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Hillary & Schumer in Open Civil War
NewsMax.com ^
| 4/29/03
| Carl Limbacher
Posted on 04/29/2003 3:36:46 AM PDT by kattracks
The long rumored cold war between Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and her Democrat New York colleague Chuck Schumer has erupted into a fall blown civil war, NewsMax has learned. The feud between the pair has been long standing, though quietly talked about among New York political and media insiders.
But now, the civil war between the Hillary and Schumer camps has broken out into a full blown civil war.
The public war between the two Senators was sparked this past week when Steven Brill, author of the 9/11 tome After, claimed that Hillary tried to elbow Schumer out of the limelight for his efforts to help New York families in the aftermath of 9/11.
The Brill allegations may have just been the final explosion of a volcano that had waited too long to blow.
A source close to the Schumer camp tells NewsMax, Chuck knows he has a debt to the Clintons. They did everything, I mean everything the could, to help him get elected when he took on DAmato [in 1998].
But such sentiments may be short lived.
Schumers staff are ugly about Hillary, they have nothing nice to say about her, the source said. The insider said Schumers staff regularly refers to Hillary in the most unflattering of terms, and believe she has wrongly taken credit for constituent work Schumer accomplished and she has consistently sought to upstage him at public events.
Hillary and her staff share similar animus toward Schumer. Brill revealed to NewsMax that in off the record conversations he had with Hillary and her key aides, they openly denigrated Schumer.
The source close to Schumers camp said the Senator expected Hillary to be a star after winning election in 2000, but he also expected, as the senior senator, Hillary would also show some deference to him.
Schumer has been wounded on several occasions because, despite his status as New York's senior senator, Hillarys presence has nudged him out of the spotlight. For example, when President Bush traveled to New York on Air Force One after 9/11, Hillary, not Schumer, was given the prized seat next to the president.
And then, theres money fights.
"The disclosure that Sen. Chuck Schumer has a phenomenal $15 million cash on hand for his 2004 re-election bid in New York further roiled his stormy relationship with the state's junior senator," columnist Robert Novak recently reported.
Democratic Party insiders tell the veteran Washington commentator that Schumer committed the cardinal sin of hitting up donors that Clinton considered her own.
The deteriorating relationship between Clinton and Schumer is "the talk of Capitol Hill," Novak said.
Extra gasoline for this particular political bonfire came from NewsMax.com's report last week that Hillary tried to paint Schumer as a do-nothing when it came to taking care of 9/11 families.
Then she offered bogus evidence to author Steven Brill suggesting that she deserved all the credit.
Reports of Brill's bombshell, first dropped a week ago Sunday on Steve Malzberg's WABC New York radio show, has so far been confined to the internet and talk radio.
That is, until last Thursday, when Fox News Channel dynamo Bill O'Reilly blew the lid off the Brill's story on his top rated cable news show "The O'Reilly Factor."
This Sunday Malzberg told his audience that the mainstream media has pulled out all the stops to keep the public from finding out about the Brill-Hill brouhaha.
"We faxed and emailed transcripts [of Brill charges] to the New York Post, to the New York Times, to the Daily News - nobody wanted to touch this story," Malzberg said.
Instead of reporting the 9/11 scoop on Hillary, the Post included Sen. Clinton this Sunday in its list of the "Gals Who Make Gotham Grand."
"Clinton is considered by friend and foe alike as a president-in-waiting. [Or at least a president-wannabe]," the paper gushed. "Supersmart, she's courting Good Ol' Boy Republicans who can deliver the bacon for New York."
In his own report Novak adds, "The failure of any Democratic presidential hopeful to break away from the pack has increased 2004 Hillary-for-president talk in Democratic circles."
But Hillarys feud with Schumer, a hardball political player in his own right, could undermine her presidential ambitions.
TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Watch your back, Chuckie.
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posted on
04/29/2003 3:36:46 AM PDT
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
It doesn't help that she tried to kill him while he was flying recently.
2
posted on
04/29/2003 3:42:22 AM PDT
by
Junior
(Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
To: kattracks
New Yorks elected officals acting like spoiled little children.
Great, just fu**ing great.
3
posted on
04/29/2003 3:44:07 AM PDT
by
chiefqc
To: kattracks
"Clinton is considered by friend and foe alike as a president-in-waiting. [Or at least a president-wannabe]," the paper gushed. "Supersmart, she's courting Good Ol' Boy Republicans who can deliver the bacon for New York."
Any Republican that supports the Hildebeast needs to be tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.
4
posted on
04/29/2003 3:45:21 AM PDT
by
Ronin
To: kattracks
I was under the impression that the NY Post was a more or less conservative paper. Is this untrue? Any ideas why they would be reluctant to carry this story?
To: kattracks
I never thought I'd have anything in common with Chuckie Schumer. Turns out I do: We both hate Hillary Clinton.
I never thought I'd have anything in common with Hillary Clinton. Turns out I do: We both hate Chuckie Schumer.
6
posted on
04/29/2003 3:49:57 AM PDT
by
KevinB
To: kattracks
You are not kidding:
POSTED: 11:47 a.m. EDT April 23, 2003
Door Blows Open In Flight On Plane Carrying N.Y. Senator
BUFFALO, N.Y. -- A passenger door blew open on a small charter airplane carrying Sen. Charles Schumer, making for an unnerving flight but causing no injuries.
"There wasn't any feeling that you were going to be sucked out of the plane, but suddenly, we had snow blowing into the airplane," the Democrat said in Buffalo Tuesday, where he was promoting a plan to move all vehicle inspections to the Canadian side of the international Peace Bridge.
Schumer had been flying from New York City to Binghamton for a speech when the mishap occurred Tuesday. The door remained open for about 15 minutes, he said, until the pilot landed the plane in Binghamton shortly after 8 a.m.
Schumer said the pilot immediately assured passengers the plane was built to handle such an emergency. The senator said he was sitting about a foot away with his back to the door, and that one of his aides, Andy Katzman, was sitting next to the door.
Schumer's trip from Binghamton to Buffalo was delayed about 45 minutes while the plane was repaired and inspected.
To: Junior
It doesn't help that she tried to kill him while he was flying recently. What's this? I missed it.
To: Ronin
This bi*** is the most mean spirited person I have ever seen. If she ever becomes Pres , I might move from the USA!!!
9
posted on
04/29/2003 3:52:36 AM PDT
by
estrogen
To: Ronin
She will make sure the Dems nominate a candidate so ridiculous he'll be run out of town next November, clearing the road for her candidacy in 2008.
10
posted on
04/29/2003 3:53:23 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: kattracks
Didn't the door on his plane suddenly blow open last week?
Hmm, I wonder!
To: David Isaac
It is, and I have no idea why they wouldn't print this story.
To: kattracks
They did everything, I mean everything the could, to help him get elected when he took on DAmato [in 1998]. Hmmmm. Makes you wonder what this little slip of the tongue is referring to.
13
posted on
04/29/2003 3:56:23 AM PDT
by
libertylover
(Grateful to all who have served.)
To: kattracks
Schumers staff are ugly about Hillary"And Hillary? She's just flat-out ugly!
To: Ronin
I agree. If I find out who they are, I will personally call and email them about it. They should be shunned and voted out of office for courting the *itch. Nothing good ever comes from a Clinton.
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posted on
04/29/2003 3:57:51 AM PDT
by
kcvl
To: kattracks
Too bad Newsmax is only slightly better than Debka on the credibility scale. I do hope it is true about this cat fight.
To: estrogen
Save me a place, because I might want to go too.
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posted on
04/29/2003 3:58:56 AM PDT
by
kcvl
To: The Other Harry
See #7. Pretty scarey.
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posted on
04/29/2003 3:59:34 AM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Pray for our Troops)
To: need_a_screen_name
What rock have you been hiding under? This fued has been widely reported on by many media outlets over the past 2 years. Brill's book is the basis of this report, not Newsmax.
To: TennTuxedo
What rock have you been hiding under? This fued has been widely reported on by many media outlets over the past 2 years. Brill's book is the basis of this report, not Newsmax. I was just making a simple statement about Newsmax, not the fued.
To: kattracks
Hitlery Rotten is going to Fosterize ol' Chuckie if he doesn't stop getting in her way.
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posted on
04/29/2003 4:08:09 AM PDT
by
jimbo123
To: Bahbah
See #7. Pretty scarey. NBD. You fly as often as these people do, things like this happen.
If Hill had tried to kill him, he'd be dead.
To: Junior
Plane "accidents" are a trademark of the klinks. Check out the body-count list...
To: kattracks
A gunfight between two gungrabbers? Ya GOTTA LOVE IT!!
May they kill each other off -- metaphorically speaking, of course.
To: kattracks
Chuckie Pooh
had better have eyes in the back of his head and everywhere else. And someone had better test his food.
her unroyal lowness,
her hideous heinous--
Bwitch Shrillery
would not think a nanosecond
about dumping ocean tanker loads
of pooh all over Chuckie any and
every way she could.
She'd sacrifice all the neighbor's
cats and dogs; her first born and
at least her right pseudo breast
in an evil midnight ritual to get
the White House.
Chuckie Pooh would be the least of
a used gnat to her--merely to be
squashed and swiped aside.
And likely, also, so would be any
significant media personnel who aid
any opposition and cast her in any
kind of accurate black light.
25
posted on
04/29/2003 4:17:24 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: Ronin
After having first been made to
sleep with her hideous heinous.
The protoplasm left can be tarred,
feathered and ran out of town.
26
posted on
04/29/2003 4:18:31 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: FranklinsTower
Is there a betting pool on when
this guy will be 'successfully' Fostered?
27
posted on
04/29/2003 4:20:10 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: kattracks
but he also expected, as the senior senator, Hillary would also show some deference to him.
That is enough to beat him in the election...judgement that bad belongs in retirement
28
posted on
04/29/2003 4:21:14 AM PDT
by
The Wizard
(Saddamocrats are enemies of America)
To: kattracks
Beautiful street theatre, like the opening scene of the The Wild Bunch, with the kids watching the fire ants battle the scorpions.
29
posted on
04/29/2003 4:22:07 AM PDT
by
friendly
To: kattracks
Sorry Chuckie. You are just another "f*ckin' Joo bastard" to Hillary. You sold cheap when you let her buy you for a Senate seat.
To: Ronin
and shot, don't forget shot...tarred, feathered and shot.....and then thrown out of the party.....anyone in the GOP who lifts a finger for crusty should be thrown out
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posted on
04/29/2003 4:24:43 AM PDT
by
The Wizard
(Saddamocrats are enemies of America)
To: estrogen
I expect that the Anti-Christ will turn out to be the only one worse--andmaybe his false prophet.
If one had to imagine a liquid as bad as her unroyal lowness,
One might have to combine
bile,
lava,
acid,
cesspool settlings,
rotten eggs,
arsnic without the old lace,
black mamba venom,
. . .
32
posted on
04/29/2003 4:25:05 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: governsleastgovernsbest
And the only language she thinks in is ugly.
33
posted on
04/29/2003 4:26:31 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: estrogen
while the democrats might be foolish enough to let her run, she will never be elected.
The DOD will never allow her to be CIC, NEVER., elected or not.....
34
posted on
04/29/2003 4:27:09 AM PDT
by
The Wizard
(Saddamocrats are enemies of America)
To: kcvl
Nothing good ever gets close to
Dilldo and her hideous heinous.
35
posted on
04/29/2003 4:27:19 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: need_a_screen_name
NewsMax is not that bad IMHO.
And even Debka is very underrated.
36
posted on
04/29/2003 4:28:43 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: The Wizard
but he also expected, as the senior senator, Hillary would also show some deference to him.
Isn't Indeference, deference? If I were Chuck I'd resign and move to somewhere safe.
37
posted on
04/29/2003 4:29:08 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Saddam is seeking the democrat nomination)
To: Dick Bachert
as Sherlock Holms said to Moriarity...."If I could be sure of the former, I would welcome the latter"=If they both die, it's worth it
38
posted on
04/29/2003 4:29:31 AM PDT
by
The Wizard
(Saddamocrats are enemies of America)
To: jimbo123
I figure
Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette's
edict has already gone out.
And then she'll show up at his wake
in a black pants suit dripping
the best of Hollyweed choreographed sobs.
39
posted on
04/29/2003 4:30:12 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: The Other Harry
You're probably right.
But maybe her goons are
not as hop-to, efficient
or loyal as heretofore.
40
posted on
04/29/2003 4:31:20 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: Quix
Who? Brill or UpChuckie?
To: Dick Bachert
Actually,
if her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette
got close enough to spit as she ranted,
her spittle would be acid to her opponent.
While she smiled sweetly--or tried to--of course.
42
posted on
04/29/2003 4:32:49 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: kattracks
Sounds like a case of Arkancide in the making...
43
posted on
04/29/2003 4:33:42 AM PDT
by
TonyRo76
To: The Wizard
Great point!
44
posted on
04/29/2003 4:34:02 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: friendly
For sure.
45
posted on
04/29/2003 4:35:02 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: The Wizard
In spite of what it would mean . . .
if it comes to that--I hope that's true.
46
posted on
04/29/2003 4:36:24 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: FranklinsTower
I was thinking of
UpChuckie Pooh
but good point--Brill could be living on borrowed time already.
47
posted on
04/29/2003 4:38:13 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: KevinB
LOL
48
posted on
04/29/2003 4:59:28 AM PDT
by
gakrak
To: The Other Harry
Right on, remember her good friend foster!
49
posted on
04/29/2003 5:02:33 AM PDT
by
gakrak
To: kattracks
In his own report Novak adds, "The failure of any Democratic presidential hopeful to break away from the pack has increased 2004 Hillary-for-president talk in Democratic circles."Oh, sh**. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Wait. Watch. Worry.
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