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With Apple Stalling, Steve Jobs Looks to Digital Entertainment
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Friday, April 25, 2003 | PUI-WING TAM, BRUCE ORWALL and ANNA WILDE MATHEWS

Posted on 04/25/2003 6:26:16 AM PDT by TroutStalker

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:48:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

About a month ago, Steve Jobs, the chief executive of Apple Computer Inc. and Pixar Animation Studios, made a plea to Irving Azoff, the manager of the rock group the Eagles.

According to Mr. Azoff, Mr. Jobs called to ask that music by the Eagles be included in a new online music service that Apple is launching on Monday. "Please, please, please clear this," Mr. Jobs said, knowing the Eagles in the past have blocked the use of their songs on digital-music services. Mr. Jobs even offered to personally demonstrate the service for Mr. Azoff and to make his case directly to Eagles singer Don Henley.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; stevejobs

1 posted on 04/25/2003 6:26:16 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker
Just bought my kid a new computer. She had an Imac but wanted more power. I told her I'd get her anything she wanted except an apple product.

With Algore on their board, they have to die.
2 posted on 04/25/2003 6:35:22 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
With Algore on their board, they have to die.

They aren't going to die and shouldn't. However, getting rid of Gore would be an excellent idea. Why Mr. Jobs added Gore in the first place is beyond me. Talk about a lose-lose scenario!

3 posted on 04/25/2003 7:02:05 AM PDT by toddst
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To: toddst
I thing he's waiting for Gore to invent something new and revolutionary. Like, ya know, hes soooo smart.
4 posted on 04/25/2003 7:04:30 AM PDT by fml (freedom begins with W!)
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To: toddst
Take a look at this.
5 posted on 04/25/2003 7:09:20 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: toddst
Why Mr. Jobs added Gore in the first place is beyond me.

He wanted a compliant idiot for window dressing. Gore fits that bill.

6 posted on 04/25/2003 7:10:09 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: TroutStalker
Realisticly, the Mac hardware platform is limiting them. They have a huge amount of software that runs on OS/X, which is essentially Unix. If Jobs were able to release his hottest products so they could run on Linux and Solaris platforms, he would greatly increase his user base.
7 posted on 04/25/2003 7:10:41 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: toddst
Gore's responsibilities on the board amount to approving Steve Job's salary (currrently $1.00 per year) and voting on mergers and acquisitions. In other words, nothing.

Apple still has one position open on the board of directors, and although it's tempting to hope that they would appoint a political conservative for "balance", I'd prefer they get a business icon who could make a real contribution - like Lou Gerstner, for instance.

8 posted on 04/25/2003 7:12:32 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: SauronOfMordor
Actually, if they took Cocoa and made it X-Windows compliant, they'd have a practical winner on their hands.
9 posted on 04/25/2003 7:12:35 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau
Actually, if they took Cocoa and made it X-Windows compliant, they'd have a practical winner on their hands.

See www.gnustep.org. It is based on the same OpenStep as Cocoa.

10 posted on 04/25/2003 7:27:00 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: toddst
Yes, they just lost about fifteen hundred bucks.
11 posted on 04/25/2003 8:07:37 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I told her I'd get her anything she wanted except an apple product. With Algore on their board, they have to die.

I still have my iMac, and so does Rush.

12 posted on 04/25/2003 8:11:52 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: glorgau
Actually, if they took Cocoa and made it X-Windows compliant, they'd have a practical winner on their hands.

There already is an X11 that runs on OS X.

13 posted on 04/25/2003 8:14:30 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
they have to die.

I completely agree. Having choices in a capitalist economy is so repugnant......

14 posted on 04/25/2003 8:16:46 AM PDT by mgstarr
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To: TroutStalker
For one, music bought through Apple's service will be protected so that it will be more difficult to use an iPod to transfer songs from one computer to another. Users also won't be able easily to e-mail copies of their purchases, or transfer them to the computers of friends. (However, a customer will be able to play the songs on up to three Macintosh computers that he or she designates, as well as an unlimited number of personal iPods registered to him or her.)

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... and that is why consumers will not want the system. These people are naive. They need to pay attention to consumers and not to their own egos. Consumers do NOT want to be tied to some Rights Gestapo. I buy it its mine. A copyright, like all intelectual rights, is LIMITED. You do not have unfettered enforcement ability.
AOL has it wrong and Apple has it wrong. These are efforts to limit consumers, selling limitation is a loosing proposition. sell apple.

BTW: I am certain disney will have their own computer animators by 2005.
15 posted on 04/25/2003 8:25:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: BlazingArizona; glorgau
Actually, if they took Cocoa and made it X-Windows compliant, they'd have a practical winner on their hands.

It is a shame that this article doesn't list OS X as a major accomplishment, because it is.

I work at a research lab that is seriously looking at OS X to replace both our Unix boxes and PCs. We run a lot of proprietary Unix-based apps but need the outputs put into slick documents and powerpoint slides. And the hurdles to get everything post-processed and moved from the SGIs to the PCs are a nightmare.

Management set up two teams to experiment with porting to other platforms. The OS X team required a simple recompile- 90% of the work was done in "half an hour". All of our Unix apps work seamlessly through X11. The Windows team took about six months to get about 5% ported as many helper apps and libraries had to be rewritten from scratch. They're still at it.

So far, OS X is looking very attractive- even the sysadmins like it 'cause they just bring up the terminal and proceed as usual (the gui is just eyecandy). But the important thing is, that since Microsoft's Office suite is ported to Mac, all of our production work can be done on one machine. Our Unix-side outputs can simply be 'dragged-and-dropped' into Word documents. I don't usually particpate it the FR technology wars and I'm not a sysadmin or a programmer, but I am extremely impressed by OS X.

16 posted on 04/25/2003 9:40:26 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
... they just bring up the terminal and proceed as usual ...

A phrase I saw on Slashdot was "it wizzes all over /etc" :-)
A bunch of that stuff has been modified to work with NetInfo (which will go away soon I hope) other than that, for the scientific Unix apps, I don't see why anyone would want to use anything else!

17 posted on 04/25/2003 2:19:29 PM PDT by glorgau
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