Santorum Crisis Exposes Republican Weakness

The Pro-Family Law Center ^ | 29-Apr-2003 | Scott Lively

[EternalVigilance]

that is what your "majority makes right" stance implies, which is why i wonder if that is really what you mean.

With basic reading comprehension skills, you could discern that I said exactly the opposite of what you claim.

[EternalVigilance]

is sodomy "right" in illinois, but "wrong" is texas?

No. It's wrong everywhere.

[jethropalerobber]

No. It's wrong everywhere.

that funny, the majority of US citizens in illinois (as represented by their freely elected officials) seem to disagree with you on that.

and since you have granted them the authority to decide right and wrong, i guess you are out of luck.

[EternalVigilance]

and since you have granted them the authority to decide right and wrong, i guess you are out of luck.

I didn't grant them anything. Your claim is specious.

But, in the end, God's laws always supersede man-made laws.

[Khepera]

You enjoy Homosexual sex?

[EternalVigilance]

So, if Illinois passed a law declaring open season on shooting guys who call themselves jethropalerobber, that would make it right...uhuh...

You're as confused as the other guy.

[liberalnot]

your radicalism will never prevail in american politics, as falwell and robertson have demonstrated.

in actuality, you do the republican party more harm than good.

[EternalVigilance]

in actuality, you do the republican party more harm than good.

Those of you that empower the radical homosexuals are self-deceived...you don't represent any but a tiny minority in the GOP.

[tdadams]

You claim, wrongly, that if I get my way, America will somehow turn into a theocracy.

I didn't make that claim. What I'd like to know though, is how you can acknowledge that America is not a theocracy, then propose to make law based on nothing more than your religious beliefs.

[tdadams]

Name me one [empire] that was destroyed that hadn't fallen into some kind of gross sin...idolatry, homosexuality, bestiality, total disregard for human life....

Well, without an encyclopedic knowledge of all of world history the likes of which no one here could claim to possess, it seems to me that your original assertion - that all of the world's great empires have been destroyed as a result of tolerating homosexuality - has been modified in this latest incarnation.

Not only was the original assertion ridiculous, it would be impossible to prove or disprove. Historians can't agree on the causes of war and downfall during this century, let alone throughout history.

Thinking logically though, it seems highly unlikely that the common thread running through the downfall of every great empire was their tolerance of homosexuality. Somehow, I just envision there were greater causes and concerns involved, such as overreaching military ambition, famine, economics, and war.

[EternalVigilance]

...then propose to make law based on nothing more than your religious beliefs.

You obviously don't listen very well. It would foul up your little fantasy-world concerning homosexuality if you were forced to deal with the many ways that the practice brings harm to our country, and great burdens on the taxpayer.

[jethropalerobber]

I didn't grant them anything. Your claim is specious. But, in the end, God's laws always supersede man-made laws.

first you said the majority of US citizens decide what's right and wrong, now you are saying it's God's laws.

which is it?

[tdadams]

It would foul up your little fantasy-world concerning homosexuality if you were forced to deal with the many ways that the practice brings harm to our country, and great burdens on the taxpayer.

So your opposition to consensual homosexual relationships is not based on your religious beliefs? Then why did you spend so many posts justifying your position based on scripture?

If it's based on the supposed harm done to the country, can we also expect to see you campaigning against mountain climbing, driving, skateboarding, smoking or drinking? To one degree or another, when someone gets injured doing one of these things, it often harms society and cost taxpayers lots of money.

[jethropalerobber]

So, if Illinois passed a law declaring open season on shooting guys who call themselves jethropalerobber, that would make it right...uhuh...

i'm not the one who claimed the majority of "sovereign US citizens" are the ones who decide what is right and wrong.

[EternalVigilance]

first you said the majority of US citizens decide what's right and wrong, now you are saying it's God's laws. which is it?

You're kinda slow, aren't you...

[EternalVigilance]

For someone who claims to not care about the outcome of this debate, you certainly seem heavily invested.

[tdadams]

With that response, and the one immediately preceeding, it's all too obvious you've hit a rhetorical brick wall.

[Asclepius]

You enjoy Homosexual sex?

I've never tried it. But it doesn't bother me in the least that people enjoy sexual activities that I've never tried nor would ever try.

Why does it bother you so much? Have you nothing better to do with your time than fret about other people enjoying themselves etc.?

[Asclepius]

Nope, just a healthy disgust for homosexual behavior and the agressive homosexual agenda.

Yuh-huh. You guys are just so happy, so terribly joyful; you set such a great example. I mean, who wouldn't want to live their lives like you?

[Jhoffa_]

Yuh-huh. You guys are just so happy, so terribly joyful; you set such a great example. I mean, who wouldn't want to live their lives like you?

Look who's talking...