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To: MHGinTN
They don't tell you that if they are successful in stimulating the diploid ovum into mitosis, it very well could develop into a female from the parent donor, and it could do just that. The 'limited viability' is due to the goal of the technicians in not implanting the embryo so conceived, rather than in some limiting factor of the embryo so conceived.

Absolutely false. Parthenogenetic organisms almost invariably either develop abnormally when implanted, or fail to develop at all. The limiting factor is within the organism itself, not simply because they don't intend to implant it.

46 posted on 04/24/2003 9:31:10 PM PDT by general_re (You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me....)
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To: general_re
I should say that this is true for organisms that don't naturally engage in parthenogenesis, where it is artificially induced - some organisms naturally reproduce via parthenogenesis, and do it quite successfully. But humans, like most higher organisms, do not, and parthenogenetic organisms from higher orders are almost invariably a miserable failure when one attempts to grow them normally...
47 posted on 04/24/2003 9:41:05 PM PDT by general_re (You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me....)
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To: general_re
Have there ever been parthenogenically conceived mammalian organisms born?... Yes. I happen to have gone to the trouble of researching this line of assertion by these scientists. They do not intend to implant the parthenogenic conceived embryos (and that's what these will be, embryos), so they see no ,oral conflict in doing the science. Then they further add that too often anomalous organisms are born from such a methodology. Ask yourself, would they use these embryos for treating humans, if there were anomalies? Wouldn't they work to eliminate the anomalies and in so doing bring these embryos conceived via parthenogenesis to a gestatable state? You can count on it!... but they still vow to not allow these so conceived embryos to grow to birth age.
48 posted on 04/24/2003 9:42:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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