in Winston Cup is putting the sponsor's logo across the finish line first.

Having brought his daughters Cherise Belnavis-Johnson, 30, and Stacey Bobbins, 31, onto the team for public relations and administrative support, Belnavis says he is looking for long-term success in the sport, not just short-term headlines based on his skin color.

"If you look at the racing community at large, you'll see that it is very family driven," he says. "I want to leave something that will be beneficial for my family.

"I hope to leave this as a legacy for them."

- E-mail Louis Hillary Park at louis.park@scripps.com.

43 posted on 04/17/2003 7:18:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: winodog
All the babes like jr.

Last year I liked Kenny - cuz he had the M&M car (38)..... Don't have a fave this year, although am keeping an eye on #40 - but someone (like Jeffy) should warn him about those Winston Cup girls....

44 posted on 04/17/2003 7:22:53 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Blue Screen of Death
Now THAT is FUNNY!....."race" CARS for Jesse the race king.
45 posted on 04/17/2003 7:29:29 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We decide, then Report, IF we want you to know: CNN...the MOST TRUSTED in News, by CRIMINALS!)
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To: NormsRevenge; billbears; 4ConservativeJustices; aomagrat
The only diversity I need in NASCAR is Ford or Chevy.
46 posted on 04/17/2003 7:29:35 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Hey now, I'm driving a MOPAR truck so somebody better tell me who drives that brand that's good. Mind you, the man in the big brown truck is still my driver
47 posted on 04/17/2003 7:31:55 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Go Gordon; freedomcrusader
..."tainted" by divorce.

While Gordon's not my favorite (I do enjoy his road course driving), me thinks "keeping the ole' earnings down" until
the the final decree just may have something to do with it.

Jackson and NASCAR. Oh well, one less sport to pay attention to now.

If only the IRS would turn its scrutiny on Je$$e. I'm flabbergasted the Bent One didn't issue a blanket pardon to him.

BTB, I recall an old thread about the mafia influence in NASCAR when the Frances' took somewhat of a smaller role.

Bill France. I guess some people could stretch the boycott....

48 posted on 04/17/2003 7:32:14 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: kcvl
"I've seen the Confederate flags flying, and it scares me," says Farrell. "It summons up a whole level of racism that is not comfortable for African-Americans."

That's B.S. At the 500 last year, I was next to a black man and his family from South Carolina. He had an RV that cost more than my house with a great big Confederate Flag painted on both sides. He had a large screen tv that flipped out on the side of the trailer and we watched a good part of the race together.

49 posted on 04/17/2003 7:34:04 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner; billbears
The only diversity I need in NASCAR is Ford or Chevy.

I really wanted a Dodge (waiting on the Jeep), but after the Germans screwed up with their comments about conservatives, I bought a Ford instead.

PS. Jessee Jackson is a lying, thieving scumbag, and the blacks I know are repulsed by the adulterous leech.

50 posted on 04/17/2003 7:35:08 PM PDT by 4CJ (Margaritas ante Porcos)
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