Laci Peterson case tied to Roe debate - (NOW argues baby was not murdered)

Daily Record ^ | 4/20/03 | Rob Jennings

[Mark Felton]

The head of the National Organization for Women's Morris County chapter is opposing a double-murder charge in the Laci Peterson case, saying it could provide ammunition to the pro-life lobby.

"If this is murder, well, then any time a late-term fetus is aborted, they could call it murder," Morris County NOW President Mavra Stark said on Saturday.

[altura]

Those people are pathetic.

[Clara Lou]

There are no printable words to describe NOW and the crones who run it. They are truly warped human beings.

[CAPPSMADNESS]

unbelievable...... completely and utterly unbelievable......

[KeyLargo]

In CanaDUH a fetus is NOT considered a person.

[VadeRetro]

Single-issue activists are so one-dimensional they don't cast a shadow.

[OperationFreedom]

I read the original article a few minutes ago. Although their crapola was expected it still outraged me.

[martin_fierro]

NOW: On the fast track to irrelevance.

[MizSterious]

Looks like they just couldn't pass up a chance to insert their agenda into this very tragic case. On Easter weekend, no less. For shame.

[unixfox]

Wouldn't it be nice if a jury of 12 patriots decided that the murder of an unborn child is just that?

Kinda like giving the finger to the Supreme Court. I like that.

[nicmarlo]

The head of the National Organization for Women's Morris County chapter is opposing a double-murder charge in the Laci Peterson case, saying it could provide ammunition to the pro-life lobby.

I knew this would be coming up....I knew it. They are disgusting, immoral, evil people.

[savedbygrace]

If there was really any doubt before, this move by NOW proves that they are not pro-choice, but pro-abortion. It fact, this goes even farther; they are pro-murder.

[RGSpincich]

NOW this. They say string him up but not on the baby's account. God made it as plain as he could, by delivering that baby to the shore ahead of his mother, that he wants that baby spoken for.

[aristeides]

There will be a real contradiction if the death penalty is applied. The Supreme Court has implied in its capital-punishment cases that capital punishment is only constitutional for murder. If killing a fetus is not killing a human being, it would be unconstitutional in this case. But the Supreme Court has held in its abortion opinions that a fetus is not a person for legal purposes.

[winner3000]

So, as far as NOW is concerned, if some guy wants his girlfriend to have an abortion and she doesn't, he can just knock her out, perform a C section himself, murder the baby, and not be charged for murder! Now that's the kind of "civil" society we want to live in!

[Bogey]

NOW might as well get on the plane to Iraq with Saradon, Robbins etc.
This case makes the vast majority of americans sick to our stomach.
I would have to hope that the politico's that have supported these idiots have to be cringing today.

[aristeides]

"I'd like to see them string him up," Stark said, "any way they can."

Only not the only way they legally can, under California law. Maybe she wants a lynching.

[doug from upland]

Stark said that despite her opposition to the double-murder charge, she is not sympathetic to Scott Peterson. "I'd like to see them string him up," Stark said, "any way they can."
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Apparently she doesn't mean "any way..." If she did, she would applaud this way because it is the only way in California for the death penalty to apply.

[Mister Baredog]

"If this is murder, well, then any time a late-term fetus is aborted, they could call it murder,"

What the hell else could you call it?

[fieldmarshaldj]

"There are no printable words to describe NOW and the crones who run it."

One word: Evil.

[Homeschoolmom]

Exactly! The term "pro-choice" is is meaningless. They only promote and scream about abortion on demand. If they were really only interested in what women "do with their own bodies", they'd be lobbying for countless things like prostitution, drug use, etc.

They only care about ABORTION. That's why they're not "pro-choice", they're pro-abortion.

[WKB]

What the hell else could you call it?

Playing Doctor

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

NOW this. They say string him up but not on the baby's account. God made it as plain as he could, by delivering that baby to the shore ahead of his mother, that he wants that baby spoken for.

Post-mortem "choice" is what they will argue?

[harpo11]

Stark evidence of NOW's lunacy.

NOW can be placed next to the UN, an area reserved for the repugnant and irrelevant.

Moreover, Marva's very lucky her momma gave birth to her and she should look deep into whatever is left of her puny soul to see that Laci Peterson and her family were very much excited and looking forward to welcoming of their new little baby, Conor, into their warm loving arms.

[thoughtomator]

NOW now finds itself in the position of defending a person accused of murdering his wife and child, on the grounds that the child wasn't a child. Truth is stranger than fiction!

[risk]

unbelievable...

I know many people here won't want to consider this, but I believe the concept of fetal homicide is effective only when it considers the intent of the mother.

Few are capable of seeing the distinction as useful, and most here on FR will cry foul because of their religious beliefs.

We could do much for fetal protection if we could find more ways of compromising.

May Laci and her baby boy rest in peace, and may their loving families find solace in knowing how many millions of us grieve with them at this time.

[Homeschoolmom]

"If this is murder, well, then any time a late-term fetus is aborted, they could call it murder,"

What the hell else could you call it?

They call it a "woman's right to do what she will with her own body". Blech!

[uvular]

If they can somehow prove this baby was developed enough to live on it's own (don't know if that's possible), wouldn't that help?

This is indeed yet another unforgivable position NOW has taken.

Foxnews reporter Claudia Cowan states Scott had one of his brothers' ID on him, along with $10,000.00. This must be what prompted one reporter to ask the Chief of Police Friday night if 'another family member' had been arrested (COP said no).

[runningbear]

I don't think they are going to win in this case... They will be losers, and maybe it is just about time the Supreme Court make it so that just shuts down this organization.. Political whores anyhow on the liberal side... (oops! Just my opinion)

[Chad Fairbanks]

"If this is murder, well, then any time a late-term fetus is aborted, they could call it murder," Morris County NOW President Mavra Stark said on Saturday.

Hmmm... say, now THERE is an idea ;0)

[RGSpincich]

Reviews of prenatal check ups will attest to that and will nail SP's coffin shut, hopefully.

[Magoo]

The paradox of this situation is utterly disgusting.

[TomGuy]

To convict Peterson of murdering his unborn son, prosecutors would have to prove either that he intended to kill the fetus or knew that it would die as a result of Laci Peterson's death.

Let's see:

Killing the pregnant mother,
Partially dismembering the pregnant mother,
Wrapping the pregnant mother in plastic sheeting,
Dropping the pregnant mother into a body of water and weighting the body down with concrete.
Scott surely wouldn't expect the baby to be born in Cleveland.

If the mother's death was truly accidental, Scott probably would have called 911, got emergency help, and the baby could have been delivered and lived.

[A2J]

"If this is murder, well, then any time a late-term fetus is aborted, they could call it murder," Morris County NOW President Mavra Stark said on Saturday.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Give the woman (I'll never call her a "lady") a cigar!

[KeyLargo]

Prosecutors are able to charge Peterson with two counts of murder because California homicide law states that a fetus is viable if it is in the "post-embryonic" period, typically seven to eight weeks into a pregnancy, legal sources said. Laci Peterson was eight months pregnant when she disappeared.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Mavra Stark: I applaud your approach to that goddess-given right which right now is the sad bone of contention in so many political dis(cordia)courses. I'd like to share a shout-ku with you that I composed for the 13th annual Womyn's Night of Bloodmoon, in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

(to be shouted, with croud participation in brackets)

My child is my blood! [Afterbirth, ha!]
I spill my blood on the earth! [Afterbirth, ho!]
Blood that's mine to spill! [Afterbirth, afterbirth, ha ha ha!]

I have taken a vow against thanking, as it implies the servile submissiveness of anti-Rosie-Riveter 50's maternal figures, but accept that you are appreciated from a position of strength.

Rooted in vaginal heartiness,

C. F.

[Sinner6]

I knew it. I said this was going to happen when Laci first dissappeared.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

The head of the National Organization for Women's Morris County chapter is opposing a double-murder charge in the Laci Peterson case, saying it could provide ammunition to the pro-life lobby.

This is sick, what if the baby was only 1 day or one week from being delivered, then he or she is still a fetus?

Aren't laws in all states such that a woman can't have an abortion past the second trimester? Laci Peterson was well past that, so how can NOW take this position?

[Skooz]

"If this is murder, ...and it is

well, then any time a late-term fetus is aborted, they could call it murder," Duh. That's because it is murder.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

NOW CRIMINAL HYPOCRITES!

[Grymskull]

You have to understand that there are those who want life without consequence... They want to fight against a percieved oppression in every concievable way.. in order to do this NOW must deny that the unseen is anything other than a mass of flesh. It is to deny the soul... whether you are pro-life for religious reasons or just for the pure sake of human decency.. The NOW gang radical agenda is purely motivated by their hatred toward men and any form of control that they may have.. even to the point of killing off a generation of women that may actually rally to their cause... It is ironic that the group that fights for Equal rights for women and reproductive rights (or the right to kill thier unborn child) are ready to crucify Dead Beat Dads who don't want to take care of thier children.. (not that I support Dead Beat dads).. But it would be a nice stick in the Eye if legislation were introduced for the Male Abortion...

Anytime from conception to the actual birth.. A prospective father in the presence of a witness can proclaim a male abortion. This would terminate any responsiblity for that child.. I mean lets face it... If a woman has the right to choose.. shouldn't the father?

[An American In Dairyland]

As always these misfit gurlz are drawing all sorts of immoral lines in the sand. It makes no difference if it was born or unborn, or a baby or a fetus. A fetus is still a human life and deserves the same protections and right to life that a newborn baby does. Abortion is murder.

[nicmarlo]

Your Baby: Nearing the finish line

By the eighth month, your baby is becoming her own little person. Weighing around 4 pounds (1.8 kilograms) and measuring about 16 inches long (40 plus centimeters), she is almost ready to make an appearance. All five of your baby's senses are functional: She can suck her thumb, feel touch, see light, hiccup, and hear sounds. You can see other spectacular developments: Her face is almost wrinkle-free, her toenails are completely formed, and she may have a good head of hair.

[I_dmc]

This could be interesting. I suspect Scott aborted the baby, and Laci died as a result. That begs the questions, if you attempt to abort a fetus yourself, is it illegal? Is is murder?

[reg45]

What the hell else could you call it?

Playing Doctor

No! Playing G-d!

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

BumPing

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

They sit by during sex haerrassment and rape charges of Clinton and yet want to claim this baby was not murdered.

How much more ludicrous can they get. The baby is dead most likely due to combustion from stomache gases because the mother died.

If anything this proves abortion is what it is, murder.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

"If this is murder, well, then any time a late-term fetus is aborted, they could call it murder," Morris County NOW President Mavra Stark said on Saturday.

IT is murder!

[An American In Dairyland]

>>I know many people here won't want to consider this, but I believe the concept of fetal homicide is effective only when it considers the intent of the mother. <<

You are apparently saying that a fetus is only human life depending on if any individual woman wants it to be human life. IOW if Laci didn't want that poor baby, than the baby's life and death was irrelevant. I disagree.

Human life is human life and individual women have no right to decide the value of another's life. BTW, I am a woman and a mother.