Anything into Oil(solution to dependence on foregn oil?)

DISCOVER Vol. 24 No. 5 ^ | May 2003 | Brad Lemley

[honway]

fyi

[Temple Owl]

Pardon me, says a reporter, shivering in the frigid dawn, but that sounds too good to be true.

I'll second that!

[honway]

I'll second that!

Read on. 100 pounds of discarded plasic bottles yields 70 pounds of clean burning oil.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

As a chemist somewhat familiar with how difficult it is to get chemical reactions to go in the desired direction no matter how pure and carefully selected your starting materials are, I find it hard to believe that a single apparatus could take any carbonaceous starting material and get the reactions to all go the same.

My second thought is that, even if this thing does work, you would almost certainly have to put a lot more energy into it than you could get out of it.

[Temple Owl]

"There is no reason why we can't turn sewage, including human excrement, into a glorious oil,"

Oooookay. And they can make lemonade out of it too.

[Baseballguy]

The issue should not be if its effiecient. It would reduce the amount of landfills.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

http://www.changingworldtech.com/techfr.htm

[Gumption]

"The potential is unbelievable," says Michael Roberts

That's what I was thinking too.

[honway]

My second thought is that, even if this thing does work, you would almost certainly have to put a lot more energy into it than you could get out of it

I encourage you to read the entire article. This is not a hypothetical theory. There is an industrial size fully operational plant in Carthage, MO. Most of the energy required in the process is produced from the waste going in. How's 80% efficiency sound when your raw material is stuff headed for a landfill.

[umgud]

bumpity

[honway]

Thanks for the link.

http://www.changingworldtech.com/techfr.htm


The Thermo-Depolymerization Process, or TDP, copies the geological and geothermal processes of nature. The technology emulates what occurs daily in the earth's subduction zones, but uses an accelerated process.
The TDP mimics the earth's system; however, TDP takes only minutes to do what nature does over thousands of years.



By controlling the temperature and pressure of this man-made system through the use of pipes, the TDP produces high quality products, including valuable oils that do not contain any tars or asphaltines

[honway]

fyi

[honway]

fyi

[honway]

Carthage Commercial Facility

[honway]

Just converting all the U.S. agricultural waste into oil and gas would yield the energy equivalent of 4 billion barrels of oil annually. In 2001 the United States imported 4.2 billion barrels of oil.

[m1911]

I am thinking the same thing. The thing that gets me is that the company has a pilot plant and investors. Real ones, by the sound of this article. Usually these "perpetual motion machine/zero point energy" scams are trying to get investors, this one's building a production plant.

[CollegeRepublican]

[CollegeRepublican]

[honway]

For years I was convinced the solution to our dependence on foreign oil was to develop hydrogen as an energy source. The problem is the technology is not available to make hydrogen a viable energy alternative.

This working plant that is operational today solves our to biggest problems. What do we do with all the garbage we produce that is overwhelming our landfills and how do we decrease our dependence on foreign oil.