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Is Hillary Lying? (New York and American voters need to know)
newsmax ^ | April 27, 2003 | Geoff Metcalf

Posted on 04/27/2003 12:21:02 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Is Hillary Lying?

The recent dustup over author-publisher-defender of the indefensible Steven Brill and his shocking claim that Sen. Hillary Clinton made up records about how she helped 9/11 families is very interesting.

The controversy involves three liberal Democrat sycophants: Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer and Steven Brill.

I have often noted that it is not a question of WHO is right or wrong but WHAT is right or wrong. I still hold true to that axiom despite my unbridled antipathy for all three of the players in this neodrama. Give the devil his due.

According to Brill, Hillary Clinton had her staff manufacture/fabricate records of meetings and phone calls to families of victims of the Sept. 11 attacks to create the fiction that the ice princess was a warm, caring, compassionate representative of constituents traumatized by the epic tragedy of 9/11.

Brill said Sen. Clinton’s staff tried to persuade him that she worked hard to help, and offered "an elaborate story, with an elaborate subtext of memos and phone calls – a long, long story." However, according to Brill, "None of it turned out to be true. ... They gave me documents and phone calls and things like that which just plain never happened."

Subsequently, after five days of “no comment,” Hillary responded. After Bill O’Reilly exposed the story, Sen. Clinton's spokesman Philippe Reines attacked Brill.

"Brill's accusations are completely false and an obvious last ditch effort to jump-start anemic book sales," Reines said. So why didn’t the ubiquitous New York senator speak for herself?

Efforts to exploit and capitalize on the difficulty of 9/11 victims are regarded as a crime lower than a man killing his wife and unborn child on Christmas Eve.

During the Monica Lewinsky mess Brill defended the indefensible ad nauseam. However, reportedly, when Hillary learned he was writing a 9/11 book, he says she actually sought him out and said, "I hear you want to talk to me about your book."

Brill claims after private talks, "She did follow up in one non-off-the-record conversation, urging me that the person responsible for aid to New York City was not Chuck Schumer but Hillary Clinton."

Although my contempt for Schumer rivals revulsion for the Clintons, Chuck is the guy who did the heavy lifting servicing 9/11 constituents … NOT Hillary.

Brill details the story of one family specifically, the Cartiers, who suffered the loss of a relative in the Twin Towers.

"This family had tried repeatedly to get Hillary Clinton to meet with them," Brill said. "And always the staff said: 'Write up a memo. We don't meet with any families unless they write to us first and tell us what they want to meet about.' "

"They said to me the only time families can meet with Hillary Clinton is if it's at a press conference." Or (unstated), I presume, if they have a big campaign contribution check to deliver …

Meanwhile, Brill notes, Sen. Schumer took time out on a Sunday to meet with the Cartiers – "no reporters, no cameras, no nothing." Then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Schumer worked to provide the Cartier family access to Ground Zero and to Fresh Kills, the Staten Island recovery site, so they could search for their relative's remains. Hillary was otherwise occupied.

Brill repeated his allegations on O'Reilly's nationally syndicated "Radio Factor" show. However, when he appeared later on the talk host's TV show, Brill tried to downplay the impact of his account.

O'Reilly told Brill, "I think you're afraid." And he should be … the Clintons play hardball.

But this controversy should be a no-brainer IF the malfeasance of the mainstream media were not epidemic. Basically, we have a contradiction of "he said/she said."

Brill claims Hillary inflated her role in servicing her 9/11 constituents.

He claims her staff fabricated phony documentation of her efforts.

He claims Chuck Schumer worked hard for 9/11 victim families and Hillary did not.

Hillary (through a spokesman) says Brill is lying. Here’s the deal! It is not brain surgery … but it IS important.

To borrow a Drudgism, ABCCBSNBCCNNFoxCNNNewYorkTimesWashingtonPost need only to follow up and confirm or refute the claims made by Brill and the counter claims made by Sen. Clinton. The story cannot be black AND white and it will not be revealed to be any shade of gray.

Either Steven Brill or Hillary Clinton is lying.

This is, or should be, a big deal. If a U.S. senator (allegedly with aspirations to run for the presidency) has lied AND manufactured false supporting documentation to buff up a tarnished public image … AND has exploited the tragedy of constituents AND attempted to diminish the laudable efforts of her Democratic colleague, New York and American voters need to know.

If a prejudiced fourth estate is incapable of exploring facts that may contradict its preconceived opinions and personal wants ... it is not worth a bucket of spit.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clinton; hillary; hillaryclintion; liar; senator; stevenbrill
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1 posted on 04/27/2003 12:21:02 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Is Hillary Lying?

Are her lips moving?

2 posted on 04/27/2003 12:23:43 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( Midnight at the Oasis)
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To: TLBSHOW
Is Hillary Lying?

More appropriate question - IS HILLARY TELLING THE TRUTH?

3 posted on 04/27/2003 12:25:24 PM PDT by b4its2late (This post is over.)
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To: b4its2late
Hitlery must be shown the door!
4 posted on 04/27/2003 12:26:44 PM PDT by timestax
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To: TLBSHOW
The more apt question is what is Hillary lying about?
5 posted on 04/27/2003 12:27:33 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: TLBSHOW
The sad thing is, Chillary's original answer, something to the effect that... now is not the time for some politician to be involved with the families, they should be allowed to grive in private..was wonderful and would have stood the test of time.
6 posted on 04/27/2003 12:27:38 PM PDT by stylin19a (2 wrongs don't make a right.....but 3 rights make a left)
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To: stylin19a
grive=grieve
7 posted on 04/27/2003 12:29:04 PM PDT by stylin19a (2 wrongs don't make a right.....but 3 rights make a left)
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To: EggsAckley
Is Hillary Lying?

Are her lips moving? - My thoughts exactly!

8 posted on 04/27/2003 12:32:53 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: TLBSHOW
This story cannot die. What can we do about it? Hillary has to be stopped yesterday. We are running out of time.
9 posted on 04/27/2003 12:33:12 PM PDT by doug from upland (- to Bill -"You are not fit to be commander in chief" -- father of Sgt. Shughart who died in Somalia)
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To: TLBSHOW
In all the bruhaha over what Hillary Clinton did or did not do for the 9/11 families, we tend forget that she was scheduled to attend the single most important hearing of her career on the morning of 9/11. The Senate Education Committee was holding a hearing at which Mrs. Bush was to testify. The media was there in force. When the planes hit, the hearing was called off. The Chairman (Ted Kennedy) and Mrs. Bush were at the Capitol and addressed the media. No Hillary Clinton. According the the New York Times (some months later), she just doesn't miss hearings, especially one as media important as this one. When the hearing was held (in late January, 2002), Hillary was there early and posed for photo ops with Mrs. Bush. Why wasn't she there on 9/11? Was she advised (say by the husband, he was in Australia at the time) not to go? Since Hillary has never explained her not being there, it is appropriate to ask: "What did she know and when did she know it"?
10 posted on 04/27/2003 12:34:14 PM PDT by Pharlap
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To: Bogey78O
The more apt question is what is Hillary lying about?

The more apt. question really is what is Hillary NOT lying about?

11 posted on 04/27/2003 12:36:14 PM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: TLBSHOW
Is Hillary Lying?-Yes! ,no doubt about it.
12 posted on 04/27/2003 12:36:42 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: TLBSHOW
It would be so wonderful if the liberal media would follow up on this. They won't unless it becomes an internet scandal.
13 posted on 04/27/2003 12:39:44 PM PDT by Iris7 (Sufficient for evil to triumph is for good people to be imprudent.)
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To: TLBSHOW
What I would like to know is what is in Hillary's thesis at Wellesley college, that she had sealed.

O'Reilly was interviewed by Tim Russert yesterday, and he mentioned this. It is the first I heard of it.
Student theses are always public, anyone can read it, except Hillary's.

Why is Hillary's sealed?!

Is it her "Mein Kampf" of how she is going to achieve power and turn the US into a socialist country?

I am surprised that in all these years, nobody brought it up or demanded that she unseal her thesis, which should be public.
14 posted on 04/27/2003 12:43:07 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Pharlap
"Why wasn't she there on 9/11? Was she advised (say by the husband, he was in Australia at the time) not to go? Since Hillary has never explained her not being there, it is appropriate to ask: "What did she know and when did she know it"? "

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I didn't know about this, but you are right, it is curious, Bill being in Australia and Hillary not showing up at the Capital on just that day.
15 posted on 04/27/2003 12:45:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: TLBSHOW
Hildabeast & her husband the former rapist-in-chief lie as easily as most people breath. If Brill states there's a major flaw in what Hillary reports to have done immediately after 9/11 to help constituents that were victimized by this tragic event ... then rest assured the witch, once again, is lying.
16 posted on 04/27/2003 12:45:52 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: green team 1999
Liberal Republican congressman Sherwood Boehlert says be civil to Hillary Clinton on his govt web site and sides with democrats and rats and a liberal newspaper. Does he not know Hillary is a liar and protects a rapist?

BARF ALERT.....

Proud of Being Civil to Hillary


http://www.house.gov/boehlert/oneontastarl0307.htm


17 posted on 04/27/2003 12:46:35 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: TLBSHOW
She is just ahead of her time. Afterall, she was named after a famous mountain climber before he ever climbed that mountain.
18 posted on 04/27/2003 12:48:34 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doeth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Does a bear s*** in the woods?
19 posted on 04/27/2003 12:48:43 PM PDT by Cannon6
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To: Mark
NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON

Stormer classic with all truth about the commie rats in America like Hillary Clinton!
20 posted on 04/27/2003 12:50:25 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: TLBSHOW
Hillary's entire life is a lie.
21 posted on 04/27/2003 12:54:59 PM PDT by SAMWolf ([OVERFLOW ERROR(n): computer vomit)
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To: TLBSHOW
Come now, the Queen of New York cannot be bothered with New York peons. How common. Demoted from co-president to mere Senator was bad enough, but to meet with and be touched by the peons of that state? You must be joking!
22 posted on 04/27/2003 12:57:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: doug from upland; b4its2late
Yeah, I'd love to see the witch ejected from her comfortable chair in the Senate.

But you forget what part of the country she 'represents'. Presumably either the people in that area don't read, or they're in denial as to what kind of person they elected. Either way, it isn't very likely they're going to change their minds.
23 posted on 04/27/2003 12:58:23 PM PDT by DED (Liberals Never Learn. *LNL*)
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To: b4its2late
Has hell frozen
24 posted on 04/27/2003 12:59:00 PM PDT by sticker
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To: timestax
Hitlery must be shown the door!

Hitlery will never be shown the door, she's in the one place that will keep her safe until she makes her run at the presidency.

25 posted on 04/27/2003 1:05:33 PM PDT by mrb1960
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To: timestax
Hitlery must be shown the door!

Yes, the door of an airplane.

As long as their are RATS and feminazi's, Hitlery will be around for a while folks. She will lie, cheat, steal and be corrupt at any costs to stay in public office to advance her quasi-socialist agendas.

Lying is second nature to the beast.

26 posted on 04/27/2003 1:16:22 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70
their=there
27 posted on 04/27/2003 1:18:35 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: TLBSHOW
"Is Hillary Lying?"

Are her lips moving?

28 posted on 04/27/2003 1:21:30 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: SAMWolf
Did you ever notice in the movie, "The Manchurian Candidate", just how similar Hildebeast is to the character of the power-mad mother,(Angela Lansbury),of Sergeant Raymond Shaw?

Did you ever notice who was the first character to get it between the eyes?

Does fiction ever become reality?

Andy Rooney, wants to know.

Mustang sends from "Malpaso" News.
29 posted on 04/27/2003 1:27:29 PM PDT by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: FairOpinion
Sorta/kinda like Bubba Bill's medical records ... sealed.

g

30 posted on 04/27/2003 1:30:57 PM PDT by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: Pharlap
Was it just coincidence that Barbara Olsen was on one of the planes that went down ?
31 posted on 04/27/2003 1:32:06 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: TLBSHOW
Is hillary lying

If she is still consuming oxygen then YES
32 posted on 04/27/2003 1:32:39 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Mustang
Good comparison. I always saw Hillary as Peyton Flanders (Mrs. Mott) the character Rebecca DeMornay played in "Hand That Rocks the Cradle"
33 posted on 04/27/2003 1:37:23 PM PDT by SAMWolf ([OVERFLOW ERROR(n): computer vomit])
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To: TLBSHOW
NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.

I read it years and years ago. It should be re-printed. Excellent book and so true.

34 posted on 04/27/2003 1:43:26 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Is Hillary Lying?

Everytime she opens her mouth!

35 posted on 04/27/2003 1:45:48 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (***You have the right to say what you want ! We have the right not to listen !***)
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To: TLBSHOW
toooo delicious.
36 posted on 04/27/2003 1:50:18 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (I love Rummy!)
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I hope Brill's life insurance policy is up to date...
37 posted on 04/27/2003 1:59:49 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: maxwellp
there is a updated version from 1990

Stormer, None Dare Call It Treason; Stormer, None Dare Call It Treason...25 Years Later, paperback, (Flourissant, MO: Liberty Bell Press, 1992 {hardcover, 1990}).




and

None Dare Call it Education
by John Stormer.
What's happening to our schools and our children.

38 posted on 04/27/2003 2:03:33 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: TLBSHOW
Brill said Sen. Clinton’s staff tried to persuade him that she worked hard to help, and offered "an elaborate story, with an elaborate subtext of memos and phone calls – a long, long story." However, according to Brill, "None of it turned out to be true. ... They gave me documents and phone calls and things like that which just plain never happened."

Surprise, surprise.

39 posted on 04/27/2003 2:09:49 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: TLBSHOW
Get real, everybody knows Hitlery is a liar. Just like that trailerpark trash scumbag she's married to.
40 posted on 04/27/2003 2:10:59 PM PDT by MissEdie
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To: b4its2late
no
41 posted on 04/27/2003 2:11:41 PM PDT by MissEdie
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To: TLBSHOW
<< Is Hillary Lying? >>

I dunno. Is her mouth moving?
42 posted on 04/27/2003 2:12:32 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cannon6
Does a bear s*** in the woods?

Well, yes actually!


43 posted on 04/27/2003 2:13:06 PM PDT by jslade
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To: TLBSHOW
Is her mouth open?
44 posted on 04/27/2003 2:15:37 PM PDT by njmaugbill
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To: TLBSHOW
DOES A BEAR S_IT IN THE WOODS?
45 posted on 04/27/2003 2:51:34 PM PDT by ido_now
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To: TLBSHOW
I believe it was William Safire who referred to Hillary Clinton as a "congenital liar" in a New York Times op-ed piece a few years ago.

Hillary is the most evil and dangerous political figure in American history. There is nothing the woman would not do to achieve and hold power. The woman could literally bring back concentration camps, without remorse, to deal with her enemies in politics.

I believe Hillary was behind the barbecue of the Branch Davidians and Vince Foster knew it.

Former FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene reported it was Hillary who was behind hiring the infamous Craig Livingstone. The agent was intimidated by his own fellow agents to change his story.

46 posted on 04/27/2003 2:52:22 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: DED
Presumably either the people in that area don't read, or they're in denial as to what kind of person they elected.

Ugh, well, There are a lot of really, really ugly Marxists in New York. They like Hillary. They voted for Hillary and they do not care one iota that she is Lucifer's daughter.

I suppose there may be a few hundred people in New York that can tolerate the Bill of Rights and Constitution, but like every where else, their political power is near zero.

47 posted on 04/27/2003 3:00:27 PM PDT by FreeRadical (Buy Guns for your Kids. Teach them to Hate people like Hillary.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Watching Brill, Hillary and Schumer fight is like watching your current mother-in-law fight with your ex-wife.
48 posted on 04/27/2003 3:22:23 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: TLBSHOW
>>>Is Hillary Lying?

Now THERE'S a stupid title.....
49 posted on 04/27/2003 3:30:52 PM PDT by 4mycountry (Anyone can be average---it takes something special to be weird. I am honored to be weird.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Whaddaya mean, is she lying???????

Is she breathing? Is she walking, talking, smiling, frowning, smirking, playing, walking, running, pole-vaulting, flying, yelling, frolicking, eating, breathing, typing, speaking, listening, thinking, eating, sleeping, dreaming, sitting, driving, typing, turning, squirming, blanking, you-name-it ..... if "yes" to any of the above: she is LYING!!!!!! Anytime, anywhere, on anything: she IS LYING! That's all she knows... it is all she has ever done!

50 posted on 04/27/2003 3:50:47 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds
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