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Human rights law passed- Gays, lesbians get protection
Cincinnati Post ^ | April 30, 2003 | Mike Rutledge

Posted on 04/30/2003 6:50:25 AM PDT by new cruelty

Covington city commissioners Tuesday unanimously supported a new human rights ordinance which extends protections to gays and lesbians. "I guess the basic question that needs to be asked is should we allow discrimination in this community?" said Commissioner Jerry Bamberger. "The answer is no."

The new law, which Mayor Butch Callery hopes will be a model for cities across the country, will take effect in about a week.

"Some day, I think the entire nation will one day wake up and realize that guess what: Equal rights is something that should have been done 100 years ago," said Commissioner Alex Edmondson.

The law's implementation will be carefully watched by the Sharonville-based Citizens for Community Values which campaigned hard against it.

CCV said it intends to help find lawyers to represent landlords or businesses which feel their rights are infringed, the group's vice president, David Miller, said after the vote. It also is forming a political action committee, which can be used to fund tri-state candidates who oppose such measures.

Covington's new law bans discrimination based on age, sexual orientation, marital status and parental status. It applies to employment, housing and public accommodations, such as hotels and restaurants.

It expands a city law which prohibited housing discrimination because of disability, gender, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, family status and place of birth.

"I'm just completely elated and pleased and so happy with the leadership of Covington," said Dean Forster of the Northern Kentucky Fairness Alliance. "The people of Covington clearly supported this ordinance, clearly made a stand that discrimination is wrong and all people should be accepted equally."

Frank Warnock, the lawyer Covington hired to refine the ordinance, explained how the law will work:

• Upon receiving a discrimination complaint, the city manager would have discretion to try to resolve the conflict before launching a city investigation into the allegation.

• If reconciliation is not possible, the manager or a designee would investigate.

• After the investigation, the manager could choose to dismiss the complaint or seek an amicable resolution. "I think that's probably one of the most important parts of this ordinance, is the idea that you're trying to educate, you are trying to correct a wrong, and one of the best ways to do that is reconciliation."

• Failing that, a hearing officer appointed by the city manager would reach findings of fact and conclusions of law, which would become an order of the human rights commission.

• Fines could range from $100-$250, and a business which willfully violated the law three or more times could lose its business license.

CCV spent $10,000 this month mailing 20,000 anti-gay booklets to Covington households and sent letters to all Catholic churches in Northern Kentucky because all five city officials who voted are Catholics.

Bamberger said the mailings did not sway him: "I didn't hear too many complaints from residents after they sent out their messages. I believe the city of Covington and the city officials here have a responsibility to deal with our own issues, and deal with our citizens."

After the vote, commissioners sat quietly during almost 30 seconds of a standing ovation.

Bamberger said his goal was that everybody be treated equally. "For the many people who opposed the ordinance -- and I received a lot of input from those people, and I appreciate that input -- I wish that they would take the time now. I wish they would review that ordinance, and look at it, and see if they still have any concerns about it."

"No one would choose to be discriminated against, no one would choose to be hated, no one would choose to be treated differently," Edmondson said. "And someday, I believe the city of Covington will have a small piece in that understanding, of creating tolerance, bridging the gap, and more importantly, allowing people to know that yes, a small city like Covington can show the entire region: Yes, we can."


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To: Laurie S
No, they didn't. And they still don't. Gays and lesbians are second class citizens in this country, unfortunately. They aren't allowed to marry. They can get fired from their jobs if their boss find out their gay. They can get evicted from their apartment for the same reason. It's all about the boss's or landlord's religious beliefs. However, you don't see heterosexuals getting fired for being 'outed' as straight.

Yes they have always had human rights and still do. They are not second class citizens, that may be their perception based on their actions but that argument doesn't hold water. An employer should be able to employ whomever he wants if it's a private business, his decisions may affect his business bottom line but that is his business, same goes for the landlord. As far as the marriage question goes, Merriam-Webster defines it as:

1 a : the state of being married b : the mutual relation of husband and wife : WEDLOCK c : the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family

21 posted on 04/30/2003 8:18:14 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: new cruelty
Gays are now listed on the Endangered Species List.
22 posted on 04/30/2003 8:21:09 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th% (If they're both gay and lesbian, are they straight??)
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To: Laurie S
For your information....housing and jobs are not human rights. If that's the case, I've been deprived of mine.
23 posted on 04/30/2003 8:21:35 AM PDT by jhw61
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To: Laurie S
No, they didn't. And they still don't. Gays and lesbians are second class citizens in this country, unfortunately. They aren't allowed to marry. They can get fired from their jobs if their boss find out their gay.

Are you ill-informed or just pretending to be? Homosexauls are as free to marry as anyone else. They just have to marry a person of the opposite sex, just as everyone else does when they marry. And in most places in the US it is illegal to fire someone because they are homosexual. Damn, in Californina now it is illegal to fire someone or not hire them even if they are a cross dresser or transvestite!

24 posted on 04/30/2003 8:23:35 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Laurie S
They can get fired from their jobs if their boss find out their gay. They can get evicted from their apartment for the same reason. It's all about the boss's or landlord's religious beliefs.

I wish that were true, for that would mean we were living in a free country.

25 posted on 04/30/2003 8:27:09 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: pram
"They just have to marry a person of the opposite sex, just as everyone else does when they marry"

That sure is a bury-your-head-in-the-sand argument. LOL!
That's like saying if there was a law outlawing white people to marry eachother and you saying "it's ok. You can marry just like anyone else. Just marry someone who's black, asian.. anyone other than another white person." How funny! :)
26 posted on 04/30/2003 8:32:08 AM PDT by Laurie S
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To: new cruelty
• Fines could range from $100-$250, and a business which willfully violated the law three or more times could lose its business license.

I can imagine the future - homosexuals purposely acting really weird, they get fired, claim it's discrimination, the poor business owner gets fined, they do it again a couple of times, he either loses his business or has to tolerate unacceptable behavior or attitudes from his employees.

Reminds me of the sodomy case in Texas - the two sodomists on purpose called the police to their house, left the door open, and were on purpose committing sodomy so the police could see. I can see the future and it is not pretty.

Folks, I think it's about time to do some serious activist freeping on the right side of this issue, where ever we live. If we don't stand up, do whatever we can do, pretty soon sodomy is going to be shoved in our faces and we are going to see hell on earth.

And one of the salient features of the homosexual "rights" crap is that the majority of Americans feel that homosexual acts ARE weird, sickening and wrong. But the kids are being indoctrinated in school, so we don't have much time to turn this sick tide around.

27 posted on 04/30/2003 8:33:08 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: new cruelty
"Covington city commissioners Tuesday unanimously supported a new human rights ordinance which extends protections to gays and lesbians. "I guess the basic question that needs to be asked is should we allow discrimination in this community?" said Commissioner Jerry Bamberger. "The answer is no."


How about equal rights for sado-masochists, paedophiles, sheep-lovers, etc? This has reached the point of absurdity. Homosexuality is a perversion - clear and simple, and its time the public demanded pandering politicians stop catering to these freaks.
28 posted on 04/30/2003 8:33:13 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Laurie S
That's like saying if there was a law outlawing white people to marry eachother

Strawman arguments are not allowed here.

29 posted on 04/30/2003 8:37:57 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: Laurie S
"it's ok. You can marry just like anyone else. Just marry someone who's black, asian.. anyone other than another white person." How funny! :)

The argument that people of the same sex who have "sex" with each other are somehow similar to people of the same race is not on rediculous, it is offenses to minority races (minority in this country, that is). Behavior can and often does change. Some behavior is pernicious, some is benign, and some is beneficial. Being born black, or Asian, or white, is completely neutral and no one should be discriminated against solely for belonging to a particular race.

On the other hand, one has to discriminate between different kinds of behaviors, otherwise one is acting on the level of a mental deficient. No one can claim that all behaviors are equal, in any sphere of life. And in the sphere of sexual behavior, that is glaringly true.

30 posted on 04/30/2003 8:38:17 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Next time I better preview - and not post in such a hurry!
31 posted on 04/30/2003 8:39:41 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
FYI
Laurie S
Since Mar 27, 2003

32 posted on 04/30/2003 9:15:31 AM PDT by scripter (Imagine a forum where constructive criticism was the norm.)
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To: scripter
We seem to be getting a lot of liberal trolls here. No matter, they'll be zotted when the 2004 election comes around.
33 posted on 04/30/2003 9:17:39 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: American in Israel
a person could refuse to rent to a homosexual. This was important to mom and pop apartments where they may not have wanted the homosexual lifestyle in their building.
34 posted on 04/30/2003 9:21:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: Kuksool
it seems the trolls are creating id's an "aging" them for 2004. I hope there is a way to verify one user per ID.
35 posted on 04/30/2003 9:26:31 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: new cruelty
It expands a city law which prohibited housing discrimination

If I were a landlord I wouldn't want faggots living in my building. An old girlfriend of mine had a coupla real swishy types living right next to her in an apt complex, and without getting into too much detail, let's just say the noises we heard were disgusting beyond description.

I think that landlords should be able to discrimminate against anyone for any reason.

36 posted on 04/30/2003 9:27:12 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: pram
"The argument that people of the same sex who have "sex" with each other are somehow similar to people of the same race is not on rediculous, it is offenses to minority races (minority in this country, that is). Behavior can and often does change. Some behavior is pernicious, some is benign, and some is beneficial. Being born black, or Asian, or white, is completely neutral and no one should be discriminated against solely for belonging to a particular race. "

Under the constitution all men are created equal. It does not say 'except if you're gay'. Gays should have the right to marry. Who care's if they have sex with eachother? Why do we want to stick our noses in their bedrooms.. especially if we hate their behavior so much? We should be encouraging monogomous relationships, not trying to discriminate who can be monogomous with whom. Marriage (with all of it's government/state supported benefits) is the right of every american.. not just 'some'.
37 posted on 04/30/2003 9:41:12 AM PDT by Laurie S
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To: ladtx
Strawman argument? So, saying gay people aren't discriminated against in marriage laws because they can always marry a het, isn't a strawman argument? LOL!
38 posted on 04/30/2003 9:42:42 AM PDT by Laurie S
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To: new cruelty
Garbage like this is the only reason I support Texas in the case before the Supreme Court.
39 posted on 04/30/2003 9:42:45 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: pram
Behavior can and often does change.

Well, then, what you're saying is that is would be more accurate to equate it to religious discrimination rather than to racial discrimination. OK.

40 posted on 04/30/2003 9:43:49 AM PDT by steve-b
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