SARS infects 'protected' medical staff Gloves, gowns, masks didn't stop outbreak at Sunnybrook

CanWest News Service - The Ottawa Citizen - canada.com ^ | April 20, 2003 | David Rider

[Domestic Church]

At the beginning and noted here on FR, several nations claimed right off that this was germ warfare. It was never refuted but a lid was definitly placed upon that idea, more for panic suppression I think.

[riri]

Those are some good ideas, DC. I have given this much thought. When this really hits, I am pulling my daughter out of school and we are staying home for as long as it takes. I just hope I catch that short window in time.

[riri]

I never thought it was terrorism, at most I thought it was an accident. I am now about 95% certain it is some form of deliberate terrorism.

[CathyRyan]

My car died and I started to get a new one then sars hit and I figured I might not be going anywhere anytime soon. I live within walking distance of stores and bank. Only problem is the neighbors think I can not afford a new one and feel sorry for me. I can not explain to them about sars or they really would think I was a kook.

[friendly]

If SARS is a germ warfare experiment of the ChiComs (which I very much doubt), it certainly went awry.

With a 5%+ mortality rate, I have called it "The Stand Lite."

[riri]

I can not explain to them about sars or they really would think I was a kook

Boy, can I relate. I have a 5 year old little girl who plays with another little girl down the street. Well, the little girls grandma is a nurse in the surgery department of one of our local hospitals. I really want to cut off their playing but I don't know what to say. "Ummmm, my daughter can play with your daughter any more because I feel your mom is at high risk for contracting SARS and bringing it home"

I know all this sounds crazy. But what do you do?

[riri]

can s/b can't

[Domestic Church]

" I'd be interested to know what epidemiologists have to say."

They might all be barfing by now.

[friendly]

But you will need a ride to go to the hospital!

Don't worry, I'll save you a place in my biohazard filtered air survival bunker!

[Lucas1]

Quote "SARS is a potential blessing to the Canadians, if it causes them to look behind the carefully crafted curtain, into their sham of a system.
"

The most INSANE comment of the day award...goes to you

[CathyRyan]

As small as my town is there would be no beds left by the time I get sick.

[not_apathetic_anymore]

They might all be barfing by now. LOL. True.

I'd just be interested to hear what someone who specializes in this says relative to linear increases, logarithic increases (as they suspect would happen with smallpox), infectiousness, infective window, universal precautions to prevent spread etc. Maybe that info is out there, but I have only been following SARS intermittently.

[friendly]

Ah, a "Canadian socialized health care is the best in the world" delusional outpatient. I'd tell you to up your medication dose, but you will never get an appointment with your OHIP doc.

[Domestic Church]

The nebulizer would account for spreading the virus at that location. They probably were doing treatments every one or two hours around the clock.

[Axenolith]

Any word on Tamiflu efficacy? I'd heard they were trying it out on some of the victims that ended up in Germany...

[Domestic Church]

"* A Dutch vet became the first human victim..."

"I thought this virus had been contained after China killed millions of chickens."

I thought that too and wondered what were the odds it would reappear.

[CathyRyan]

Sorry I do not know anything about it. Maybe someone else does. :)

[Axenolith]

Masks and shields prevent "force of habit" hand to mouth and eye contact.

[Domestic Church]

"With a 5%+ mortality rate, I have called it "The Stand Lite.""

The numbers aren't in yet - this is just the front of the curve but Canada is at 9.5% and climbing.

[Domestic Church]

"When this really hits, I am pulling my daughter out of school and we are staying home"

Casual acquaintances in our parish have started coming up to me with the "I'd like to make a play date for the kids" kind of intro and then they switch over to asking about homeschooling. It's funny, but we were considered oddities for HSing. Now folks want to know all about it.