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What Iranians have known about Jimmy Carter from the beginning
Freedom.org ^ | April 19, 2003 | Don Fife

Posted on 04/19/2003 12:08:44 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

A few days ago, I walked into a local small business owned by a naturalized American citizen who was from Iran. During our conversation, the owner asked me what I thought about the U.S. and Coalition forces invading Iraq.

I said that in my opinion Jimmy Carter and his State Department were totally responsible for this war, Iraq's slaughtering of its own citizens, and the tragic war with Iran.

The shop owner grabbed me and gave me a "bear-hug." He said that in his 20 years living in America, I was the only American who understood what Iranians have known about Jimmy Carter from the beginning.

He agreed with me that Jimmy Carter started the dominoes falling that eventually created the chaos that led to the present and recent wars in the Gulf.

Thousands of Iraqi citizens now fleeing the Gulf II War zone will join thousands of Iranians who fled during the "Reign of Terror" which the Ayatollah Khomeini unleashed after then-President Jimmy Carter decided to make a regime change by pulling U.S. support from the Shah of Iran. The Shah and his administration were suppressing Islamic fundamentalists who wanted to return Iran to the 7th century under Islamic law.

President Carter's advisors were out of touch with reality. Like Don Quixote, they raced in, without regard to reality, to vanquish the Shah and his attempt to modernize Iran.

The consulting company I worked for at that time sent their Iranian office manager and engineering staff to a technical symposium in Pasadena, CA. The staff from our Tehran office was not so concerned about the technical presentation as they were about the pending disaster that President Carter was about to create, since his State Department was removing all support for the Shah. After all, it was argued, the kindly religious leaders of Iran would install a peaceful socialist government and save the country from the upheaval of Westernization.

Our office manager, a Jordanian Christian, recommended that we cease soliciting contracts from the Shah's government because its days were numbered. He recommended finishing the existing construction jobs and moving the office to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He was worried we might not be paid for the existing work, and certain we would not be paid for any work done for a replacement government.

We had moved his family to Riyadh and also recommended that all other employees move there for their safety.

When the Shah fell, the Ayatollah Khomeini promised a welfare state that would outshine anything the Shah had done for Iran. Of course, his real objective was to use Iran as a launching pad for radical Islamic rule of the Middle East.

The Ayatollah unleashed a blood bath against his enemies. Americans in the Embassy were taken hostage for 444 days, and the economy of Iran plummeted into chaos.

As the Ayatollah encouraged radical Islamic uprisings in surrounding countries, we decided to contain Iran by using the dictator of Iraq, Saddam Hussein. We supplied him with a massive arms buildup, which apparently included chemical, and perhaps even biological, weapons.

The 15,000,000 Iraqis were outnumbered by the 43,000,000 Iranians; but with the weapons we supplied him, Saddam Hussein fought the Iranians to a stalemate. Millions were killed and wounded.

In the first Gulf War hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Kuwaitis were sacrificed by Saddam Hussein. The United Nations Coalition failed to consummate their victory over Saddam Hussein.

General Douglas MacArthur said it best: "There is no substitute for victory."

We naively thought that the Iraqis would rise up and depose their evil dictator. The majority of Iraq's provinces, with our encouragement, did revolt. However, the United Nations and the United States left these people without the needed military support, and Saddam Hussein annihilated them by the tens of thousands. Thousands of them were killed by poison gas.

Perhaps the most ironic twist in this whole affair is that Jimmy Carter was recently awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iranhistory; iraqhistory; iraqifreedom; jimmycarter; khomeini; prequel; shahofiran; southasia; southasialist; turass
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To: varon
It also points out the inherent dangers of a representative republic which makes it possible to elect a total nincompoop...

Sorry but the election of our Presidents are completely democratic (small "d"). That's part of the problem, with the other part being that we let everyone vote. As it was set up by our Founders, only land owners could vote as they were the ones that demonstrated some maturity and quality of thinking. They were the ones that paid the bills also.

The Senate and the Presidency were originally set up as a body and a man that were elected by our representives but that was abolished in favor of a popular vote as time went on. Just another example of our Founding Fathers knowing what the heck they were doing.

Be well...

21 posted on 04/19/2003 12:58:22 PM PDT by Wingy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Reminds me of what Homer Simpson said to Marge when she gave him a hard time for buying an old t-shirt that read "Ayatollah Assahola".

"But Marge, it works for all ayatollahs".
22 posted on 04/19/2003 1:01:14 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Never draw to an inside straight)
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To: *southasia_list
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
23 posted on 04/19/2003 1:05:03 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: fortress
So did Pol Pot.
24 posted on 04/19/2003 1:07:11 PM PDT by xp38
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To: lilylangtree
Arafat and Carter have both received Nobel Peace prizes. So my question is how many have to die before someone receives a Nobel Peace prize?
25 posted on 04/19/2003 1:13:21 PM PDT by salmon76
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
I think you're on to something.
26 posted on 04/19/2003 1:15:06 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Awesome Article!!!! Thanks!
27 posted on 04/19/2003 1:18:26 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: Tailgunner Joe
President Carter also "demilitarized" our nuclear programs in 1977, creating the Dept of Energy, opening the way for every "Tom, Dick, and Harry" country to go nuclear, and is one of the root causes of current nuclear proliferation. So the guy who makes it possible for terrorists to get nuclear weapons gets the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm sorry, stupid is as stupid does. Regards.
28 posted on 04/19/2003 1:20:06 PM PDT by noname
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To: Tailgunner Joe
He agreed with me that Jimmy Carter started the dominoes falling that eventually created the chaos that led to the present and recent wars in the Gulf.

And now we're going be dealing with further chaos compounded by Bubba's incoherent "foreign policy" for the next 20 years. Those who live on the West coast in range of N. Korean/Chinese missiles may not be so lucky.

The United States, much less the world can hardly survive yet another Democratic President who assuredly will screw up the safety and security for ALL of us -- though liberals will find solace in women being able to play golf in the men's Masters, the darter snail's bright future, and unaffected abortions -- all taking place behind a backdrop of an occassional mushroom cloud....

INVEST NOW -- The only real estate appreciation in those coming years will be tunnels, caves, vacant missile silos, and underground bomb-shelters.

29 posted on 04/19/2003 1:23:24 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: xp38
So did Uncle Ho and Karl Marx
30 posted on 04/19/2003 1:33:55 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: george wythe
"Nice Person, Bad Politician = Jimmy Carter"

I wouldn't call a traitor of our country a nice person. His ,"NICE", is only a front. He is very transparent.

31 posted on 04/19/2003 1:34:43 PM PDT by auggy
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To: george wythe
I have to ask....what is so nice about him......think hard LOL
32 posted on 04/19/2003 1:38:57 PM PDT by alisasny
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To: Tailgunner Joe
What a lot of folks have either forgotten or didn´t get the word, the Shah was allowed into the Republic of Panama, but he had to pay a $12,000,000 bribe. Yes, you read that right. He was dying of cancer at that time, and we treated him at Gorgas Hospital (ex-Canal Zone U.S. hospital). Of course it was all top secret except there are no secrets in this small country. I was working there at the time. And no, I did not see him, but suddenly all doctors on the case were wearing ID badges, but the word was out. He had an entire floor. It was a part of the hospital that had been closed for several years (Ward 10). One afternoon as I was looking up, as I did several time a day in my goings and comings, somebody quickly closed the curtains.
33 posted on 04/19/2003 2:04:50 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Jimmy Carter: "Useful Idiot" or "Traitor"?

"[Marshall Tito] is a man who believes in human rights.
[He is] a great and courageous leader [who] has led his people
and protected their freedom almost for the last 40 years."

-- Carter, while still in office, hailing Yugoslavia's communist dictator

"Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and
politics ... We believe in enhancing human rights."

-- Carter comparing himself to Romania's dictator Nicolae Ceausescu

"Our concept of human rights is preserved in [Communist] Poland."
-- Carter speaking to Stalinist Edward Gierek, Poland's First Secretary

"[I am] ashamed of what my country has done to your country."
-- Carter speaking to Haitian dictator Lt. Gen. Raoul Cedras

"I don't see that they [the North Koreans] are an outlaw nation."
-- Carter in North Korea, lauding Stalinist Kim Il Sung,
   one of the most destructive and repressive dictators in history

"Ill-informed commentators in both countries have cast the other side
as a villain and have even forecast inevitable confrontation
between the two nations."

-- Carter making exquisite moral equivalence between the giant and
   repressive Chinese Communist state and America

Carter gave away US oversight of the Panama Canal, "the most
important waterway in the world," says Adm. Thomas H. Moorer (ret),
which is now "packed with Chinese communists."

Sadat, appalled that Carter wanted the Soviets in on Middle East peace
negotiations, decided to directly offer peace to Israel's Begin. When
their plan was essentially worked out, they then called the White House,
because obviously, "they needed someone to pay the bill" (Bernard Lewis).

Not resting on his laurels, Carter demanded the Shah of Iran step down
and turn over power to the Ayatollah Khomeini, an Islamic madman. Carter
had the Pentagon tell the Shah's top military commanders - about 150 of
them - to acquiesce to the Ayatollah and not fight him. The Shah's
military listened to Carter. ALL OF THEM were murdered in one of the
Ayatollah's first acts. By allowing the Shah to fall, Carter created one
of the most militant anti-American dictatorships ever. Soon the new Iranian
government was ransacking our embassy and held hostage its staff for over
a year. More than 20,000 pro-Western Iranians were put before firing
squads. With the Shah gone, the whole region was destabilized.

Iraq took advantage of the Shah's departure to invade Iran, a war that
killed more than 500,000 people. It also created the regional instabilities
that led to Iraq’s later invasion of Kuwait and to Operation Desert Storm,
which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands more. But Carter meant well.

In the closing days of the 1980 election, Carter's White House contacted
the Soviets in a quid pro quo to plead for assistance in stopping Reagan
from winning. In 1984, Carter himself visited Soviet Ambassador Dobrynin
to ask the Soviets to intervene on behalf of Democrats. Damning evidence
that Jimmy Carter, as both president and citizen, may have committed treason
by enlisting the help of our enemies in presidential elections.

Since leaving office, Carter has:
- praised Syria's late Assad (killer of at least 20,000 in Hama)
- praised Ethiopian tyrant Mengistu (killer of many more than that)
- secured Saudi funding for Arafat after he sided with Iraq against the US
- wrote the UN Security Council after Iraq invaded Kuwait, urging them
to thwart President Bush's pre-Gulf War coalition (designed to reverse
that act of aggression) - another action some called "treason"

"Our people, who face Israeli bullets, have no weapons: only a few stones
remaining when our homes are destroyed by Israeli bulldozers."

-- from a speech written by Carter for Yassir Arafat

"[Arafat's] election [was] democratic, well organized, open and fair."
-- Carter describing the "rigged" 1996 Palestinian election

"[Arafat] may well see the suicide attacks as one of the few ways
to retaliate against his tormentors, to dramatize the suffering of
his people, or as a means for him, vicariously, to be a martyr."

-- Carter in an apologia for the Pali homicide-bombings

And yet, with the blood of perhaps a million people dripping from his hands,
Carter stalked the earth in his sick quest to be given a Nobel Peace Prize.

If he had any moral center at all, he would return his recent peace prize.

Carter is the smiley face of evil.

R E F E R E N C E S:

Jimmy Carter: America basher
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20020515.shtml

Carter: Cuba Terror Claims False
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682807/posts

There He Goes Again
http://www.nationalreview.com/20may02/nordlinger052002.asp

You Didn’t Ask for It, You Got It: Carterpalooza!
http://www.nationalreview.com/impromptus/impromptus050302.asp

Carter & Castro
http://www.frontpagemag.com/columnists/ponte05-08-02.htm

Jimmy Carter’s Trail of Disaster
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/12/164726.shtml

'Idiotic' Carter Castro's Dupe
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/15/202903.shtml

Carter, Democrats Asked Soviets to Stop Reagan
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/10/16/214040


34 posted on 04/19/2003 2:06:57 PM PDT by polemikos
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To: edskid
" or simply a very committed socialist"

I vote for this option as well.

35 posted on 04/19/2003 2:08:52 PM PDT by Sam Cree (You fight gravity with levity)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The Shah and his administration were suppressing Islamic fundamentalists who wanted to return Iran to the 7th century under Islamic law.

That battle had been going on for a long time. In his book "The Hard Awakening", Dehqani-Tafti describes it in the early 60s. It changed, though, when the Islamic militants joined forces with the Left (socialists and communists) in the early 70s. Then they had the force necessary to push the Shah into real repression, causing him to lose support among the people. (There was a battle for control after the revolution, and, of course, the Islamists won.)

36 posted on 04/19/2003 2:12:50 PM PDT by Eala (irrelevant (î-rèl´e-vent) 1: The United Nations 2: France 3: CNN 4: Tim Robbins 5: PBS)
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To: george wythe
I used to think he was a nice person. Now a see a petty, self-centered sanctimonious scold.
37 posted on 04/19/2003 2:18:44 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'm not so sure I agree. The Islamic revolution was going to happen regardless of the US supporting the Shah.
The Shah's days were numbered no matter how you looked at it. (He was terminally ill, died in 1980).
I'm thinking the only way it might have been stopped, was with a US military presence and that wasn't going to happen in 1979, so close to the end of VietNam.
38 posted on 04/19/2003 2:27:07 PM PDT by stylin19a (oh to die peacefully in my sleep like my uncle-not screaming in terror like his taxi passengers)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
With what looks like the first possible democratic government in the Arab world in Iraq, that little problem may have been swept under the rug for a while. (Or until Syria finally shoves enough of the foot in the mouth) so we only have to deal with the so successful Carter brokered arms agreement with North Korea in 1994 that Bill took credit for,i.e....We'll stop with the plutonium if you give us uranium and the way to process it instead. (And ultimately the MRV tracking system to target it by way of China)
39 posted on 04/19/2003 2:51:04 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Perhaps the most ironic twist in this whole affair is that Jimmy Carter was recently awarded the Nobel Peace Prize."

There is NO irony is all of this, because the Nobel "Peace" Prize iwas set up by one who wanted to use his money that he had make from selling dynamite to jump start a one-world government. And Jimmy "the peanut" Carter is like Bill "the rapist" Clinton, and all the rest are there for the one-world. Not for the US or for Freedom or Democracy.
40 posted on 04/19/2003 2:58:23 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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