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Expulsion of the Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina 1992-1995
Hans Koschnik ^ | August 1999

Posted on 04/20/2003 6:33:09 AM PDT by Karadjordje

Place: Velika Kladuska, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 2,266 35
Bosnian Muslims 48,408 50,544
Bosnian Croats 740 190
other ethnic groups - -

Total 52,908 50,769

(1) Census 1991, according to UNHCR Population Figures from Febraury 14, 1997.

(2) According to UNHCR Population Figures from Febraury 14, 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/velika/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Domaljevac Samac, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1999 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 13,628 278
Bosnian Muslims 2,223 140
Bosnian Croats 14,731 6,540
other ethnic groups 2,368 60

Total 32,950 7,018

(1) Census 1991, according to UNHCR Population Figures from February 14, 1997.

(2) According to UNHCR Population Figures from Febraury 14, 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/domaljevac_samac/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Odzak, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 6,084 3
Bosnian Muslims 6,229 5,220
Bosnian Croats 16,229 11,121
other ethnic groups 1,740 -

Total 30,282 16,344

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of ODZAK, July 1998; Republik Österreich - BKA IV/12, Koordinationsbüro Sarajevo, Stand 1996.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/odzak/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Orasje, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1999 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 4,235 150
Bosnian Muslims 1,893 2,245
Bosnian Croats 21,308 22,619
other ethnic groups 931 -

Total 28,367 25,014

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of ORASJE, February 1999.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/orasje/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Banovici, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 4,520 409
Bosnian Muslims 19,144 29,391
Bosnian Croats 531 566
other ethnic groups 2,393 212

Total 26,588 30,578

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of BANOVICI, November 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/banovici/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Kalesija, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1999 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 7,669 10
Bosnian Muslims 33,226 35,342
Bosnian Croats 33 2
other ethnic groups 867 -

Total 41,795 35,354

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of KALESIJA, Juli 1999.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/kalesija/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Kladanj, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 3,846 179
Bosnian Muslims 11,702 22,722
Bosnian Croats 12 -
other ethnic groups 480 -

Total 16,040 22,934

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government; ECMM, Background Report KLADANJ 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/kladanj/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Lukavac, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 12,281 296
Bosnian Muslims 37,866 47,601
Bosnian Croats 2,132 1,504
other ethnic groups 3,531 234

Total 56,830 49,635

(1) Census 1991.

(2) UNHCR / RIC, Municipality Information Fact Sheet LUKAVAC, July 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/lukavac/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Srebrenik, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 5,326 348
Bosnian Muslims 30,595 44,734
Bosnian Croats 2,761 2,508
other ethnic groups 2,200 348

Total 40,882 47,938

(1) RIC, MIFS 1998.

(2) TUZLA-PODRINJE KANTON, Ministerium für Arbeit, Soziales und Flüchtlinge, März 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/srebrenik/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Zivinice, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 3,350 606
Bosnian Muslims 44,580 65,202
Bosnian Croats 3,870 3,395
other ethnic groups 2,800 348

Total 54,600 69,551

(1) Census 1991

(2) SFOR, Population Data, October 1997 und DRC, Repatriation Project Information on the Municipality of ZIVINICE, June 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/zivinice/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Breza, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 2,122 243
Bosnian Muslims 13,079 13,646
Bosnian Croats 851 521
other ethnic groups 1,265 163

Total 17,317 14,573

(1) Census 1991.

(2) UNHCR SARAJEVO: Assessment Report Federation BREZA, June 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/breza/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Kakanj, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 4,915 500
Bosnian Muslims 30,450 35,000
Bosnian Croats 16,645 4,500
other ethnic groups 3,850 250

Total 55,850 45,868

(1) Census 1991.

(2) OHR, 01,06,1998; Return Plan; Zenicko-Dobojski Kanton, January 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/kakanj_update/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Maglaj, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 13,298 164
Bosnian Muslims 19,637 21,238
Bosnian Croats 8,366 6,500
other ethnic groups 1,993 -

Total 43,294 28,000

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of MAGLAJ, July 1998; Republik Österreich - BKA IV/12, Koordinationsbüro Sarajevo, Stand 1996.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/maglaj/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Olovo, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 3,193 45
Bosnian Muslims 12,699 14,555
Bosnian Croats 642 550
other ethnic groups 422 164

Total 16,956 15,150

(1) Census 1991.

(2) UNHCR/RIC, Repatriation Information Report, March 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/olovo/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Vares, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 3,630 56
Bosnian Muslims 6,721 9,700
Bosnian Croats 8,982 3,500
other ethnic groups 2,781 37

Total 22,114 13,293

(1) Census 1991

(2) Figures provided by the local government, September 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/vares/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Visoko, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 7,471 700
Bosnian Muslims 34,373 44,277
Bosnian Croats 1,872 500
other ethnic groups 2,444 2,000

Total 46,160 47,477

(1) Census 1991

(2) UNHCR Updated Assessment Report, June 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/visoko/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Zavidovici, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 11,640 618
Bosnian Muslims 34,198 35,073
Bosnian Croats 7,576 1,013
other ethnic groups 3,750 200

Total 57,164 36,904

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of ZAVIDOVICI, November 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/zavidovici/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Zenica, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 22,552 3,528
Bosnian Muslims 80,281 104,575
Bosnian Croats 22,626 10,405
other ethnic groups 19,900 1,528

Total 145,359 120,036

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of ZENICA, September 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/zenica/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Foca (FBuH), Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 1,315 7
Bosnian Muslims 4,270 2,479
Bosnian Croats - -
other ethnic groups - -

Total 5,585 2,486

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government, December 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/foca_fbuh/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Praca, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 1,062 -
Bosnian Muslims 2,160 1,284
Bosnian Croats 2 -
other ethnic groups - -

Total 3,224 1,284

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of PRACA, October 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/praca/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Bugojno, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 8,854 400
Bosnian Muslims 19,724 28,474
Bosnian Croats 15,963 2,200
other ethnic groups 2,302 -

Total 46,843 31,074

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of BUGOJNO, November 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/bugonjo/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Donji Vakuf, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1999 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 9,533 47
Bosnian Muslims 13,509 12,740
Bosnian Croats 682 66
other ethnic groups 820 66

Total 24,544 12,853

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of DONJI VAKUF, March 1999.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/donjvakuf_update/kap02.htm




Place: Novi Travnik, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 4,097 879
Bosnian Muslims 11,649 12,469
Bosnian Croats 12,127 16,907
other ethnic groups 2,829 29

Total 30,702 30,284

(1) Census 1991.

(2) ECMM, Background Report NOVI TRAVNIK, 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/novi_travnik/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Travnik, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 7,777 539
Bosnian Muslims 31,813 48,861
Bosnian Croats 26,118 9,144
other ethnic groups 5,039 823

Total 70,747 59,367

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local Croatian-Muslim government of NOVA BILA.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/travnik/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Caplina, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 3,793 596
Bosnian Muslims 7,553 596
Bosnian Croats 15,001 28,108
other ethnic groups

Total 27,882 29,300

(1) Census 1991.

(2) UNHCR MOSTAR, CAPLJINA update, October 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/caplina_update/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Kalesija, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1999 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 7,669 10
Bosnian Muslims 33,226 35,342
Bosnian Croats 33 2
other ethnic groups 867 -

Total 41,795 35,354

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of KALESIJA, July 1999.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/kalesija/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Mostar, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 9,500 1,992
Bosnian Muslims 10,266 7,203
Bosnian Croats 33,500 47,255
other ethnic groups 8,175 793

Total 61,441 57,243

(1) Census 1991.

(2) UNHCR, August 31, 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/mostar/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Mostar Sjever, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1999 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 5,041 20
Bosnian Muslims 6,358 10,897
Bosnian Croats 2,248 26
other ethnic groups 460 2

Total 14,107 10,945

(1) Repatriation Information Center, Municipality Information Fact Sheet (MIFS): MOSTAR-NORTH, Stand Oktober 1998.

(2) Figures provided by the local government, May 1999.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/mostar_sjever/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Ravno, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1999 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 621 -
Bosnian Muslims 32 8
Bosnian Croats 2,274 1,256
other ethnic groups 30 -

Total 2,957 1,264

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government, Juni 1999.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/ravno_update/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Stolac, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 3,900 120
Bosnian Muslims 7,500 900
Bosnian Croats 6,400 11,000
other ethnic groups 500 30

Total 18,300 12,050

(1) Figures provided by the local government of STOLAC.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of STOLAC, July 1998; IMG.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/stolac_update/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Centar Sarajevo, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 16,622 6,325
Bosnian Muslims 39,685 57,933
Bosnian Croats 5,411 4,922
other ethnic groups 17,287 2,044

Total 79,005 71,224

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of SARAJEVO, April 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/centar/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Hadzici, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 6,391 650
Bosnian Muslims 15,399 18,530
Bosnian Croats 743 450
other ethnic groups 1,662 370

Total 24,195 20,000

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the mayor of HADZICI, July 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/hadzici/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Ilidza, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 25,061 3,394
Bosnian Muslims 28,973 33,458
Bosnian Croats 6,914 2,856
other ethnic groups 6,490 -

Total 67,438 39,708

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government, July 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/ilidza/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Ilijas, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 11,325 425
Bosnian Muslims 10,585 12,372
Bosnian Croats 1,736 480
other ethnic groups 1,538 120

Total 25,184 13,397

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of ILIJAS, April 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/ilijas/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Novi Grad, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 37,736 3,220
Bosnian Muslims 69,294 80,334
Bosnian Croats 8,883 3,898
other ethnic groups 20,380 3,447

Total 136,293 90,899

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of Novi Grad, 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/novi/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Stari Grad, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 5,178 1,412
Bosnian Muslims 39,498 37,524
Bosnian Croats 1,315 3,262
other ethnic groups 4,753 764

Total 50,744 42,962

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of SARAJEVO, April 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/stari/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Vogosca, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 8,843 467
Bosnian Muslims 12,549 15,929
Bosnian Croats 1,074 293
other ethnic groups 2,241 70

Total 24,707 16,759

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government, August 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/vogosca/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Bosansko Grahovo, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 7888 150
Bosnian Muslims 12 0
Bosnian Croats 226 220
other ethnic groups 185 0

Total 8311 370

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government, 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/bosansko/index-bosansko.htm




Place: Drvar (FBuH) & Drvar (RS), Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 16,613 2,100
Bosnian Muslims 33 10
Bosnian Croats 34 8,000
other ethnic groups 399 43

Total 17,079 10,100

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by Special Representative (OHR) on DRVAR and by the UNHCR, Januar 1999.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/drvar/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Glamoc, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 9,951 75
Bosnian Muslims 2,257 680
Bosnian Croats 184 3,501
other ethnic groups 201 -

Total 12,593 4,256

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of GLAMOC, Oktober 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/glamoc/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Kupres, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1996 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 4,905 0
Bosnian Muslims 769 250
Bosnian Croats 3,848 2,150
other ethnic groups 96 4

Total 9,618 2,500

(1) Census 1991.

(2) OHR, 1996.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/kupres/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Livno, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 3,782 200
Bosnian Muslims 5,927 3,200
Bosnian Croats 28,456 28,456
other ethnic groups 1,361 0

Total 39,526 39,400

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of LIVNO, Oktober 1998.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/livno/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Tomislavgrad, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1997 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 576 0
Bosnian Muslims 3,148 2,500
Bosnian Croats 25,976 24,165
other ethnic groups 309 833

Total 30,009 27,498

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government of TOMISLAVGRAD, Dezember 1997.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/tomislavgrad/bevoelkerung.htm




Place: Bosanska Krupa, Bosnia


Ethnicity 1991 (1) 1998 (2)

Bosnian Serbs 13,129 75
Bosnian Muslims 22,281 23,673
Bosnian Croats 116 41
other ethnic groups 1,064 567

Total 36,609 24,356

(1) Census 1991.

(2) Figures provided by the local government.

http://www.bbs.bund.de/krupa/bevoelkerung.htm




Hans Koschnik, Beauftragter der Deutschen Bundesregierung für Flüchtlingsrückkehr, Wiedereingliederung und rückkehrbegleitenden Wiederaufbau in Bosnien und Herzegowina (<- click)

(Homepage of Hans Koschnik, commissary of the German government for the return of the refugees in Bosnia)

Karadjordje


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; campaignfinance; ethniccleansing; serbs; stats
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1 posted on 04/20/2003 6:33:09 AM PDT by Karadjordje
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To: Karadjordje
Kiss my grits. Every one of these opstinas is within the 'Federation of Bosnia-Herzegovina.' How about the population levels in those opstinas under the control of the racist Srpska entity?

And most of the Serbs weren't 'expelled,' they mostly fled, when their local eqivalent of Arkan's Tigers failed to execute enough of their non-Serb neighbors to their satisfaction. Attempted genocide tends to tick off the victims, donchaknow.
2 posted on 04/20/2003 8:03:41 AM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Then show me what you mean, here is the list (<- click) of Hans Koschnik's homepage (go to "Bevölkerung")

Happy Eastern.

Karadjordje

3 posted on 04/20/2003 8:30:42 AM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"And most of the Serbs weren't 'expelled,' they mostly fled, when their local eqivalent of Arkan's Tigers failed to execute enough of their non-Serb neighbors to their satisfaction. Attempted genocide tends to tick off the victims, donchaknow."

Should someone sound different if he was hanging around almost the entire Bosnia Mission in cleansed Muslim (pure Muslim) towns -- hearing every day the evil, bad, muslimchildeating WorldSerbenTum in the Bosnian Muslim VOLKSEMPFÄNGER?
And one day leaving my pure Muslim town to visit the weird Serbian towns and to see tenthousands of angry but cleansed, of Mujas axes and bombs crippled, of whom their relatives were killed Serbs -- to point with the finger at them and to say - oohh --- look how angry and evil the Serb subhuman race is -- ooohh...

Even commissary of the German government Muslim supporter Hans Koschnik writes in this online documentary that these Serbian civilans (woman, children, old men) were ethnicaly cleansed ("Vertriebene") -- whole villages were depopulated -- by your "I-am-always-innocent" Bosnian Muslims and Croats. I could report abuse, but I think the others should see your grimace -- have the Fascist ever shown shame when they were extermianting 6,000,000 Jews in Europe or 1,200,000 Serbs in the Balkans?

Yes -- right answer.

Karadjordje

4 posted on 04/20/2003 11:33:03 AM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
Hey, there, Djordjie, lighten up. It's not like anything you said is true or anything. We understand. Losing a war really sucks, particularly when you started it. If you need to cry on our shoulders, please, go ahead. That's what peacekeeping's all about.
5 posted on 04/20/2003 12:19:57 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"... particularly when you started it."

"...AS SEEN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE MAJORITY WORLD CHRONICLES

November 1997
BOSNIA Recently released secret documents reveal that in the first days of the war, Muslim paramilitary leaders murdered scores of Bosnian Serb civilians in Sarajevo."

http://www.newint.org/chronicle/CRONIC.HTM


But before...

"[...] The upbringing of the nation, and especially the mass media - the press, TV and film - should be in the hands of people whose Islamic moral and intellectual authority is undisputed. [...]"

Izetbegovic, Alija, "Islamska deklaracija", Sarajevo, 1990, p. 32.


"[...] Islamic order may be implemented only in countries where Muslims represent the majority of the population. Without this majority, the Islamic order is reduced to authority only (because the other element is lacking - the Islamic society), and may turn into violence. [...]"

Izetbegovic, Alija, "Islamska deklaracija", Sarajevo, 1990, p. 37.


"[...] the Islamic movement should and must start taking over the power as soon as it is morally and numerically strong enough to not only overthrow the existing non-Islamic, but also to build up a new Islamic authority. [...]"

Izetbegovic, Alija, "Islamska deklaracija", Sarajevo, 1990, p. 43.


"[...] The first and foremost of such conclusions is surely the one on the incompatibility of Islam and non- Islamic systems. There can be no peace or coexistence between the 'Islamic faith' and non- Islamic societies and political institutions. [...] Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf. Therefore, there is no question of any laicistic principles, and the state should be an expression and should support the moral concepts of the religion. [...]"

Izetbegovic, Alija, "Islamska deklaracija", Sarajevo, 1990, p. 22.


In 1970 former Nazi collaborator Alija Izetbegovic wrote this book and in 1983 he was sentenced for 13 years by a Yugoslav Communist court for this.

In 1990 this Bosnian Muslim version of "Mein Kampf" was reprinted in Sarajevo.

Karadjordje

6 posted on 04/20/2003 12:54:17 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
In 1990 this Bosnian Muslim version of "Mein Kampf" was reprinted in Sarajevo>>

Right. And in 1985 Biljana Plavsic published a PhD thesis that argued that Bosnian Muslims were not human beings, and genetically inferior to pure Serbs.

Who started the war? Hmmn. In May 1992, a bunch of gangsters called "Arkan's Tigers" invaded a town called Bijeljina in the northeast of the country and disappropriated the majority who lived in the town, driving them out. Question: What was the nationality of Arkan's Tigers? What was the nationality of the 'cleansed'? You only get one guess each. Ready, set, GO!
7 posted on 04/20/2003 1:00:33 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Give me a link with the original quotes.

Karadjordje

8 posted on 04/20/2003 1:06:30 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"... particularly when you started it."

I just remember a funny happening in puppet Den Haag in 2002, but read yourself:

"15 Q [MILOSEVIC] In your public statements, or rather, in Tudjman's public

16 statements on Ban Jelacic Square on the 24th of May, 1992, said 'There

17 would have been no war had not Croatia wanted it. But we thought that it

18 was only by war that we could win the independence of Croatia. That's why

19 we had a policy of negotiations behind which we were setting up military

20 units. Had this not been so, we would not have reached our goal.' Is

21 this correct, Mr. Mesic?

22 A. [MESIC] I think that this could have been reported only by the Serbian

23 press, because it simply does not correspond to the truth. We know who

24 was in control of the press in Serbia. It was the accused, Slobodan

25 Milosevic."

Page 10638

http://emperor.vwh.net/icdsm/more/mesic-3.htm

And now listen to Holocaust revisionist Franjo Tudjman's speech on Ban Jelacic Square, Zagreb, on the 24th of May, 1992 (Serbo-Croatian):

http://m3.easyspace.com/domenico1/HR-BiH/franjo1.MPG

http://m3.easyspace.com/domenico1/HR-BiH/franjo2.MPG

http://m3.easyspace.com/domenico1/HR-BiH/franjo3.MPG

http://m3.easyspace.com/domenico1/HR-BiH/franjo4.MPG

Mr. "We-are-always-innocent" Mesic just lied (spelling: L-I-E-D) in front of puppet Den Haag in 2002 as a "witness" against Slobo.

Here I haven't even mentioned the ethnic cleanseeking of Serbs in Croatia ... or Kosovo and Metohija.

Karadjordje

9 posted on 04/20/2003 1:38:43 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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I meant ethnic cleansing and not "cleanseeking", sorry...

Karadjordje

10 posted on 04/20/2003 1:43:40 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
You wouldn't believe me if I did.
11 posted on 04/20/2003 3:46:41 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"You wouldn't believe me if I did."

Sorry, I don't have Arab money to pay some Muslim mortar guys, some "I lied just for the case" guys and some "neutral"-"yes I misled my viewers"-journalist and some IPI emotion and objective reasoning influence groups to repeat a big lie again and again and to present here glossy so by you called "war pornos".
I don't know why you are so concerned? If I do not post anymore, will anyone know anything about Gospic massacre, about Lora concentration camp, Ethnic cleanest countries in Europe?

Karadjordje

12 posted on 04/20/2003 4:23:39 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Ans looking back some posts I would say no answer IS an answer.

Karadjordje

13 posted on 04/20/2003 4:25:34 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
There's an error in the 1998 total for Livno. I was noticing that the Croat population was exactly the same as it was in 1991, while the others lost thousands yet the total population was about the same. The correct 1998 total for Livno should be 31,856 instead of the 39,400 they have.
14 posted on 04/21/2003 4:47:03 AM PDT by joan
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To: Karadjordje
No, no answer is no answer, particularly when responding to someone who obviously lives in another universe than the rest of us (probably the one where Spock wears a beard).
15 posted on 04/21/2003 6:08:16 AM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"No, no answer is no answer, particularly when responding to someone who obviously lives in another universe than the rest of us (probably the one where Spock wears a beard)."

Bosnian Muslim would like that their crimes can be transferred to an another universe, but they committed it in Europe, Bosnia.

EXPULSION OF THE SERBS FROM BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA 1992-1995 (<- click)

Karadjordje

16 posted on 04/21/2003 11:50:51 AM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
Bosnian Muslim would like that their crimes can be transferred to an another universe, but they committed it in Europe, Bosnia.>>

Serbs would like us to think that the Big Lie technique still works. Scream the same BS endlessly, and people begin to think that it's true.

Nice try.
17 posted on 04/21/2003 1:13:49 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Serbs would like us to think that the Big Lie technique still works. Scream the same BS endlessly, and people begin to think that it's true. Nice try."

Don't be afraid, all well documented.

Report G1: R E P O R T SUBMITTED TO THE COMMISSION OF EXPERTS ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 780, 1992 (<- click)

Report G2: R E P O R T SUBMITTED TO THE COMMISSION OF EXPERTS ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 780, 1993 (<- click)

Report G3: LETTER FROM THE CHARGE D'AFFAIRES A.I. OF THE PERMANENT MISSION OF YUGOSLAVIA TO THE UNITED NATIONS ADDRESSED TO THE SECRETARY-GENERAL, 1994 (<- click)

Report G4: FOURTH REPORT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA ON CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST HUMANITY AND INTERNATIONAL LAW IN THE TERRITORY OF THE FORMER SFR OF YUGOSLAVIA, 1994 (<- click)

Report G5: FIFTH REPORT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA ON WAR CRIMES COMMITTED IN THE TERITORY OF THE FORMER SFRY, 1995 (<- click)

Report G6: SIXTH REPORT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA ON WAR CRIMES COMMITTED IN THE TERRITORY OF THE FORMER SFRY, 1995 (<- click)

Report P1: SERBIAN WOMEN AS VICTIMS OF WAR (Sanda Raskovic, MD, Ph.D. ) (<- click)

Report P2: DECAPITATION AS A MEANS OF GENOCIDE OVER THE SERBS IN THE FORMER BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA (Committee for the Collection of Data on Crimes Committed against Humanity and International Law) August 23,1995 (<- click)

Report P3: MEMORANDUM: On Ethnical Cleansing of and Genocide against the Serb People of Croatia and Krajina, September 1995 (<- click)

Report P4: Report of Bishop Lukijan of Slavonia (Bishop Lukijan of Slavonia ) May 1995 (<- click)

Report P5: TORTURE IN THE CAMPS FOR SERBS IN THE FORMER BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA- FORENSIC MEDICAL AND PSYCHIATRIC ASPECTS (Committee for the Collection of Data on Crimes Committed against Humanity and International Law )Belgrade; March 15, 1995 (<- click)

Karadjordje

18 posted on 04/21/2003 1:38:02 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-1.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-1.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-3.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-4.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-4.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-6.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-6.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-OnEtnicCleansing.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-lukijan.html

http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/izvestaji/rep-tortureforserbs.html

AAAAAAANT. Sorry, but thank you for playing FAZE THE NATION! What consolation prizes do we have for our contestants, Johnny? Well, for Djeordjie, we have a set of Ginzu knives, for use as needed in combat, and a year's supply of Rice-a-Roni, The San Francisco Treat! Plus, a copy of our home game!

19 posted on 04/21/2003 2:03:09 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Do you have problems with this official documents?

Or do we have just false oil-less friends?


Former Nazi collaborator and War criminal Alija Izetbegovic with Arab friends



Former Nazi collaborator and War criminal Alija Izetbegovic with Arab friends

20 posted on 04/21/2003 3:16:08 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Have you read the documents just provided by http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu? (remark: non islamic side)

Karadjordje

21 posted on 04/21/2003 3:18:23 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Balkans War Crime Defenses:

1. It's not my dog.
2. It didn't bite you.
3. Besides, you kicked it first.

(Return to #1 and repeat endlessly.)
22 posted on 04/21/2003 3:20:21 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
Have you tried to discuss with a Fundamentalist?


Mujahedeensvet wrote here (<- click) ) - with a gun in his hand ;) -
"[...] we would have been better off having the Croats and Muslims conquer the whole thing [Bosnia]."



Fascist Islamist Dreams of Bosnia (Bosnian Muslim Popaganda Video)


Karadjordje

23 posted on 04/21/2003 3:33:12 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje; homeagain balkansvet
Have you tried to discuss with a Fundamentalist?

Only the Serbian Fundamentalists here on FR.

24 posted on 04/21/2003 3:36:17 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
Poohbah's Balkans posts contributions:

1. Make the same uninformed comment
2. Consider myself clever
3. Repeat ad nauseum

(Return to #1 and repeat endlessly.)
25 posted on 04/21/2003 3:38:04 PM PDT by bob808
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To: bob808
Kindly explain where my analysis is faulty.
26 posted on 04/21/2003 3:39:07 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Karadjordje
Do you have problems with this official documents?

Yes. How many times do I have to say "Serb propaganda" before it sinks in?

Every neutral document from the international community and the US Government place the blame squarely where it belongs, on the heads of Milosevic, Karadzic, Seselj and Mladic and their ganymedes in the Serb armies in their various guises (Bosnian Serb Army/VRS, Jugoslavian National Army, Serb paramilitaries like Arkan's Tigers, et al).

27 posted on 04/21/2003 3:55:44 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Have you tried to discuss with a Fundamentalist?

Yes. All the time. Fundamentalists named Karadjordje, Joan, Destro, et al.

28 posted on 04/21/2003 3:57:16 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: Karadjordje; homeagain balkansvet
Ok ...pistols at dawn for you two.

plenty of blood on the hands for all in this argument in my view.

I guess the fact that I was a bit suspect about helping Muslims kill Christians and the fact that I don't find the Muslims guiltless...nor the Serbs or Croats either makes me a Serbian Fundie.

29 posted on 04/21/2003 4:01:25 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hootie to head EEOC...)
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Yes. How many times do I have to say "Serb propaganda" before it sinks in?

Every neutral document from the international community and the US Government place the blame squarely where it belongs, ..."

Oooohh,aaah ALL EVIL SERBIAN Propaganda ... because US Government (killed over 2,000 Yugoslav civlians) isn't biased and isn't interested in such things (only when this Government of truthfulness says for examlple that 500,000 Albanians died in Kosovo):

Uproar over Film "Storm over Krajina" (Croatian article from aimpress) (<- click)

Uproar by Croats - why such a reaction Muja?

Karadjordje

30 posted on 04/21/2003 4:09:52 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: wardaddy
I guess the fact that I was a bit suspect about helping Muslims kill Christians and the fact that I don't find the Muslims guiltless...nor the Serbs or Croats either makes me a Serbian Fundie. >>

Muslims weren't 'guiltless,' but the blather engendered by my opponent is designed to do everything he can to tear attention away from the massacre at Srebrenica, which made our intervention in Bosnia necessary (and which cost me a good solid three years of my life to help clean up).

Just ONCE I'd like to hear one of these guys say, "Yeah, we did it, we shouldna, whachagonnado?" That would be almost honest. Instead I get pictures of heads in buckets and (in djeordjie's case) endlessly recycled World War Two war pix.
31 posted on 04/21/2003 4:12:48 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Yes. All the time. Fundamentalists named Karadjordje, Joan, Destro, et al."

Nice hot pants on the photo, where did I get them?

From Osama Bin Laden?

Karadjordje

32 posted on 04/21/2003 4:13:14 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Muslims weren't 'guiltless,' but the blather engendered by my opponent is designed to do everything he can to tear attention away from the massacre at Srebrenica, which made our intervention in Bosnia necessary (and which cost me a good solid three years of my life to help clean up)."

What do you know from former multiethnic Yugolsalvia - before the war began, during the war -- nothing, just nothing, just ridiculous.

Pozdrav
Karadjordje

33 posted on 04/21/2003 4:16:45 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
Oooohh,aaah ALL EVIL SERBIAN Propaganda ... because US Government (killed over 2,000 Yugoslav civlians) isn't biased and isn't interested in such things (only when this Government of truthfulness says for examlple that 500,000 Albanians died in Kosovo):

Riiight. There aren't 500,000 Albanians IN Kosovo. The US Gov't never made such a claim. The true number is on the order of 5,000 at the hands of the Serb paramilitaries. Not much, you might think, but that's 1% of the Albanian population: equivalent of about, oh, 2.85 million here in the States.

34 posted on 04/21/2003 4:22:58 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: Karadjordje
kara- do not forget the muslim-run SILO concentration camp the Muslims denied existed.
35 posted on 04/21/2003 4:28:50 PM PDT by PiP PiP Cherrio (Kosovo je Srbija - Bosna je Srbija)
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Riiight. There aren't 500,000 Albanians IN Kosovo. The US Gov't never made such a claim. The true number is on the order of 5,000 at the hands of the Serb paramilitaries. Not much, you might think, but that's 1% of the Albanian population: equivalent of about, oh, 2.85 million here in the States."

"Massacres or holocaust?

At the time the news that Western leaders claimed to have from Kosovo was indeed truly terrifying. As a senior administration official explained to The New York Times (4 April), 'There may be 50 Srebrenicas' (or in other words 350,000 dead). On ABC television news (18 April) another official claimed that, 'Tens of thousands of young males may have been executed in Kosovo.' The next day the State Department announced that 500,000 Albanian Kosovars 'are missing and feared dead.'

These figures were promptly taken up by French television. Jean-Pierre Pernaut, for instance, mentioned '100,000 to 500,000 people who are thought to have been killed, but that is in the conditional' (TF1, 20 April). The following evening the same channel announced, 'According to Nato, 100,000 to 500,000 men are reported missing. It is feared that they have been executed by the Serbs ... Of course, we have yet to prove this accusation.' Radio was keen to join in as well. On France Inter the journalist accredited to Nato enthusiastically passed on reports according to which 'hundreds of boys are being used as live blood banks, thousands of others are digging graves or trenches and the women are being systematically raped' (20 April, 7 pm news).

In the articles penned by French intellectuals on the Nato side the indicative mood soon replaced the conditional. Antoine Garapon, a magistrate, secretary general of the Institute of Advanced Legal Studies, president of the Kosovo committee and member of the editorial staff of Esprit, wrote, 'We cannot put the thousand or so Serb victims on the same footing as the hundreds of thousands of Kosovars who have been massacred' (Télérama, 23 June). He was already one step behind the official line. Once the war had been won, Western estimates of Albanian dead dropped from six to five figure numbers. On 17 June the Foreign Office in London stated that '10,000 people had been killed in more than 100 massacres'. On 25 June Clinton confirmed the figure of 10,000 Kosovars killed by the Serbs (The Nation, 8 November). On 2 August, following his appointment as Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary General, Bernard Kouchner spoke of 11,000 Kosovars discovered in mass graves but the International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in The Hague refuted the statement the same day. Even Le Monde diplomatique unwisely claimed in its August leader that 'half of the feared 10,000 victims have been exhumed.'"

Le Monde diplomatique, LESSONS OF WAR - Media and disinformation, March 2000

Karadjordje

36 posted on 04/21/2003 4:32:25 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Poohbah
You need to learn history and the meaning of Fundamentalism. Serb and Fundamentalism does not match as Terrorist and KLA, with Poohbah blessings does.
37 posted on 04/21/2003 4:33:05 PM PDT by PiP PiP Cherrio (Kosovo je Srbija - Bosna je Srbija)
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To: Karadjordje
What do you know from former multiethnic Yugolsalvia - before the war began, during the war -- nothing, just nothing, just ridiculous.>>

Well, it wasn't my country. But it became my problem, willy nilly, when your heroes of Serbia stood outside a barn and massacred a thousand people at close range at Kravica and massacred 7000 other people for giggles.

Frankly, I don't give a rat's patootie about the former Yugoslavia; it was a bastard state cobbled together at gunpoint by a genocidal maniac who thought that he could paper over War Two with a plaster mixed in the blood of murdered 'enemies of the state.' In an ideal world Tito would have stepped on a land mine and the pieces of Yugoslavia should have been allowed to go their own ways in 1945. But that's not the world we inherited.

Frankly I would have been perfectly happy to spend the last four years back here in the States with my wife and family and remaining blissfully unaware of anything about that two bit hell hole called Yugoslavia. BUT NOOOOOOO. You guys had to go berzerk and kill prisoners for no reason other than blood lust and hate, requiring a lot of people like ME to come and babysit your worthless butts.

You people, Serbs in particular, brought it on yourselves, both through your collaboration with the Nazis Milosevic and Karadzic, through your overeagerness to believe lies about people whose houses you wanted to rob in Bosnia and Croatia, but much deeper in time through your passive cooperation with the monster Tito. I have no sympathy for you in the least. (I don't have much more sympathy for Croatia, either. Bosnian Muslims I like at least because they REALIZE that they only exist because we were there, and had the courtesy to thank us.)
38 posted on 04/21/2003 4:33:33 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: Karadjordje
What do you know from former multiethnic Yugolsalvia - before the war began, during the war -- nothing, just nothing, just ridiculous.>>

Well, it wasn't my country. But it became my problem, willy nilly, when your heroes of Serbia stood outside a barn and massacred a thousand people at close range at Kravica and massacred 7000 other people for giggles.

Frankly, I don't give a rat's patootie about the former Yugoslavia; it was a bastard state cobbled together at gunpoint by a genocidal maniac who thought that he could paper over War Two with a plaster mixed in the blood of murdered 'enemies of the state.' In an ideal world Tito would have stepped on a land mine and the pieces of Yugoslavia should have been allowed to go their own ways in 1945. But that's not the world we inherited.

Frankly I would have been perfectly happy to spend the last four years back here in the States with my wife and family and remaining blissfully unaware of anything about that two bit hell hole called Yugoslavia. BUT NOOOOOOO. You guys had to go berzerk and kill prisoners for no reason other than blood lust and hate, requiring a lot of people like ME to come and babysit your worthless butts.

You people, Serbs in particular, brought it on yourselves, both through your collaboration with the Nazis Milosevic and Karadzic, through your overeagerness to believe lies about people whose houses you wanted to rob in Bosnia and Croatia, but much deeper in time through your passive cooperation with the monster Tito. I have no sympathy for you in the least. (I don't have much more sympathy for Croatia, either. Bosnian Muslims I like at least because they REALIZE that they only exist because we were there, and had the courtesy to thank us.)
39 posted on 04/21/2003 4:34:29 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"The true number is on the order of 5,000 at the hands of the Serb paramilitaries."

16 Apr 2003

"More than 4,000 still missing four years after Kosovo conflict

Belgrade (dpa) - The United Nations administration in Kosovo (UNMIK) said Wednesday that so far 145 out of 4,000 bodies exhumed in the province since the end of the war have been identified, the private Beta news agency reported.

A total of 4,300 people have been reported missing since 1999, most of them ethnic Albanians, said chief of the UNMIK department for missing persons, Jose Pablo Baraibar.

The list was not yet fully 'consolidated' and UNMIK has been working on it with Belgrade, he said.

According to available data, 909 of the missing were non-Albanians, but the figure was expected to rise, as Serbs recently added another 350 names to it.

Barabair said no mass graves have been found in Kosovo, the site of a bloody conflict between Belgrade's security forces and ethnic Albanian guerrillas in 1998 and 1999, but that more individual burial sites were expected to be found.

The fighting was accompanied by a wave of terror by the security forces and outright expulsions of civilians which led to an exodus of refugees to Albania and Macedonia.

The conflict was ended after NATO bombed Slobodan Milosevic's regime into accepting an international peacekeeping presence in June 1999."

dpa bb bg

Copyright (c) dpa Deutsche Presse-Agentur GmbH

Karadjordje

41 posted on 04/21/2003 4:47:18 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"The US Gov't never made such a claim. The true number is on the order of 5,000 at the hands of the Serb paramilitaries."

2 lies in 2 sentences, and your face don't turn red.

Karadjordje

42 posted on 04/21/2003 4:51:17 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
I'll accept your figure of 3000 Albanians. That drops it to the equivalent of oh, 2 million Americans by proportion.

What's remarkable was the numbers of people who *weren't* killed by Serb paramilitaries. Because we showed up and put them out of business.

My face don't turn red when I tell the truth.
43 posted on 04/21/2003 4:54:26 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"I'll accept your figure of 3000 Albanians. That drops it to the equivalent of oh, 2 million Americans by proportion."

"[...] the US said that between 2,000 and 3,000 Iraqis had been killed in the three-hour incursion into the city on Saturday, by the 3rd Infantry Division and two squadrons of tanks."

The Independent, Baghdad braced for the assault, 07 April 2003 (<- click)

The U.S. Government kills as many as 3,000 people in 3 hours- rate of upto 1,000 people per hour. The U.S. Government killed more Iraqis in that 3 hours than Albanians killed by Serbs for the entire 2 years of the Kosovo war, right?

Karadjordje

44 posted on 04/21/2003 5:03:03 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: Karadjordje
Okay, djeorgie, let's expand your English vocabulary! - Let's go to www.dictionary.com. Look up the definitions of the following words: "Civilian" and "Military."
45 posted on 04/21/2003 5:05:28 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
Also, while you're at it, the words "genocide" and "combat."

Not all battle deaths are equal. Some are worse than others.
46 posted on 04/21/2003 5:11:31 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"...hands of the Serb paramilitaries."

Do you know the article "The Cruelest Cleansings" (<- click)

Ooooh, be careful, it's again a Serbian site...ooohh...

Karadjordje

47 posted on 04/21/2003 5:19:32 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Okay, djeorgie, let's expand your English vocabulary! - Let's go to www.dictionary.com. Look up the definitions of the following words: "Civilian" and "Military.""

145 are identified, hm.
You would say, that they all were civilians?
Hm, all Albanien?

Karadjordje

48 posted on 04/21/2003 5:25:15 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Not all battle deaths are equal. Some are worse than others."

Oh, that you don't have to exlpain to me - 1,900 Muslim Fighters who slaughtered 1,200 Serbs are worse than these 1,200 Serb Civilians, I know.

Karadjordje

49 posted on 04/21/2003 5:31:05 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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To: homeagain balkansvet
homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Look up the definitions of the following words: "Civilian" and "Military.""

So let us loot to Rudare, Kosovo:

homeagain balkansvet wrote:
"Look up the definitions of the following words: "Civilian" and "Military.""

So Let us loot to Rudare, Kosovo:

AP, April 15, 2002

"Serbs look for evidence about relatives believed killed in Kosovo

By DRAGAN ILIC, Associated Press Writer

RUDARE, Yugoslavia - Hundreds of relatives of Serbs missing since the end of Kosovo´s war examined clothes, wedding rings and cigarette cases Sunday, hoping to determine the fate of loved ones believed slain in the province.

Families streamed into a pair of tents erected near a motel in southern Serbia to view items U.N. forensics investigators uncovered after the fighting ended in 1999. The relatives donned surgical masks to guard against infection while looking at items found with 360 corpses unearthed at sites throughout the southern Yugoslav province.

Some 1,300 Serbs have been reported missing since former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic ´s 1998-1999 crackdown on ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. Most of those people are presumed to be dead.

U.N. officials in recent months have promised to do more to determine the fate of the missing, both Serbs and ethnic Albanians. An estimated 3,000 ethnic Albanians are also still unaccounted for nearly three years after NATO bombing halted Milosevic´s crackdown and drove out Yugoslav government forces.[...]"



"Wiping away tears, Sasa Ristanovic recognized a blue shirt his father, Momcilo, wore June 17, 1999, the day he disappeared in the Kosovo city of Prizren.
'Now I know what I felt for years,' he said. 'My father was killed and dumped in a grave.'"(AP)

Karadjordje
50 posted on 04/21/2003 6:29:52 PM PDT by Karadjordje (Silajdzic:"I want air raids, air raids immediately to punish those who are killing innocent people!")
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