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Suspicious Iraqi Drums - UPDATE
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Posted on 04/26/2003 5:01:53 PM PDT by arkady_renko

 

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Preliminary testing has detected chemical agents in one of 14 metal drums found in northern Iraq.

(ABCNEWS.com)

 
Suspicious Iraqi Drums

Preliminary Testing Suggests Chemical Agents; More Testing Needed

ABCNEWS.com

N E A R  B A Y J I, Iraq, April 26

— Preliminary testing has detected chemical agents in a 55-gallon drum found in northern Iraq near missiles, warheads and suspicious vehicles, ABCNEWS has learned.

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In recent weeks, U.S. forces have found a number of suspicious containers in Iraq that initial tests suggested contained potentially dangerous chemical agents. But the earlier finds turned out to be false alarms.

However, a Pentagon official said the fact that these chemicals were found with warheads raises the level of interest.

Besides 14 unmarked barrels, one of which was tested, a U.S. Special Forces reconnaissance team on Friday found at least a dozen missiles and 150 gas masks at the site east of Bayji, Iraq, about 130 miles northwest of Baghdad. Also raising suspicions were partially looted vehicles at the site with dosage charts inside.

A platoon of chemical weapons experts from the Army's 1-10 Cavalry was dispatched immediately to check out the discovery, and it took most of the night to secure the area.

This morning, Lt. Valerie Phipps and her squad used three different methods to test liquid from one of the barrels. The preliminary tests showed it to be a mixture of three chemicals, including a nerve agent and blistering agent. Phipps said the tests have an accuracy of 98 percent.

Phipps gave ABCNEWS an exclusive tour of the site.

More Tests Needed

The military plans to conduct further tests on the barrels. An international team of chemical weapons experts is expected to visit the site Sunday.

According to the Pentagon official, the military does not have testing equipment in Iraq that is sophisticated enough to eliminate all pesticides. Because pesticides can give a false positive, anything found will be sent to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland for further testing.

It will take about a week from the time the chemicals are shipped out of Iraq to the time the military has positive identification, the official said.

Missiles and Vehicles

Besides the unmarked barrels that were lying out in the open, missiles — some still in their shipping containers — were visible nearby, along with two specially equipped vehicles that Phipps speculated might be mobile chemical labs.

Looters already had stripped the vehicles of their tires and other portable equipment. But inside were charts listing various dosage levels, a workstation in the back, and in the middle what appeared to be a giant, Russian-made mixing device.

Local residents said the material was dumped at the location by Iraqi troops the day after U.S. forces took Baghdad. They said an Iraqi officer stayed behind and stood watch over the material for two more days.

False Alarms

Despite initial appearances, officials in Washington were stressing caution on the Bayji discovery, particularly in light of earlier false alarms.

On April 7, at an Iraqi military camp near Karbala, U.S. troops discovered two dozen drums that initially tested positive for Sarin and mustard gas. Later, the U.S. military determined the chemicals were pesticides.

On April 10, outside Baghdad, U.S. forces found a mobile radar truck also thought to be a mobile chemical weapons laboratory. It wasn't.

The misinterpretations may have come because some of the same chemicals used to make Sarin, one of the most dangerous nerve agents, and mustard gas, a colorless lethal substance, are also used to make pesticides, chemical weapons experts say.

"The technologies are virtually identical," said Kyle Olson, a terrorism expert and an ABCNEWS consultant. "It's simply a question of changing the recipe."

While U.S. forces have been unable so far to find weapons of mass destruction, they have gas masks, antidotes for chemical weapons, and even some documents that support the notion of an Iraqi weapons of mass destruction program, officials say.

ABCNEWS' David Wright near Bayji, Iraq, and Lisa Sylvester at the Pentagon contributed to this report.

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KEYWORDS: aberdeen; chemicals; drums; illegalweapons; iraqifreedom; missiles; pictures
I Know, I know...

A_R

1 posted on 04/26/2003 5:01:53 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: arkady_renko
Inching closer..........we'll get there.
2 posted on 04/26/2003 5:04:39 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: ohioWfan
Looters already had stripped the vehicles of their tires and other portable equipment. But inside were charts listing various dosage levels, a workstation in the back, and in the middle what appeared to be a giant, Russian-made mixing device.

Local residents said the material was dumped at the location by Iraqi troops the day after U.S. forces took Baghdad. They said an Iraqi officer stayed behind and stood watch over the material for two more days.

Must have wanted to be sure that nobody mis-used the pesticides in the drums...

A_R

3 posted on 04/26/2003 5:10:03 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: arkady_renko
The timing is most interesting.

Dumped by Iraqi troops the day after Baghdad fell?

Seems a bit curious to hide 'bug-killer' and guard it for more than two days when you know your country is in the hands of the infidels, does it not?

4 posted on 04/26/2003 5:15:32 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: arkady_renko
This seems much more promising than previous finds.

And they DID end up finding pesticides at the FIRST ballyhooed site; it was an agricultural station, and the drums were rusting, and in more of a trench than "buried."

This seems like a far more military site.

5 posted on 04/26/2003 5:19:51 PM PDT by John H K
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To: arkady_renko
What makes this an update?

MM

6 posted on 04/26/2003 5:29:33 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: arkady_renko
========= IRAQI MISSILES AND WMD =========

========= Chemical Warhead found in Kirkuk =============

Chemical warhead at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band,
the symbol for chemical weaponry. Trace amounts of a nerve agent was found
in two spots on the ~meter long warhead. The amounts could be consistent with
leakage from a chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next
to it.


In Kerbala, found in an Iraqi military training camp are
banned chemical agents similar to pesticides.
Initial investigations reveal sarin and tabun and the blister agent lewisite.
Non. Mais non? Could that be French on the containers?


========= IRAQI MISSILES [So many missed by the Klowns) =========

In central Baghdad, Iraqi missiles are found everywhere.


Near Baghdad, US military found and tows an Iraqi missile.


Near Baghdad, at a weapons development facility, another Iraqi missile.


In Baghdad, captured Iraqi Scud missiles at the the University of Baghdad.


In and near Baghdad, more abandoned trailors loaded with Iraqi al-Samoud 2 missiles.


In Kerbala, even more Iraqi missiles found.



7 posted on 04/26/2003 5:30:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: arkady_renko
Patience. There are there and we will find them. BTW, you have a cool posting name. I have always enjoyed those books. Polar Star was my favorite.
8 posted on 04/26/2003 5:40:27 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: MississippiMan
What makes this an update?

I posted a shorter version of this story to this earlier in the day. It had no real details - this is the update to the earlier ABC story. It was also featured on ABC World News Tonight.

A_R

9 posted on 04/26/2003 5:42:48 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: cardinal4
Polar Star was my favorite.

Mine too. Great author.

A_R

10 posted on 04/26/2003 5:44:34 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Diogenesis
The entire country is one vast ammo dump. The late Iraqi regieme didn't care where it placed weapons and most certainly didn't care who they might hurt or kill.
11 posted on 04/26/2003 6:02:29 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Bush-Cheney: four more years!)
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To: Wolfstar
"The entire country is one vast ammo dump"

I have been shocked at the ammount of explosive "stuff" they had lying around. I'm really grateful that the people were not greatly motivated to us the stuff against coalition forces. I wonder how much food and medicine the money spent on all the military hardware could have bought.

12 posted on 04/26/2003 6:10:58 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: arkady_renko
Must have wanted to be sure that nobody mis-used the pesticides in the drums...

Of course, you wouldn't want the innocent cockroaches to be killed by mistake.
13 posted on 04/26/2003 6:46:01 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Beware the Fedayeen Rodham!)
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To: arkady_renko
Seven DAYS??? Blix and Company did their testing in seven MINUTES!
14 posted on 04/26/2003 6:55:12 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: arkady_renko
But I'm not believing anything until I hear from DEBKA.
15 posted on 04/26/2003 7:01:34 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Diogenesis
The Democrats:

Wrong on the War

Wrong on WMD

Wrong on the Economy

16 posted on 04/26/2003 7:07:30 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Convicted felons for Kerry)
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To: arkady_renko
I posted a shorter version of this story to this earlier in the day. It had no real details.

Okay, thanks.

MM

17 posted on 04/26/2003 7:14:53 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: arkady_renko
These drums could be trouble!


18 posted on 04/26/2003 7:45:17 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred
They're everywhere, they're everywhere!!!


19 posted on 04/26/2003 8:08:03 PM PDT by AgThorn (Continue to pray for our Troops!!)
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To: arkady_renko
The thing that interests me is how men can exibit the same symptoms of nerve agent on exposure to these "agricultural" agents that are stored with their missile "applicators" and the media still calls them pesticides! Perhaps they think Kurds are pests.

Most of these "pesticides" are found in military bases with special artilery rounds or missiles fitted with chemical dispersing warheads. Perhaps it is a strange form of Farm subsidy, the farmers do not need to spray their crops, The Iraqi army, had missile and artilery applicators...

20 posted on 04/26/2003 8:39:15 PM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong)
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To: arkady_renko; WarSlut
bttt
21 posted on 04/26/2003 8:53:49 PM PDT by cgk (Op. Iraqi Freedom Hero Tribute: http://home.earthlink.net/~mrskoz/index.html)
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To: arkady_renko
John Loftus reported last night on WABC radio that barrels of potassium cyanide had been found. I've been looking for more info about this--perhaps this is what he was referring to.
22 posted on 04/26/2003 8:59:41 PM PDT by randita
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To: arkady_renko
Here's a question no one seems to ask:

WHY would you need PESTICIDES in the DESERT ????

23 posted on 04/26/2003 9:15:29 PM PDT by zeebee
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred
No kidding - ya see them down in Seattle on teh streets all the time... Dangerous buggers, those...
24 posted on 04/26/2003 9:16:58 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (For mad scientists who keep brains in jars, here's a tip: add a slice of lemon for freshness.)
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To: zeebee
Sand flies.
25 posted on 04/26/2003 9:21:32 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: arkady_renko
Potenital...

One of the most potentially dangerous chemicals is film developer. You can make anything with it. One of the ingredients in ball point pen inck is also easy to convert into nerve gas and other gasses.

26 posted on 04/26/2003 10:53:06 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Rome2000
>The Democrats:
>Wrong on the War
>Wrong on WMD
>Wrong on the Economy

Their latest lie is that the media is conservative (I guess because FOX got the above right).

I suppose they want 100% liberal media. Then the facts will look like a surprise.

27 posted on 04/27/2003 3:10:15 AM PDT by The Raven (Socialism is a weapon of mass destruction)
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To: zeebee
"WHY would you need PESTICIDES in the DESERT ???? "

Sand fleas?
28 posted on 04/27/2003 4:02:02 AM PDT by TN4Liberty
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To: TN4Liberty
"WHY would you need PESTICIDES in the DESERT ???? "

Near the river areas, they have substantial agriculture. Before the first Gulf War, they could feed themselves. So even this desert country could feed 30 million.
29 posted on 04/27/2003 4:40:48 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: arkady_renko
Pesticides are deadly poisons; talk about "dual use".
Has anyone asked why ONLY the Fox person was identified as being a looter? Couldn't possibly be media bias against conservatives, could it? (sarcastically stated).
30 posted on 04/27/2003 6:24:36 AM PDT by DianaN (Eternal Freedom)
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To: arkady_renko
It'll be hard to find the stuff they carted to Syria.
31 posted on 04/27/2003 6:29:56 AM PDT by DianaN (Eternal Freedom)
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To: Diogenesis
You keep posting these pictures, why? None of the stuff you shown could even get off the ground.
32 posted on 04/27/2003 8:45:52 AM PDT by ido_now
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To: arkady_renko
A photo of Blind Blix going past those drums on one of his phoney searches for WMD's!


33 posted on 04/27/2003 9:16:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: arkady_renko
Tonto! Isn't that the sound of...?

Mmmm, Yes, KemoSabe! Suspicious Iraqi drums....


34 posted on 04/28/2003 7:40:47 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: arkady_renko
bump
35 posted on 06/04/2003 6:42:05 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld,Rice 2004)
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