CA: GOP's Issa says he wants Davis' job

Sac Bee ^ | 4/24/03 | Margaret Talev

[NormsRevenge]

U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, a multimillionaire Republican car-alarm magnate, said Wednesday he will devote himself personally and lend financial support to the recall campaign against Gov. Gray Davis and announced his interest in replacing the governor.

"Most people assumed I'd announce I'd be running for Senate, but I think for the people of California this is more important," the 49-year-old Issa, R-Vista, said during a telephone interview from Fresno, where he spent the day meeting with potential recall supporters in the agricultural community.

[runningbear]

I like Issa, but not too sure he'd make it to the voters at large to get the gov's seat. ummmm, maybe during the recall graydavis voting, he should press to be a write in candidate. The one with more than, I think 20%, wins the 2 part recall votes. That is how it was explained as I last listened to the details... Otherwise, I think Darryl should stay on the National ticket.. He is better off there.

[NormsRevenge]

Ping

[runningbear]

...Darryl= Darrell

[JohnnyZ]

Good decision by Issa. Wouldn't have been a good candidate for senate (friend of Arafat and whatnot, not that there's anything wrong with that), now he can annoy the heck out of Gray.

[NormsRevenge]

I agree.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Issa would've been toast against Boxer. We don't need pro-Palestinian candidates for the GOP.

[Bug]

As much as I'd like to see Davis recalled, I'm not going to sign the petition. He and the rest of the democrats who caused this mess have to deal with it.

[NormsRevenge]

Are you a California resident, homeowner, business owner or parent of a child attending school?

[Impeach98]

I am really happy to see a prominent California Republican jumping on the bandwagon, but I think we can all hope Issa himself doesn't run.

I still prefer McClintock as a conservative over Issa hands down (no competition) and Fong over Issa as a moderate-conservative (which is what Issa really is).

Issa's defense of terrorist organizations several months ago did not sit well with me. Ever since he announced he might run for U.S. Senate he's certainly tried to run the other way (and was tough on terrorist groups in Syria most recently) but I won't forgive him defense of terrorists just because he is Lebanese nor will I forgive him threatening his business partner with a gun or burning down his warehouse to collect on the insurance money or his dishonorable discharge from the military.

These are the stories I remember about Darrell Issa from his last statewide run. So yes, PLEASE, more establishment Repubbers join the Recall Effort. But Tom McClintock, Matt Fong, Bill Jones, Bill Simon - I'd be happier with any of those guys as the actual candidate for Governor.

[kellynla]

Bump for McClintok and Simon...now that I think about it, I can't think of anyone I wouldn't rather have than the Dimwit Davis...even my dog! And the dog is a lot smarter, better looking and definitely has more personality than Davis! LOL

[liberalnot]

the most disgusting piece that i've seen in 20 years of reading the los angeles times occurred in may, 1998.

this was a hit piece on issa instigated by barbara boxer.

issa was then in the republican primary and apparently boxer perceived him as a threat to her life time senatorial office. so, in one quick stroke she took him out.

the front page may, 1998 los angeles times piece accused issa of murdering his business partner back in indiana!

unbelievable, now folks, if this were true, issa would be in jail.

but, it was enough to remove him from the republican primary, and thus, remove him from competition from boxer in november, 1998.

remember, boxer did the same thing to bruce herschenson. bruce was a known--a long time los angeles television personality. boxer in her first run for the senate was basically an unknown. yes, she was known in her millbrae, ca congressional seat, but unknown outside her local area.

in another media hit piece, just the weekend before the november, 1980 election, boxer accused bruce of looking at porno at a public business. yes, bruce had stopped to look at a magazine. whether the magazine was a playboy or whatever, it did not matter--in the feminist state of california, bruce was out.

out--bruce who was leading during all of the race was embarrassed out of the race.

[Impeach98]

Issa's opposition hasn't been solely led by liberals. World Net Daily reported on his Soft-On-Terror tactics:

Do You Believe 'Jihad Darrell'? - CLICK HERE

[GraniteStateConservative]

This whole recall is stupid. Californians chose Davis. They should have to live with the consequences. Davis didn't commit any crimes other than being a bad governor. Besides, what exactly do we accomplish from this if we win (a losing effort just puts a more popular Democrat in the spot)? A GOP governor and no other Republicans statewide and no GOP strength in the legislature-- and ALL of the blame for the fiscal woes of the state (yes, he'll be blamed and don't convince yourself otherwise).

[GraniteStateConservative]

My thoughts exactly. The public supports recalls for things other than being inept. That's Davis' "crime"-- being an awful governor, and that's not enough for the voters of California or most anywhere else.

[NormsRevenge]

How about one of these ? :-}

Wed Apr 23, 5:49 PM ET

Jake, a black labrador retriever who helped search for victims after the collapse of the World Trade Centers on Sept. 11, 2001, relaxes on the sofa of his Bountiful, Utah home, Tuesday, April 22, 2003. Jake is being given recognition for his services. (AP Photo/Steve C. Wilson)

Wed Apr 23,11:27 PM ET

Snickers, a 7-year-old black Labrador retriever, conveys his temperature through a Bio-Therm chip embedded in his neck, the newest product of Digital Angel Corp. in South St. Paul, Minn., April 9, 2003. The tiny chip, an update of an identification chip already embedded in 30 million pets and livestock worldwide, will give animal owners the ability to monitor fever in animals. (AP Photo/Janet Hostetter)

Tue Apr 22,11:47 AM ET

'Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.' The winner of the Drake Relays Beautiful Bulldog Contest, 'Oliver,' a 3-year-old bulldog weighing 72 lbs., sits on his throne after being crowned at the end of the annual event in downtown Des Moines, Iowa, Monday, April 21, 2003. Oliver, who belongs to Bill Pelzer of Bettendorf, Iowa, competed against 49 other bulldogs to win and become the official mascot of the Drake Relays. (AP Photo/Alex Dorgan-Ross)

Thu Apr 24, 7:21 AM ET

Cora, an eight-month old orangutan who was purchased in Jakarta for 5 million rupiah ($580) and handed over to a government run animal shelter, is bottle-fed by a keeper from the shelter in Jakarta on April 24, 2003. The center shelters many exotic animals, including some endangered species like orangutans, confiscated from animal markets around the country or taken from owners who consider the animals a symbol of status. Orangutans, native to the islands of Sumatra and Borneo, are being pushed closer to extinction by deforestation and human negligence. REUTERS/Supri

[GraniteStateConservative]

What exactly do you expect to happen with a Gov. Issa or a Gov. Simon? They don't have magic wands.

[NormsRevenge]

The media chose Davis. Don;t try and be slick here.

[kellynla]

Well whoever runs against Boxer better be loaded for bear because she is ruthless, amoral and without a conscience.

[kellynla]

ROFLMAO!

[liberalnot]

you got that right!

people don't even know what hit'em, until afterwards.

[NormsRevenge]

So hundreds of thousands of folks are supposed to just sit by and lose their busineses and their homes and the dems are allowed to raise taxes even more? No thanks

To sit by and allow the butchering of a state and its future is ... borderline criminal, imo. I, for one, and I am not alone, will not sit by and spin like so many against the recall are doing.

I ask the same question I asked Bug earlier in post #9 and got no response to.

Oh, PS, the recall of Davis is just the first step, 2004 will require the removal of the demRats control over the legislature and probably will include some Republicans as well that have been supportive of many of the spending bills that got us in this mess.

And re:, magic wands, not needed, but responsible representatives are. If you don;t follow California politics daily, then I can't even begin to give all the details of all the other crap demRats are doing while California burns fiscally. We are insolvent for all intents and purposes.

I recommend you review some of the articles in the California sidebar topics to catch up.

[kellynla]

Ya know if you had a brain you'd be dangerous. Maybe you should stick to Arkansas politics because you know absolutey nothing about what's going on in CA. We who live in CA and are aware of the incompetence, favors for money and unethical if not illegal tactics that the Dimwit Davis has been running the governor's office is indefensible. So climb back in your pickup and move along.

[Grampa Dave]

Bingo, a friend of Arafat is not a republican or a conservative:

You posted, Issa would've been toast against Boxer. We don't need pro-Palestinian candidates for the GOP.

[Grampa Dave]

Take a deep breath. You know where I come from and feel about Davis. I still have Dump Davis stickers on my garbage cans and they finally came off my Bronco due to the winter/spring rains.

I have deep reservations about impeaching him at this time or trying to impeach him.

If we can elect more republicans to the legislature in 2004 and pull the plug on Boxer, that might be the time to impeach him if the rats haven't made him an Arkrazy suicide. Davis had best stay away from private planes or he could the be latest Rat Loser to have an air accident courtesy of his fellow rats.

[Impeach98]

You stated something that is important to focus on.

A recall is not impeachment which technically concerns the criminal actions of a President. Impeachable offenses do not HAVE to be a crime but most are and those that are not are said to cause such disrepute upon the office that it IS criminal.

Recall is a method devised by progressives to counteract the power of special interests in controlling a government. The recall, referendum and initiative process started by Hiram Johnson was designed EXACTLY for the type of situation we are in now - where the Governor is not acting in the people's interests because he is so in bed with the big moneyed special interests he is beyond rehabilitation and the people are suffering profusely because of it.

This far exceeds malfeasance in office - what Davis has done.

The standard for recall has been more than met. The question is whether the loyal opposition is going to mount the good fight to rid Gray Davis from public office once and for all. The public hates the man right now because of his failed leadership, lies, deceit and near-criminal if not outright criminal corruption.

So we FReepers are supposed to be the ones who at such times don't just talk but mount up and take proactive and positive action. I hope in the end FReepers are largely united in doing this. I've been working first upaid and then paid on this for over two months and I have no doubts we will be successful in qualifying the recall election for the November ballot.

[GraniteStateConservative]

Exactly what crimes has Davis been charged with? What crimes has he been found guilty of?

[crickets chirping]

I'm telling you that the voters of California won't support a recall for the reasons you and I hate Davis.

[GraniteStateConservative]

No, the voters did. Live in the the real world.

[GraniteStateConservative]

You, of course, have a right to seek a recall. It's just a stupid thing to do. It accomplishes not a single useful thing. California will be in the fiscal toilet for several years at least and Gov. Issa or Simon or anyone else won't be able to change that-- and worse still, the voters will blame them for not fixing the problem-- like they blamed Reagan in 1982 for Carter's continuing recession, for example.

[NormsRevenge]

Misinformed voters, misled voters, voters that were lied to.

Also, why no indictments of Davis. Lockyer, one word.

Give me a break and re: Real World.. ha ha!

you don;t pay my taxes.

[NormsRevenge]

When good people do nothing, bad people flourish and we ALL pay.

California will need some of your money very soon to bail it out. Keep up the good cheer. (chirp chirp!!)

[NormsRevenge]

Thanks for all your efforts. Some folks just don;t get it!

They will tho' .. when they are asked to bailout the cesspool that california govt has become.

It's easy to blame the "voters", but what about the non-voters or residents of other states who think they are immune from the same thing happening to them?

This idiotic remark that "the voters are getting what they deserve" only intensifies my anger at the products of socialism and the schools they have commandeered.

[CPT Clay]

Who is going to challange boxer?

[heleny]

The one with more than, I think 20%, wins the 2 part recall votes.

Just a plurality, not a specific percentage, wins the 2nd question. Assuming party discipline with one candidate per party, the winner would need about 50%; without that discipline, a candidate with a far lower percentage could win.

[runningbear]

yeah the odds are great for whom ever could win with this recall... can be scary...

[heleny]

Even scarier would be if Gray Davis resigned and handed his seat to Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante.
That would obviate a recall election against Davis, and we would be saddled with someone worse than Davis.

[kellynla]

"California will be in the fiscal toilet for several years." Wrong again buffalo breath! McClintok stated that if the state were to cut costs by 10% over the next 18 months that the budget deficit would be eliminated. I think someone from salon.com is waiting for you on the other line.

[hedgetrimmer]

You may be able to eliminate the deficit, but what about the absolutely run down infrastructure of the state? How much will it cost to fix the roads, highways and bridges? How much will it cost for new water projects so we all don't die of thirst and have our agricultural economy destroyed?

All these things must be done to get California "out of the fiscal toilet".

[pointsal]

Darrell, Darrell.... did you just make a trip to Karbala? There is no need to got beat yourself in Sacramento!

[kellynla]

Well now if you want me to solve all your problems today you will have to wire transfer a small retainer to my numbered account in Switzerland. :-)

[xm177e2]

Issa issa big fan of Hizbullah and other Arab terrorist groups, so I would rather he be a governor than in the Senate. He should be kept off the national scene and away from foreign policy.

[LdSentinal]

Wouldn't have been a good candidate for senate (friend of Arafat and whatnot, not that there's anything wrong with that),

There is something wrong with it when you're friends with a terrorist and are chummy with a dictator (Assad), who has continued Syria's brutal occupation of Lebanon.

[GOPrincess]

"When good people do nothing, bad people flourish and we ALL pay."

An excellent reminder.

It seems to me, as a starter, that Davis defrauded the voters with his pre-election budget plan, then pulled out the real one after the election. Not necessarily something one could be charged for, but any savvy voter knows it was fraudulent. Situations like that are why we have the right to recall.

Add to it all his questionable campaign "takes" (and we all know nothing will happen there with a Dem. legislature and Dem. A.G.) and there is plenty of reason for a recall.

To me the main positive reason for a recall -- rather than letting Democrats stew in their own mess -- is that we need to send a message *not* to deal with the budget crisis with tax increases. There is plenty of fat to cut out of the budget -- Davis has hugely increased his spending on social programs during his rein -- the Dems just like to threaten to cut firemen and schools to get us all to agree to the new taxes. A Davis recall will go a long ways toward waking up the Democratic legislature on the most fiscally responsible way to deal with the budget.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[Redcloak]

As screwed up as this state is, why would anyone want the job?!? It's like wanting to clean up after a 3-keg party where the salsa had gone bad and no one was sober enough to make it to the bathroom before having a gastrointestinal meltdown.

[Bug]

I ask the same question I asked Bug earlier in post #9 and got no response to.

Life intrudes Norm. I have a job. Yes, yes, no, no, and my wife and I pay huge taxes for the privilege of living here. Gray and the dems in the CA legislature are coming after my income group. And I still won't vote for the recall. Very unlikely a Republican could win, and if he did, there's not much he could do other than veto the horrible bills coming out of the legislature. And he'd get the blame when it's the fault of Davis and his cronies in the legislature.

A convincing argument could change my mind. I haven't heard one yet.

[NormsRevenge]

Thank you for the reply and glad to hear you are working. Many on this forum are not, some by choice and others , well.

Im sorry that you have such a pessimistic attitude re: the recall and if a republican was elected Governor, he (or she) would still be the one blamed for the fiscal mess in the end.

I don't agree. But let some of us here, keep trying to develop the silver bullet argument to win you over. Believe it or not, every vote does count.

We owe it to our state, our families and our futures to do all we can to send the demRat Gub and the rest of the bums packing and to the ends of the unemployment line( and not back to other govt positions as high paid "consultants").

Have a good one.

[kellynla]

ping or this one?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I was thinking of another thread where they talked about an issue he had as a yong man in Cleveland where he was raised.

His parents are Lebanese Christian and his brother had some runins with the law which Darrell got tarnished with. I am sure that is what the Democrats will dig out at the appropriate time!

Boxer used up some of the other issues!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Issa's defense of terrorist organizations several months ago did not sit well with me. Ever since he announced he might run for U.S. Senate he's certainly tried to run the other way (and was tough on terrorist groups in Syria most recently) but I won't forgive him defense of terrorists just because he is Lebanese nor will I forgive him threatening his business partner with a gun or burning down his warehouse to collect on the insurance money or his dishonorable discharge from the military.

Have you got some backgound public material for these charges?