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Osprey beaned by baseball player dies (charges filed)
Florida Today ^ | April 28, 2003

Posted on 04/28/2003 4:58:59 PM PDT by hotpotato

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:04:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A male osprey named Ozzy is shown last week with an injured right eye. It was at the Animal Clinic of Edgewater after being struck by a baseball thrown by a Daytona Cubs pitcher. AP image.

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. - An osprey that was intentionally hit with a baseball thrown by a Daytona Cubs pitcher last week has died from its injuries, according to Florida Today's news partner, WKMG Local 6 News.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: basball; osprey
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Ospreys are one of the few bird species that mate for life. The female depends upon the male to raise the chicks. I suppose the chicks won't make it.
1 posted on 04/28/2003 4:58:59 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
Ryu's an idiot, but please, no dog-eating jokes.
2 posted on 04/28/2003 5:01:04 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Mr. Avuncular)
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To: hotpotato
Where are one of those drunken, deranged player attacking fans when you really need one?
3 posted on 04/28/2003 5:02:43 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: hotpotato
Witnesses told investigators that Ryu threw several balls at the osprey.... Other players on the field rushed to assist the injured osprey.

So why didn't these other players stop Ryu when he started throwing balls at the bird? Obviously some of the other players saw him doing this from the start.

4 posted on 04/28/2003 5:06:02 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: SpyGuy
He was told more than once to quit aiming for the bird, according to another article.
5 posted on 04/28/2003 5:09:46 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hotpotato
"Hat's off" to the Daytona Cubs, who took action against this cretin only after the story became public.
6 posted on 04/28/2003 5:10:37 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: SpyGuy
"So why didn't these other players stop Ryu when he started throwing balls at the bird? Obviously some of the other players saw him doing this from the start."

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Most likely they had seen him pitch and were astounded when he actually hit something that small.

7 posted on 04/28/2003 5:10:59 PM PDT by konaice
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To: hotpotato
Deport the moron.

LQ
8 posted on 04/28/2003 5:11:57 PM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: My2Cents
Uhm, it became public as soon as it happened. Stick to the facts.
9 posted on 04/28/2003 5:13:54 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: SpyGuy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/899142/posts

10 posted on 04/28/2003 5:18:08 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
The day after the incident became public, Ryu was removed from the Daytona Cubs' team bus and demoted.

The facts: They waited to act, and then acted in haste, yanking him from the team bus. Why didn't they demote him immediately, or suspend him? Guess they wanted to see whether there would be any outrage first. Truly a principled bunch.

11 posted on 04/28/2003 5:18:50 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: hotpotato
The osprey's dead -
And even worse
I'm going to put
My thoughts in verse !

The poor hawk did not
Hear the call:
When Ryu said:
"Here : Catch this ball ! "

The missile flew
Swift through the air
And beaned the osprey
In its lair.

Oh ! What a shame
To waste such skill !
Too bad he didn't
Aim at Hill !!


12 posted on 04/28/2003 5:20:51 PM PDT by genefromjersey (Gettin' too old to "play nice" !)
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To: hotpotato
This kid got a huge signing bonus (million-six, IIRC) from the Chicago Cubs, and shows his gratitude by killing the farm team's mascot in front of an audience.

Imagine the discipline problem he's going to be later on, if he's this cocky now. They might be wise to consider the bonus as "money down the drain" and just ship his ass back to Korea.
13 posted on 04/28/2003 5:21:56 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: LizardQueen
Deport the moron.

Boy talk about a quandrary for the Left. Here we are practically forced by law to be sensitive about other people's cultures, yet we must make sure that the punishment for killing a bird is much greater than murdering an unborn child. Instead of "deporting the moron", or demoting him to the "Lugnuts" team, he should undergo Ritalin medications while undergoing psychological behavioral modifications under the direction of a Save the Whales transgendered Yoga master - then he will learn that animals are not under man's dominion, but instead will believe like most Americans that animals are objects of veneration and worship.

14 posted on 04/28/2003 5:28:30 PM PDT by Dr Warmoose (Just don't leave any brass with your fingerprints on it behind, OK?)
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To: Dr Warmoose
Somewhere you missed the studies that indicate abuse of humans often begins with abuse of animals.

15 posted on 04/28/2003 5:38:46 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
Somewhere you missed the studies that indicate abuse of humans often begins with abuse of animals.

Sllllipppery Sloooope!

Shouldn't the only thing being investigates is whether he had a hunting license?

Last I checked, we eat millions and millions of birds.
If it needs protecting, put it in a zoo.

16 posted on 04/28/2003 5:44:16 PM PDT by nanomid
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To: nanomid
Red herring. We pass laws to protect animals from abuse for an ordered society. The guy wasn't hunting. With his fast ball, he was aiming to take the bird out.

btw, ospreys are one of the few spieces that find a mate and mate for life. The female depends on the male for raising the chicks. They take turns chasing away predators and protecting while the others hunt.

If you can't figure out protection of animals from animals with much bigger brains with the capacity to wipe species off the face of the planet, then I surely can't help you. In the end, it isn't the non-humans we are trying to protect. We are trying to save our own butts. Maybe you'll understand that. Then again, maybe not.
17 posted on 04/28/2003 5:50:31 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: genefromjersey
Good one!
another reason to drop baseball and go to
cricket, they bounce the ball to the batter
like we do to small children.
oops they might hit a worm that way.
18 posted on 04/28/2003 5:52:29 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5 % of the time.)
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To: nanomid
He threw numerous balls at it before he hit.
19 posted on 04/28/2003 5:53:14 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: hotpotato
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission criminally charged former pitcher Jae-kuk Ryu for injuring an osprey

Perhaps he was just hungry. Weren't there any DOGS available???

(oh yeah...well "Kuk Ryu" too!)

20 posted on 04/28/2003 5:54:12 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Normal4me
it
21 posted on 04/28/2003 5:54:24 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Dr Warmoose
"Instead of "deporting the moron", or demoting him to the "Lugnuts" team, he should undergo Ritalin medications while undergoing psychological behavioral modifications under the direction of a Save the Whales transgendered Yoga master - then he will learn that animals are not under man's dominion, but instead will believe like most Americans that animals are objects of veneration and worship."

Oh, I LIKE that idea! Sometimes liberals really can be useful! Make sure the Yoga master is fully immersed in Freudian dogma as well, just to be as "effective" as possible.

He'll snap like an old twig....

22 posted on 04/28/2003 5:54:26 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: hotpotato
If you can't figure out protection of animals from animals with much bigger brains with the capacity to wipe species off the face of the planet, then I surely can't help you.

We are diametrically opposed on this subject, I'm sure.
If the bird needed protection, it needed to be in a protected environment.
This can only mean away from human habitation.
All animals serve human interests, else take a sample of its DNA and bit it goodbye.
Animals should never have rights over any human.

23 posted on 04/28/2003 5:56:23 PM PDT by nanomid
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To: hotpotato

24 posted on 04/28/2003 5:57:09 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: montag813
Does the guy subcontract out? We have this geese problem...
25 posted on 04/28/2003 5:57:43 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: hotpotato
For crying out loud. It was just a stupid bird.
26 posted on 04/28/2003 5:58:41 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Lazamataz
Bird of prey taps ping.
27 posted on 04/28/2003 5:58:57 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: nanomid
Do you aim for squirrels when they run across the road? The BIRD was in a high nest in which the pitcher deliberately threw numerous baseballs at it.
28 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:11 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: hotpotato
Somewhere you missed the studies that indicate abuse of humans often begins with abuse of animals.

So let's go ahead and arrest him for being a murderer now, like in the Minority Report flick.

29 posted on 04/28/2003 6:01:54 PM PDT by razorbak
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To: Normal4me
Do you aim for squirrels when they run across the road?

Don't have to. They usually backtrack, several times.

30 posted on 04/28/2003 6:02:43 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: razorbak
Do we now confess that we were all once BB gun serial sparrow killers?
31 posted on 04/28/2003 6:04:23 PM PDT by razorbak
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Ah, I take it you don't slow down or drop the cell phone from your ear either. Hope ya ain't driving through school zones often! ;-)
32 posted on 04/28/2003 6:05:46 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: nanomid
If the bird needed protection, it needed to be in a protected environment.

The pair and their chicks were in a protected environment. It's called The Law

For those that can't understand that, there is another protected environment and that's called jail

Animals should never have rights over any human.

This is completely ignorant. You don't get it at all.

33 posted on 04/28/2003 6:06:07 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
Of all professional sports athletes, I have always had the impression that baseball players are at the low end of the intelligence curve. Am I right or am I right?
34 posted on 04/28/2003 6:06:11 PM PDT by Chirodoc
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To: Dr Warmoose
Is there a penalty for murdering an unborn, or in the process of being born child?
35 posted on 04/28/2003 6:08:05 PM PDT by realpatriot
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To: Chirodoc
Of all professional sports athletes, I have always had the impression that baseball players are at the low end of the intelligence curve. Am I right or am I right?

Bazeball has been belly, belly good to me.

36 posted on 04/28/2003 6:08:46 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: hotpotato
This guy's a "hunter" like a punkrocker stomping baby chicks is a "hunter".

Knock his head off with a bat and call it even--he demonstrated his brain is actually smaller than the osprey's.

The Dahmers of Summer.

37 posted on 04/28/2003 6:10:20 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: nanomid
All animals serve human interests, else take a sample of its DNA and bit it goodbye.

Which argues my point about the fact that conservation and protection is about saving our own butts. But you don't seem able to figure that out beyond your blanket statement above. I know... it's a little complex but you can try. Afterall, you *do* have the bigger brain between humans and non-humans, right? Right?

38 posted on 04/28/2003 6:10:53 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: Normal4me
Ah, I take it you don't slow down or drop the cell phone from your ear either. Hope ya ain't driving through school zones often! ;-)

Sorry, would rather take out a bushy tailed rodent than spin out my car. The comment about school zones was rather unnecessary.

39 posted on 04/28/2003 6:15:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Chirodoc
Of all professional sports athletes, I have always had the impression that baseball players are at the low end of the intelligence curve.

I don't know. By reading some of the posts in this thread, it would appear that some of their fans might slide in just below that.

40 posted on 04/28/2003 6:15:36 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: gov_bean_ counter
We have this geese problem...

So do we here in S. E. Michigan. The only easy solution I can think of is machete's. Given how they no longer fear people, it is easier than heck to pretend to walk by them and whack their heads off......

Many golf courses around here are overwhelmed by the damn things. Since golf regulations limit the number of clubs in a bag to 14 I think, I would sacrifice my 2 iron for the machete......... LOL!

41 posted on 04/28/2003 6:16:43 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Nothing worse than an angry herd of hungry finches....)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I would sacrifice my 2 iron for the machete

Sharpen the flange on the 2 iron and you have a dual use club. May help cutting through the tall rough as well.

42 posted on 04/28/2003 6:19:48 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: razorbak
Do we now confess that we were all once BB gun serial sparrow killers?

Yea, and I admit that tonight I was waiting with my Beeman Kodiak for a pesky squirrel and rabbit. Set out live traps for both, sprinkled peanuts around the squirrel trap only to find out later the damn squirrel ate all the peanuts and never set foot in the trap. Unfortunately, I have regulations in my condo association which "legally" prohibits me from discharging any B-B guns or pellet rifles at all.

That being said, as I sat in my dining room with the doorwall to my deck open and sighting onto the respective baits, the critters never came into view.....

43 posted on 04/28/2003 6:22:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Nothing worse than an angry herd of hungry finches....)
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To: nanomid
Why make this into a "rights" thing? To me it's an employee discipline thing.

The birds had names. The fans loved them. The pitcher had been told to stop aiming for the birds' nest. He thought it would be fun to aim anyway for a bird whose nesting instincts forbid it from being anything other than stationary. He knocked the bird out of its nest in full view of outraged teammates and any fan who had come early enough to see the warmup.

Imagine that I become employed by an establishment that has adopted a stray cat out back as a "pet", and I decide to kick the thing every time I see it. My fellow employees, who have all been there longer than me, tell me to knock it off. Maybe a customer is outraged by my behavior and tells me to knock it off. Maybe the assistant manager tells me to knock it off. Maybe the big boss tells me to quit kicking the cat too. Maybe not. But on the day I decide to assert my permanent supremacy over the cat in unmistakeable terms, by blinding it and leaving it to suffer and die, the big boss is perfectly justified in deciding that *I* am the problem in the now-poisoned work atmosphere and that *I* must go.

Then, imagine my arrogance when I tell the boss that "animals should never have rights over any human".

That bird did not have ANY "rights" over the pitcher. But if you believe that the pitcher had the "right" to act like a vicious asshole, you must also believe that every other human present in the stadium, team member or fan, had a "right" to their mascot.

Or at least a right to visit their outrage on his sorry, ungrateful, overpaid head.

44 posted on 04/28/2003 6:23:15 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: PhilDragoo
This guy's a "hunter" like a punkrocker stomping baby chicks is a "hunter".

A very appropriate analogy.

45 posted on 04/28/2003 6:23:22 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
Some people are just born jerks.
46 posted on 04/28/2003 6:23:30 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: gov_bean_ counter
My apologies regarding the school zone statement. There is NO reason for this kind of sh!t and for people to say it was just a "stupid bird" is just ignorant as far as I am concerned. If the bird flew into the path of a pitch then it would be an accident, but this is clearly a case of intentional animal abuse.
47 posted on 04/28/2003 6:23:36 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Chirodoc
No. That would be basketball players. Or Football. Or Hockey. Or Soccer. Take yer pick.
48 posted on 04/28/2003 6:23:37 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Dr Warmoose
"Boy talk about a quandrary for the Left...We must make sure that the punishment for killing a bird is much greater than murdering an unborn child."

Yes -- quite the conundrum for the hypocrites of the Left.

There is certain to be a world-wide protest organized to first demand castration, and then drawing and quartering the minor league pitcher.

49 posted on 04/28/2003 6:28:50 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: hellinahandcart
Now *that* was a great response! :-)
50 posted on 04/28/2003 6:29:21 PM PDT by hotpotato
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