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Egyptian Sailor Dies in Brazil From Anthrax- Brazil Police
Reuters ^ | April 28, 2003

Posted on 04/28/2003 10:28:14 AM PDT by Shermy

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To: Badabing Badaboom
The CIA says it is certain that al Qaeda was behind the attempted attack on an American city.

Unnamed source. Heck, they don't even say an "unnamed source" said it.

Anyway, the Canadians seem very fast to say "non" at every stage of this investigation.

381 posted on 04/29/2003 3:41:36 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Allan
Bump
382 posted on 04/29/2003 6:43:35 PM PDT by Allan
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To: Badabing Badaboom; Shermy
The man, named as Ibrahim Saved Soliman, probably did not know what was in the case when he opened it in a Brazilian hotel room, police said.

They would only know this (after his death) if the hotel room was infected. I wonder where he stayed in...Sao Paulo?

383 posted on 04/29/2003 8:05:25 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Badabing Badaboom
In answer to: [anyone remember 4 MEs in Texas last year?]

I think there were a couple of different incidents. Check out these links:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/656518/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/656879/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/717493/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/717609/posts?page=10#10

I have no idea if these have any significance.
384 posted on 04/29/2003 9:23:24 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Badabing Badaboom; Mitchell; Fred Mertz; birdwoman; oceanview; bonfire
It doesn't make sense. Think through the logic. Bush wouldn't have attacked until he knew he had a deal. What was the deal - attack and destroy billions of dollars in infrastructure, kill lots of civilians and Iraqi military, drive to Baghdad, and then spirit me and my boys away? That makes no sense. If that was the deal, he would have split during the 48 hours.

It makes perfect sense. Saddam refused Bush's exile deal before the war because he thought we were bluffing. He thought we wouldn't risk a WMD exchange in the end game. (Perhaps he also thought he could pull off a Stalingrad in Baghdad -- we don't know.) Bush decided we had no choice but to take that risk, given the magnitude of the provocation and the threat, so he upped the ante and went in -- but taking care to leave Saddam with something to play for all the way to the end (faux "decapitation strikes" notwithstanding). Don't forget, we had a back-channel through Putin for 18 months before the war and during the war -- a channel to communicate with Saddam, to confound him, perhaps, to keep him on the realistic, pragmatic plane (not that hard, I suspect, despite the public rhetoric), to feed us info on his psychological state, whether he was making backup plans in case his deterrent failed, etc. That was an enormously powerful tool for keeping this thing under control.

If you just conceptualize Saddam as a gangster -- a clever, ruthless, hedonistic thug -- then he really doesn't seem quite so scary, even with WMD. If you deal with him like that, and not like the reincarnation of Saladin or Nebuchnezzar, he's probably going to react on the same level. I recall being relieved when I realized it was Saddam who made the anthrax, not al-Qaeda, because I knew that meant that we were dealing with an opponent susceptible to rational calculation and normal human considerations of self-interest.

At one level, this war was a far more dangerous operation than most people understand -- fully comparable to the Cuban Missile crisis, at the very least. OTOH, as in the Cuban Missile Crisis, the most likely outcome was always that reason and self-interest would prevail.

Now, what about my idea that Bush would stall to give us a chance to build up biodefenses, so we could have gone in shielded against any doomsday retaliation? Well, there could be several reasons why Bush eschewed a further delay, but my own post mortem analysis is that any improvements we could make to our civil defenses in the next year or two would still leave the whole apparatus hopelessly leaky. If we waited a year, or two years, maybe Saddam couldn't take out New York or Washington, but he could still kill a million people in Manchester or Melbourne, and that's still not within the realm of "acceptable" losses. That's where my argument got real handy-wavy, and that's where it failed. If Saddam attacked us and a non-leaky defense against his WMD takes ten years to put in place, then what are our options: let 9/11 go unpunished, or risk a miltary showdown, offering Saddam only his own skin to play for? Well, I guess we know now what option Bush decided to go for.

385 posted on 04/29/2003 11:41:03 PM PDT by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: Badabing Badaboom; pokerbuddy0
Been checking "O Liberal" in Belem. Still no report (using terms "antraz" and "ibrahim") about whatever killed the guy.
389 posted on 07/01/2003 7:40:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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