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WHY DO INTELLECTUALS OPPOSE CAPITALISM ?
Cato Online ^ | January/February 1998 | Robert Nozick

Posted on 04/22/2003 12:04:38 PM PDT by Cosmo

Why Do Intellectuals Oppose Capitalism?

by Robert Nozick

It is surprising that intellectuals oppose capitalism so. Other groups of comparable socio-economic status do not show the same degree of opposition in the same proportions. Statistically, then, intellectuals are an anomaly.

Not all intellectuals are on the "left." Like other groups, their opinions are spread along a curve. But in their case, the curve is shifted and skewed to the political left.

By intellectuals, I do not mean all people of intelligence or of a certain level of education, but those who, in their vocation, deal with ideas as expressed in words, shaping the word flow others receive. These wordsmiths include poets, novelists, literary critics, newspaper and magazine journalists, and many professors. It does not include those who primarily produce and transmit quantitatively or mathematically formulated information (the numbersmiths) or those working in visual media, painters, sculptors, cameramen. Unlike the wordsmiths, people in these occupations do not disproportionately oppose capitalism. The wordsmiths are concentrated in certain occupational sites: academia, the media, government bureaucracy.

Wordsmith intellectuals fare well in capitalist society; there they have great freedom to formulate, encounter, and propagate new ideas, to read and discuss them. Their occupational skills are in demand, their income much above average. Why then do they disproportionately oppose capitalism? Indeed, some data suggest that the more prosperous and successful the intellectual, the more likely he is to oppose capitalism. This opposition to capitalism is mainly "from the left" but not solely so. Yeats, Eliot, and Pound opposed market society from the right.

The opposition of wordsmith intellectuals to capitalism is a fact of social significance. They shape our ideas and images of society; they state the policy alternatives bureaucracies consider. From treatises to slogans, they give us the sentences to express ourselves. Their opposition matters, especially in a society that depends increasingly upon the explicit formulation and dissemination of information.

We can distinguish two types of explanation for the relatively high proportion of intellectuals in opposition to capitalism. One type finds a factor unique to the anti-capitalist intellectuals. The second type of explanation identifies a factor applying to all intellectuals, a force propelling them toward anti-capitalist views. Whether it pushes any particular intellectual over into anti-capitalism will depend upon the other forces acting upon him. In the aggregate, though, since it makes anti-capitalism more likely for each intellectual, such a factor will produce a larger proportion of anti-capitalist intellectuals. Our explanation will be of this second type. We will identify a factor which tilts intellectuals toward anti-capitalist attitudes but does not guarantee it in any particular case.

The Value of Intellectuals

Intellectuals now expect to be the most highly valued people in a society, those with the most prestige and power, those with the greatest rewards. Intellectuals feel entitled to this. But, by and large, a capitalist society does not honor its intellectuals. Ludwig von Mises explains the special resentment of intellectuals, in contrast to workers, by saying they mix socially with successful capitalists and so have them as a salient comparison group and are humiliated by their lesser status. However, even those intellectuals who do not mix socially are similarly resentful, while merely mixing is not enough--the sports and dancing instructors who cater to the rich and have affairs with them are not noticeably anti-capitalist.

Why then do contemporary intellectuals feel entitled to the highest rewards their society has to offer and resentful when they do not receive this? Intellectuals feel they are the most valuable people, the ones with the highest merit, and that society should reward people in accordance with their value and merit. But a capitalist society does not satisfy the principle of distribution "to each according to his merit or value." Apart from the gifts, inheritances, and gambling winnings that occur in a free society, the market distributes to those who satisfy the perceived market-expressed demands of others, and how much it so distributes depends on how much is demanded and how great the alternative supply is. Unsuccessful businessmen and workers do not have the same animus against the capitalist system as do the wordsmith intellectuals. Only the sense of unrecognized superiority, of entitlement betrayed, produces that animus.

Why do wordsmith intellectuals think they are most valuable, and why do they think distribution should be in accordance with value? Note that this latter principle is not a necessary one. Other distributional patterns have been proposed, including equal distribution, distribution according to moral merit, distribution according to need. Indeed, there need not be any pattern of distribution a society is aiming to achieve, even a society concerned with justice. The justice of a distribution may reside in its arising from a just process of voluntary exchange of justly acquired property and services. Whatever outcome is produced by that process will be just, but there is no particular pattern the outcome must fit. Why, then, do wordsmiths view themselves as most valuable and accept the principle of distribution in accordance with value?

From the beginnings of recorded thought, intellectuals have told us their activity is most valuable. Plato valued the rational faculty above courage and the appetites and deemed that philosophers should rule; Aristotle held that intellectual contemplation was the highest activity. It is not surprising that surviving texts record this high evaluation of intellectual activity. The people who formulated evaluations, who wrote them down with reasons to back them up, were intellectuals, after all. They were praising themselves. Those who valued other things more than thinking things through with words, whether hunting or power or uninterrupted sensual pleasure, did not bother to leave enduring written records. Only the intellectual worked out a theory of who was best.

The Schooling of Intellectuals

What factor produced feelings of superior value on the part of intellectuals? I want to focus on one institution in particular: schools. As book knowledge became increasingly important, schooling--the education together in classes of young people in reading and book knowledge--spread. Schools became the major institution outside of the family to shape the attitudes of young people, and almost all those who later became intellectuals went through schools. There they were successful. They were judged against others and deemed superior. They were praised and rewarded, the teacher's favorites. How could they fail to see themselves as superior? Daily, they experienced differences in facility with ideas, in quick-wittedness. The schools told them, and showed them, they were better.

The schools, too, exhibited and thereby taught the principle of reward in accordance with (intellectual) merit. To the intellectually meritorious went the praise, the teacher's smiles, and the highest grades. In the currency the schools had to offer, the smartest constituted the upper class. Though not part of the official curricula, in the schools the intellectuals learned the lessons of their own greater value in comparison with the others, and of how this greater value entitled them to greater rewards.

The wider market society, however, taught a different lesson. There the greatest rewards did not go to the verbally brightest. There the intellectual skills were not most highly valued. Schooled in the lesson that they were most valuable, the most deserving of reward, the most entitled to reward, how could the intellectuals, by and large, fail to resent the capitalist society which deprived them of the just deserts to which their superiority "entitled" them? Is it surprising that what the schooled intellectuals felt for capitalist society was a deep and sullen animus that, although clothed with various publicly appropriate reasons, continued even when those particular reasons were shown to be inadequate?

In saying that intellectuals feel entitled to the highest rewards the general society can offer (wealth, status, etc.), I do not mean that intellectuals hold these rewards to be the highest goods. Perhaps they value more the intrinsic rewards of intellectual activity or the esteem of the ages. Nevertheless, they also feel entitled to the highest appreciation from the general society, to the most and best it has to offer, paltry though that may be. I don't mean to emphasize especially the rewards that find their way into the intellectuals' pockets or even reach them personally. Identifying themselves as intellectuals, they can resent the fact that intellectual activity is not most highly valued and rewarded.

The intellectual wants the whole society to be a school writ large, to be like the environment where he did so well and was so well appreciated. By incorporating standards of reward that are different from the wider society, the schools guarantee that some will experience downward mobility later. Those at the top of the school's hierarchy will feel entitled to a top position, not only in that micro-society but in the wider one, a society whose system they will resent when it fails to treat them according to their self-prescribed wants and entitlements. The school system thereby produces anti-capitalist feeling among intellectuals. Rather, it produces anti-capitalist feeling among verbal intellectuals. Why do the numbersmiths not develop the same attitudes as these wordsmiths? I conjecture that these quantitatively bright children, although they get good grades on the relevant examinations, do not receive the same face-to-face attention and approval from the teachers as do the verbally bright children. It is the verbal skills that bring these personal rewards from the teacher, and apparently it is these rewards that especially shape the sense of entitlement.

Central Planning in the Classroom

There is a further point to be added. The (future) wordsmith intellectuals are successful within the formal, official social system of the schools, wherein the relevant rewards are distributed by the central authority of the teacher. The schools contain another informal social system within classrooms, hallways, and schoolyards, wherein rewards are distributed not by central direction but spontaneously at the pleasure and whim of schoolmates. Here the intellectuals do less well.

It is not surprising, therefore, that distribution of goods and rewards via a centrally organized distributional mechanism later strikes intellectuals as more appropriate than the "anarchy and chaos" of the marketplace. For distribution in a centrally planned socialist society stands to distribution in a capitalist society as distribution by the teacher stands to distribution by the schoolyard and hallway.

Our explanation does not postulate that (future) intellectuals constitute a majority even of the academic upper class of the school. This group may consist mostly of those with substantial (but not overwhelming) bookish skills along with social grace, strong motivation to please, friendliness, winning ways, and an ability to play by (and to seem to be following) the rules. Such pupils, too, will be highly regarded and rewarded by the teacher, and they will do extremely well in the wider society, as well. (And do well within the informal social system of the school. So they will not especially accept the norms of the school's formal system.) Our explanation hypothesizes that (future) intellectuals are disproportionately represented in that portion of the schools' (official) upper class that will experience relative downward mobility. Or, rather, in the group that predicts for itself a declining future. The animus will arise before the move into the wider world and the experience of an actual decline in status, at the point when the clever pupil realizes he (probably) will fare less well in the wider society than in his current school situation. This unintended consequence of the school system, the anti-capitalist animus of intellectuals, is, of course, reinforced when pupils read or are taught by intellectuals who present those very anti-capitalist attitudes.

No doubt, some wordsmith intellectuals were cantankerous and questioning pupils and so were disapproved of by their teachers. Did they too learn the lesson that the best should get the highest rewards and think, despite their teachers, that they themselves were best and so start with an early resentment against the school system's distribution? Clearly, on this and the other issues discussed here, we need data on the school experiences of future wordsmith intellectuals to refine and test our hypotheses.

Stated as a general point, it is hardly contestable that the norms within schools will affect the normative beliefs of people after they leave the schools. The schools, after all, are the major non-familial society that children learn to operate in, and hence schooling constitutes their preparation for the larger non-familial society. It is not surprising that those successful by the norms of a school system should resent a society, adhering to different norms, which does not grant them the same success. Nor, when those are the very ones who go on to shape a society's self-image, its evaluation of itself, is it surprising when the society's verbally responsive portion turns against it. If you were designing a society, you would not seek to design it so that the wordsmiths, with all their influence, were schooled into animus against the norms of the society.

Our explanation of the disproportionate anti-capitalism of intellectuals is based upon a very plausible sociological generalization.

In a society where one extra-familial system or institution, the first young people enter, distributes rewards, those who do the very best therein will tend to internalize the norms of this institution and expect the wider society to operate in accordance with these norms; they will feel entitled to distributive shares in accordance with these norms or (at least) to a relative position equal to the one these norms would yield. Moreover, those constituting the upper class within the hierarchy of this first extra-familial institution who then experience (or foresee experiencing) movement to a lower relative position in the wider society will, because of their feeling of frustrated entitlement, tend to oppose the wider social system and feel animus toward its norms.

Notice that this is not a deterministic law. Not all those who experience downward social mobility will turn against the system. Such downward mobility, though, is a factor which tends to produce effects in that direction, and so will show itself in differing proportions at the aggregate level. We might distinguish ways an upper class can move down: it can get less than another group or (while no group moves above it) it can tie, failing to get more than those previously deemed lower. It is the first type of downward mobility which especially rankles and outrages; the second type is far more tolerable. Many intellectuals (say they) favor equality while only a small number call for an aristocracy of intellectuals. Our hypothesis speaks of the first type of downward mobility as especially productive of resentment and animus.

The school system imparts and rewards only some skills relevant to later success (it is, after all, a specialized institution) so its reward system will differ from that of the wider society. This guarantees that some, in moving to the wider society, will experience downward social mobility and its attendant consequences. Earlier I said that intellectuals want the society to be the schools writ large. Now we see that the resentment due to a frustrated sense of entitlement stems from the fact that the schools (as a specialized first extra-familial social system) are not the society writ small.

Our explanation now seems to predict the (disproportionate) resentment of schooled intellectuals against their society whatever its nature, whether capitalist or communist. (Intellectuals are disproportionately opposed to capitalism as compared with other groups of similar socioeconomic status within capitalist society. It is another question whether they are disproportionately opposed as compared with the degree of opposition of intellectuals in other societies to those societies.) Clearly, then, data about the attitudes of intellectuals within communist countries toward apparatchiks would be relevant; will those intellectuals feel animus toward that system?

Our hypothesis needs to be refined so that it does not apply (or apply as strongly) to every society. Must the school systems in every society inevitably produce anti-societal animus in the intellectuals who do not receive that society's highest rewards? Probably not. A capitalist society is peculiar in that it seems to announce that it is open and responsive only to talent, individual initiative, personal merit. Growing up in an inherited caste or feudal society creates no expectation that reward will or should be in accordance with personal value. Despite the created expectation, a capitalist society rewards people only insofar as they serve the market-expressed desires of others; it rewards in accordance with economic contribution, not in accordance with personal value. However, it comes close enough to rewarding in accordance with value--value and contribution will very often be intermingled--so as to nurture the expectation produced by the schools. The ethos of the wider society is close enough to that of the schools so that the nearness creates resentment. Capitalist societies reward individual accomplishment or announce they do, and so they leave the intellectual, who considers himself most accomplished, particularly bitter.

Another factor, I think, plays a role. Schools will tend to produce such anti-capitalist attitudes the more they are attended together by a diversity of people. When almost all of those who will be economically successful are attending separate schools, the intellectuals will not have acquired that attitude of being superior to them. But even if many children of the upper class attend separate schools, an open society will have other schools that also include many who will become economically successful as entrepreneurs, and the intellectuals later will resentfully remember how superior they were academically to their peers who advanced more richly and powerfully. The openness of the society has another consequence, as well. The pupils, future wordsmiths and others, will not know how they will fare in the future. They can hope for anything. A society closed to advancement destroys those hopes early. In an open capitalist society, the pupils are not resigned early to limits on their advancement and social mobility, the society seems to announce that the most capable and valuable will rise to the very top, their schools have already given the academically most gifted the message that they are most valuable and deserving of the greatest rewards, and later these very pupils with the highest encouragement and hopes see others of their peers, whom they know and saw to be less meritorious, rising higher than they themselves, taking the foremost rewards to which they themselves felt themselves entitled. Is it any wonder they bear that society an animus?

Some Further Hypotheses

We have refined the hypothesis somewhat. It is not simply formal schools but formal schooling in a specified social context that produces anti-capitalist animus in (wordsmith) intellectuals. No doubt, the hypothesis requires further refining. But enough. It is time to turn the hypothesis over to the social scientists, to take it from armchair speculations in the study and give it to those who will immerse themselves in more particular facts and data. We can point, however, to some areas where our hypothesis might yield testable consequences and predictions. First, one might predict that the more meritocratic a country's school system, the more likely its intellectuals are to be on the left. (Consider France.) Second, those intellectuals who were "late bloomers" in school would not have developed the same sense of entitlement to the very highest rewards; therefore, a lower percentage of the late-bloomer intellectuals will be anti-capitalist than of the early bloomers. Third, we limited our hypothesis to those societies (unlike Indian caste society) where the successful student plausibly could expect further comparable success in the wider society. In Western society, women have not heretofore plausibly held such expectations, so we would not expect the female students who constituted part of the academic upper class yet later underwent downward mobility to show the same anti-capitalist animus as male intellectuals. We might predict, then, that the more a society is known to move toward equality in occupational opportunity between women and men, the more its female intellectuals will exhibit the same disproportionate anti-capitalism its male intellectuals show.

Some readers may doubt this explanation of the anti-capitalism of intellectuals. Be this as it may, I think that an important phenomenon has been identified. The sociological generalization we have stated is intuitively compelling; something like it must be true. Some important effect therefore must be produced in that portion of the school's upper class that experiences downward social mobility, some antagonism to the wider society must get generated. If that effect is not the disproportionate opposition of the intellectuals, then what is it? We started with a puzzling phenomenon in need of an explanation. We have found, I think, an explanatory factor that (once stated) is so obvious that we must believe it explains some realphenomenon.

Robert Nozick is Arthur Kingsley Porter Professor of Philosophy at Harvard University and the author of Anarchy, State, and Utopia and other books. This article is excerpted from his essay "Why Do Intellectuals Oppose Capitalism?" which originally appeared in The Future of Private Enterprise, ed. Craig Aronoff et al. (Georgia State University Business Press, 1986) and is reprinted in Robert Nozick, Socratic Puzzles (Harvard University Press, 1997).


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I'm in the midst of writing a paper on G.A. Cohen and John Rawls and came across this. Amusing to say the least, and poignant as Nozick always was.
1 posted on 04/22/2003 12:04:38 PM PDT by Cosmo
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To: Cosmo
What sounds sexy in theory is not always what really works on the basis of the reality of human nature. Intellectuals rely on seducing themselves by words and thoughts, not action.
2 posted on 04/22/2003 12:08:36 PM PDT by Liberals are Evil Socialists!
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To: Liberals are Evil Socialists!
Cave dwellers were highly competitive in order to survive. Some conclude that the achievement of a utopian society is one where there is no hunger, poverty, disease or crime. These people falsly conclude that the failure to achieve utopia is because of competition - that is, we still behave like cave dwellers.

We are a great nation BECAUSE of competition. Moving away from competition will result in a dismal society.
3 posted on 04/22/2003 12:13:25 PM PDT by TonyS6
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To: Cosmo
Didn't read it, but the answer is simple: supply and demand can be understood by uneducated people without any explanation from an "intellectual".
4 posted on 04/22/2003 12:15:45 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Cosmo
The short answer is they think they're so smart that they know what's better for us than we do.
5 posted on 04/22/2003 12:16:53 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Notwithstanding
Why do people opposed to Capitalism think they're "Intellectuals"?
6 posted on 04/22/2003 12:17:41 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: Cosmo
I think Nozick missed one key point. It is extremely circular but is valid, just the same. Some stupid, lazy elitist slobs want to be perceived as intellectuals and believe that bad-mouthing capitalism will aid that perception.

Same holds with bad-mouthing Bush, Republicans or business. "I don't understand a thing he says but, since he opposes capitalism/Bush/Kyoto/IMF/Republicans, it must be because he is sooo intellectual!" THat's what they learn at their state university and, the unwashed [but easy] coeds they pick up enforce the perception.

7 posted on 04/22/2003 12:18:20 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: Cosmo
A high IQ and common sense aren't necessarily found in the same place at the same time.
8 posted on 04/22/2003 12:18:28 PM PDT by grimalkin
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To: Cosmo
WHY DO INTELLECTUALS OPPOSE CAPITALISM ?

I'll give it a go. It is out of self-preservation. Capitalism rewards those who provide goods and/or services that others value. Intellectuals offer neither.

9 posted on 04/22/2003 12:21:03 PM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Cosmo
It is surprising that intellectuals oppose capitalism so.

Because by its very nature, capitalism is not precisely knowable, and does not lend itself to detailed control.

10 posted on 04/22/2003 12:21:08 PM PDT by lepton
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To: Cosmo
I think it has more to do with the mindset of a student entering college. Students who choose "employable" majors such as nursing, engineering, etc. are more likely to be conservative by nature.

Students (mostly female) who choose majors because these majors are "interesting" are more likely to be out of touch with reality, and therefore have an anti-capitalism mindset. There is not a whole lot of demand for philosophy, history, journalism, art, et cetera, and it's completely unrealistic to spend $100,000 majoring in such... so these students wind up hating capitalism that denies them a living babbling & writing nonsense.
11 posted on 04/22/2003 12:22:44 PM PDT by Nataku X (Never give Bush any power you wouldn't want to give to Hillary.)
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To: Cosmo
WHY DO INTELLECTUALS OPPOSE CAPITALISM?

That's an easy one. Intellectuals oppose capitalism because they can't come to grips with the fact that capitallism is often capricious and unpredictable by its very nature. Notice how much effort has been made by "big-government" liberals to make human life more predictable by eliminating risk through regulation, social-insurance schemes that require a single "pool" of participants, etc.

12 posted on 04/22/2003 12:25:21 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: lepton
LOL. See #12 -- You beat me to it!

13 posted on 04/22/2003 12:26:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Clemenza; PARodrig; rmlew; nutmeg; Black Agnes
ping
14 posted on 04/22/2003 12:27:16 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: Alberta's Child
.....Ditto # 9, # 10 and # 12.....

.....plus.....

.....most "INTELLECTUALS" are dumb arses.....

15 posted on 04/22/2003 12:29:38 PM PDT by cyberaxe ((.....does this mean I'm kewl now?.....))
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To: Cosmo
Because most of them consider themselves elite, smarter than the masses, and the saviors of mankind,
16 posted on 04/22/2003 12:29:59 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Cosmo
I think a more fundamental question would be "Why are intellectuals so stupid?"
17 posted on 04/22/2003 12:30:31 PM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: Cosmo
I think the explanation is simple. People tend to think of their own profession as "normal", then project the conditions, qualities, and virtues of their circumstances on others and other circumstances.

Commerce, academe, the press, the Church, the government all have their own natural internal dyanamic. For commerce, capitalism or more generally some form of free enterprise (syndicalism with worker-ownership of freely trading private enterprises is a competing model of free enterprise, though it has drawbacks in terms of capital formation) is the natural dynamic. In academics, where knowledge and inquiry are the "bottom line," a different dynamic-- peer-review, tenure as a guarantee of free inquiry by those who have made some degree of attainment in their field, fiduciary handling of temporalities--is the norm. The natural dynamic of government seems to be bureacratic (our democratic republic, the Soviet totalitarian state, the Roman Empire, the classical Confucian states in China and Korea, all evolved in this direction). The press seems to have a dynamic dicated by the poles of serving knowledge and operating in the market, though for some reason the writers seem to wish they were in academe. I will not try to explain the internal dynamic of the Church (by which I mean the Orthodox Church), but suffice to say it is different from that governing government, commerce, academe or the press.

No end of mischief is wrought by those who think the natural condition of their own endeavour should be universalized. Whether it is leftist professors who want job-security for all workers, and a benificient state to handle all temporalities as their adminstration handles those of their university, who would thereby destroy commerce and bloat and distort government, or rightist businessmen who think that universities and government agenies should be run like commercial corporations with the balance-sheet as the only data considered, who would thereby destroy the universities and rob government of its purpose of responding to those social needs not readily met by commerce.

I personally want to conserve all the social structures our forefathers have bequethed to us: the commercial corporation, the university, limited goverment, the Church (and the Latins, Copts, Anglican, Lutherans,. . . can have their hierarchies and organizations with their internal dynamics conserved as well), the free press, . . . and regard as a bad conservative anyone who wants to change any one of these into the likeness of another. (Those on the right in America do have a galling tendancy to want to make everything into commerce.)

18 posted on 04/22/2003 12:30:52 PM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: Cosmo
The writer asks a valid question but he (no pun) overintellectualizes in his answer. The answer is hinted at all through the article but never hit upon, to wit: Intellectuals are at the center of their universe LITERALLY. They scoff at the idea of a Spritual God who created the universe and stands astride time itself. THEY are the source of all wisdom as far as they are concerned. This is why, no matter how badly their ideas fail, they never have to rethink them because THEY are good and therefore their ideas are correct. (The road to hell is paved with good intentions.) It doesn't matter if the failure even results in the deaths of hundreds, thousands or millions THEY ARE NEVER WRONG THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT CORRECTABLE. Believer, agnostic or athiest, Nature hates a vacuum so you MUST serve SOMEBODY and the "intellectuals" serve THEMSELVES.
19 posted on 04/22/2003 12:34:05 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: balrog666
Why do people opposed to Capitalism think they're "Intellectuals"?

I had the same thought. In reality, these people are no more "intellectual" than anyone else. They just declare themselves intellectually superior. Go look at DU and you'll see it.

20 posted on 04/22/2003 12:42:43 PM PDT by saminfl
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To: Cosmo
MY two cents: They hate capitalism like they hate all other forms of the truth. The laws of economics are based in the truth of supply and demand, and the nature of man. They are truth like the laws of gravity- they are the way the world works, they won't be changed just because a bunch of liberals think they should be. Societies that try to have always failed. Liberals and anti-capitalists are those who simply cannot face the world as it IS, not as they wish it were.
21 posted on 04/22/2003 12:50:48 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Cosmo
IMHO - intellectuals feel threatened by capitalism. They deal in ideas - mostly other people's ideas, and they set themselves up as the arbiters of what is a good idea and what is a bad idea. Capitalism takes that position away from them and gives it to the unwashed masses.
22 posted on 04/22/2003 12:51:00 PM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Liberal Classic
The short answer is they think they're so smart that they know what's better for us than we do.

Bingo! We have a winner.

23 posted on 04/22/2003 12:52:03 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: Lil'freeper
I'll give it a go. It is out of self-preservation. Capitalism rewards those who provide goods and/or services that others value. Intellectuals offer neither.

Completely, utterly and totally dead on.

24 posted on 04/22/2003 12:54:59 PM PDT by ShadowDancer
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To: Notwithstanding
[S}upply and demand can be understood by uneducated people.

I think the issue is the expectations of intellectuals relative to 'uneducated people'. Much of what the essay discusses has merits, but what is missing is the degree of recent intensity. What has made intellectuals so rabidly anti-capitalist now, as opposed to 50 years ago?

The professions he includes as intellectual are teacher, journalist, and politician/bureaucrat. These professions have always rewarded advanced education, because improper use of words stood out flagrantly and unacceptably in those areas. By virue of their verbal skills, the 'wordsmith' intellectuals were easily distinguishable from others in everyday life. It showed as they talked, and it showed in their comfortable ability to read (the easiest way to share information in the era before television) and so demonstrate greater knowledge of what was happening in the world. When they talked, people listened.

Yet verbal skills to an 'adequate' level are fundamental to all advanced training. Now that a large percentage of our society has college degrees, the engineer and businessman have picked up adequate verbal skills along the way to training that society values more. Yet for the engineer and businessman, verbal skills are not enough. As one crust old Navy Captain said, "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be a social scientist, but you do have to be a rocket scientist to be a rocket scientist." In the law of supply and demand, there is now a much larger supply of those with adequate verbal skills.

As a result, the intellectual professions no longer attract the best and the brightest, and the respect society holds for those with no other claim to value is spiraling downward faster and faster. Thomas Sowell has written extensively about how teachers and journalists are among the lowest ranks of achievement in school. Being in the lowest third of a social order where only 10% of the people have college degrees is still a sign of intellectual achievement. Being in the lowest third of a social order where 70% of the people have college degrees puts you less than average in intelligence for the society as a whole.

So, they do everything they can to ruin the system that rewards specialized skills in the hope that their unspecialized skills can regain respect. What they don't recognize is that if we went back to the 'old' system where only the top 10% of the people went to college, most of today's teachers and journalists would never have made it through.
25 posted on 04/22/2003 12:56:13 PM PDT by Gorjus
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To: Nakatu X
"There is not a whole lot of demand for philosophy, history, journalism, art, et cetera..."

Are you saying there is no role for these genres simply because there is no "demand" for them? Some people choose these paths because that is what brings them happiness, which is not necessarily connected to money. Just because there is no market demand for philosopers or history majors doesn't mean that they don't play an important role in a capitalist society.
26 posted on 04/22/2003 12:56:40 PM PDT by Desecrated (A nickel of every tax dollar should go toward the defense of America)
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To: Alberta's Child
This numbersmith grew numb before completing.
27 posted on 04/22/2003 12:57:44 PM PDT by larryjohnson
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To: Cosmo
Let's get this straight, intellectual is the most abused term in english language. While some so called intellectuals are wise the term intellectual and wisdom have nothing in common. I would rather be wise than be an intellectual.
Since liberals are always wrong about about everything they preach and claim to be the intellectual class that is the proof that intellectual and wisdom should not be spoken in the same sentence together.
28 posted on 04/22/2003 1:03:07 PM PDT by John Lenin (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,)
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To: Cosmo
This is a very good article, but it has been posted more than once before.

What are you writing about regarding Rawls. I used to do that sort of thing, even published a paper on Nozick's misreading (in Anarchy, State and Utopia) of A.K. Sen's Liberal Paradox (in Collective Choice and Social Welfare). But that was many years and a couple of careers ago.

29 posted on 04/22/2003 1:06:52 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Mesopotamia Delenda Est)
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To: Cosmo
wordsmith intellectuals

There are two types of people in the world, 1) word people and 2) number people.........word people run this country..... the lawyers, the politicians, the media, the preachers, ...... verbal giftedness is rewarded with status and power....if you could look at the real SATs of all of our congressmen I am sure you would find most have higher verbal scores that math scores....quite an anomaly among a mostly male group....

Thus my conclusion is strange and bizarre events occur do to the lack of “number people” around to apply some sequential thinking skills

p.s. George Bush is a “number person” …look up his SATs….which is why the “word people” think he is dumb….

30 posted on 04/22/2003 1:09:03 PM PDT by reflecting
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To: Tacis
I think Nozick missed one key point. It is extremely circular but is valid, just the same. Some stupid, lazy elitist slobs want to be perceived as intellectuals and believe that bad-mouthing capitalism will aid that perception.

He missed it because Thorstein Veblin already said the same thing in "The Theory of the Leisure Class". It's Veblin assertion that the people assume "Leisure Class" attitudes about things like the environment, social welfare, foreign policy etc. People adopt additudes and ideas that make them feel superior to the unwashed rabble. (Jean Garofalo call your agent. Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, please shut up.)

31 posted on 04/22/2003 1:11:55 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Cosmo
WHY DO INTELLECTUALS OPPOSE CAPITALISM ?

It is quite simple. Intellectuals think that they are the greatest people on Earth. But at the end of the day, the ones who drive the nicest cars home to the nicest houses are capitalists. They feel that it is the ultimate insult that the world doesnt recognize their superiority to all of us and shower them with our hard earned riches...JFK

32 posted on 04/22/2003 1:13:22 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Cosmo
Ping for later read.
33 posted on 04/22/2003 1:14:56 PM PDT by livius (Let slip the cats of conjecture.)
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To: Nakatu X
Universities are not vocational schhols. Teaching employable skills is the legitimate role of trade schools. Teaching the processes of thought, the theories and philosophies of the great thinkers of history and the skills of critical analyis are the high roles we should demand from universities and colleges. Engineers who can build a bridge but who haven't a clue as to the greatness of poetry, literature, the who, why and effect of history, or who have no appreciation of the great philosophers from ancient Greece to the industrial revolution and beyond are nothing more than automotons and skilled workers.

Higher education should challenge the young (and older) mind to grow both in learning, but more important, in wisdom and the means by which to reach that high plane.

34 posted on 04/22/2003 1:22:26 PM PDT by middie
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To: CatoRenasci
Just writing on of Cohen's ( see "If you're in egalitarian, how come you're so rich")criticisms of Rawls and the way his argument actually serves to bolster the conservative /libertarian argument against Rawls and egalitarians in general....Not totally original, admittedly, but it's late in the semester and I'm beat.:)

If you want to point me in the direction of your paper, I'd love to read it.

as for this article having been posted before, I figure some articles are timeless enough that they deserve reposting from time-to time (People seem to be enjoying it,here:))

Anyhoo

Feel the gin



35 posted on 04/22/2003 1:24:43 PM PDT by Cosmo (Help pay for the war! Buy a palace time-share in Baghdad !)
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To: Cosmo
contemporary intellectuals feel entitled to the highest rewards their society has to offer and resentful when they do not receive this? Intellectuals feel they are the most valuable people, the ones with the highest merit, and that society should reward people in accordance with their value and merit.

A concise definition of the genesis of Bill and Hillary Clinton's attitude toward their position in America and why Americans should approach them on bended knee.

36 posted on 04/22/2003 1:25:03 PM PDT by jimkress
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To: Gorjus
As a result, the intellectual professions no longer attract the best and the brightest, and the respect society holds for those with no other claim to value is spiraling downward faster and faster. Thomas Sowell has written extensively about how teachers and journalists are among the lowest ranks of achievement in school. Being in the lowest third of a social order where only 10% of the people have college degrees is still a sign of intellectual achievement. Being in the lowest third of a social order where 70% of the people have college degrees puts you less than average in intelligence for the society as a whole.

Bingo.

To add to that -- 50 years ago most women could only find "good" jobs as nurses or teachers. Lots of smart, competent women became teachers. One reason why it was possible to educate kids well back then was because the teachers were generally quite competent. Once the women could get other jobs, the "best and brightest" fled teaching for other professions and the teaching field became the realm of a few struggling folks who really want to help kids amidst a sea of incompetent hacks. It is a simple fact that of all occupations, teachers today (with a few exceptions) are at the low end of the IQ pool.

37 posted on 04/22/2003 1:31:45 PM PDT by dark_lord
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To: ShadowDancer
Completely, utterly and totally dead on.

High praise- thanks.

38 posted on 04/22/2003 1:33:12 PM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: middie; All
Thank you!

I've been stunned by a few of the posts on this thread. When they spit on intellectuals, they also spit on the same type of people that "discovered" or developed the ideas that they cherish--from theologian intellectuals like Aquinas to the fathers of capitalist/libertarian schools of thought like Locke, Burke, von Mises and Hayek.

Maybe we should all make a distinction between the pseudo-intellectual deGenovas of the world and true intellectuals that we may or MAY NOT agree with like a Rawls or Sowell or Williams.

There is a place for thoughts and ideas, and I believe this piece is right on, but rather than bash anyone who is intelligent or orients their lives around the great words, ideas, arts, etc of human history, perhaps we should criticize those that simply carry resenmtment or deem themselves "the Anointed." That way we can still love and admire our Sowells and Rothbards and make distinctions between good and bad, as we always must.
39 posted on 04/22/2003 1:38:50 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Cosmo
  I think the author is out to lunch.  His idea of intellectual is pointed moreso at pundits and writers.
I disagree with his premise that the place to find intellectuals is primarily there.  Real captains
of industry don't get where they are by being dull witted, and they are not anti-capitalist.  I disagree with his entire article.

As to why intellectuals are often anti-capitalist, I would redefine the subject and ask
why the highly educated are often anti-capitalist, with the higher the education, the
more pointed the anti-capitalism.  And it doesn't have to do necessarily with exposure
to Marxist economics, though that surely has an effect on those so exposed in their
educational pursuit.

Education is tightly bound with gaining understanding.  And there is much truth in the
axiom, "To understand all is to forgive all."  In Germany, there was great criticism of
a book that purported to find explanations for why Hitler acted as he did, in other
words to understand his motivations.  Critics felt that if the reader could be persuaded
to understand why Hitler did what he did, he could see enough of the same characteristics
in himself to accomodate a degree of cutting Adolf some slack.

Higher education in the US, especially in the social sciences, finds motivations for the black
community's ingrained disrespect for hard work and education in studies of slavery, for example.
By thus blaming historical forces for the poverty that results from the street mindset, it is but a small
stop to blaming society, and decreeing redistribution of wealth and all the other socialistic 'remedies'
that come to hand.  "To understand all, is to forgive all," and to see capitalism as being too demanding an economic system of those who  "understandably" won't get off their butts to
pull the wagon, cannot compete, and it's "unfair" to expect them to do any better.
40 posted on 04/22/2003 1:55:37 PM PDT by gcruse (Saddam's last words. "I can see them. I can see 72.................VIRGILS???!!!?!?!")
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To: Cosmo
Rather, it produces anti-capitalist feeling among verbal intellectuals. Why do the numbersmiths not develop the same attitudes as these wordsmiths? I conjecture that these quantitatively bright children, although they get good grades on the relevant examinations, do not receive the same face-to-face attention and approval from the teachers as do the verbally bright children. It is the verbal skills that bring these personal rewards from the teacher, and apparently it is these rewards that especially shape the sense of entitlement.

I would offer that numeric excercises provide rewards independent of the instructor while verbal exercises do not. In other words, the numerically bright find objective confirmation of their brightness while the verbally bright must always depend on subjective confirmation from some higher human authority for their value. This easily conforms to a preference for society based on a hierarchical arrangement of humans among the verbally bright. Capitalism is not that system.

41 posted on 04/22/2003 2:05:30 PM PDT by laredo44
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To: laredo44
True. Plus, the number types are exposed to a lot less social sciences than the writer types. Oddly, though, the core curricula usually make the math types take soshe, without making the soshe types take math. You can tell from that which types run the universities.
42 posted on 04/22/2003 2:08:25 PM PDT by gcruse (Saddam's last words. "I can see them. I can see 72.................VIRGILS???!!!?!?!")
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To: Cosmo
IMHO, we can trace a good deal of this back to 18th century European, particularly pre-Rvolutionary France and the contempt of the waning aristrocracy to the rising .

"To the aristrocrats she (Madame de Pompadour) was in incarnation of the (despised) Parisian bourgeoisie. While the nobles, living in a delightful insouciance at Versallies, neglecting their estates, gambling all of every night for enormous sums , spending far more than they could afford on horses, carriages and clothes...(they) were geting steadily poorer and more obscure, the bourgeoisie getting richer and more powerful...In his (Duc de Richelieu) eyes she (Pompadour) incarnated the abominable bourgeoisie, the wrong people with their deplorable ton, who were gradually accumlating money and power at the expense of all the right people..." Nancy Mitford, " Madame de Pompadour"

These aristrocrats - both in France and across Europe- evolved into today's intellectual, carrying with them the 200+ year contempt of the "abominable bourgeoisie" (both haute and petite),as well as the system that favors them (capitalism) and, last but certainly not least, the one nation that symbolizes it all: the United States.

43 posted on 04/22/2003 2:29:22 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Cosmo
The true intellectual understands that he needs to create value. The people discussed in this article are psuedo-intellectuals, poseurs who surround themselves with the trappings of academic achievement but who lack the discerning minds and self-critical outlook of true intellectuals.
44 posted on 04/22/2003 2:58:35 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Exactly. The focus of the article is too narrow for the broadness of its conclusions.
45 posted on 04/22/2003 3:06:49 PM PDT by gcruse (Saddam's last words. "I can see them. I can see 72.................VIRGILS???!!!?!?!")
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To: Nakatu X
I think it has more to do with the mindset of a student entering college. Students who choose "employable" majors such as nursing, engineering, etc. are more likely to be conservative by nature

Not necesarily true. I'm a Civil Engineering major and I have a few liberal classmates, who are really outspoken, but we're mostly indifferent to politics or conservatives (I think the former is more applicable).

As the author exposes it, engineering is totally disconnected with politics, since we don't deal with "ideas" but with theorems and formulas, we're mathematicians by nature.

I thank God that I chose to major in Civil Engineering, because I couldn't stomach all that drivel.

46 posted on 04/22/2003 3:20:19 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: yankeedame
the one nation that symbolizes it all: the United States.

Yes ---they consider themselves to be part of the "elite" and they despise what they consider middle class values and the middle class. They prefer aristocracies/oligarchies which allow a few elites to have all the power and control. It really irks them that a country that allowed peasants to have money became the richest and in many cases descendents of peasants came out ahead of the descendents of aristocrats.

47 posted on 04/22/2003 4:50:58 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Cosmo
Hi Cosmo,

Wow! Thanks for posting this, this so hits the nail on the head. What a thought-provoking article!

Why do the numbersmiths not develop the same attitudes as these wordsmiths? I conjecture that these quantitatively bright children, although they get good grades on the relevant examinations, do not receive the same face-to-face attention and approval from the teachers as do the verbally bright children. It is the verbal skills that bring these personal rewards from the teacher, and apparently it is these rewards that especially shape the sense of entitlement.

I also suspect that the numerical kids derive the bulk of their satisfaction from the work themselves, as opposed to the personal rewards. Compare the pride a mathematican feels upon producing a proof, to that of a writer of a book. The writer depends much more on other people's appreciation (reviews, critiques, etc.) than the mathematician, who is just happy if he found a nice proof.

48 posted on 04/22/2003 5:11:17 PM PDT by BamaGirl
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To: BamaGirl
Our explanation hypothesizes that (future) intellectuals are disproportionately represented in that portion of the schools' (official) upper class that will experience relative downward mobility. Or, rather, in the group that predicts for itself a declining future. The animus will arise before the move into the wider world and the experience of an actual decline in status, at the point when the clever pupil realizes he (probably) will fare less well in the wider society than in his current school situation.

This also makes a lot of sense with regard to some of my upper class friends -- the ones whose children have been the most well-balanced and successful are those who have a rather "middle-class" lifestyle, despite their wealth. These kids who believe that they are middle-class by definition still have the impression of possible upward mobility.

49 posted on 04/22/2003 5:22:53 PM PDT by BamaGirl
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To: laredo44
Oh, I copied exactly what you said.
50 posted on 04/22/2003 5:29:06 PM PDT by BamaGirl
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