"Even more posts on homosexuality...i'm curious as to why?"

Catholic Family Association of America/ Free Republic ^ | 5/1/03 | Dr. Brian Kopp, Vice President, Catholic Family Association of America

[Jhoffa_]

And I guarantee if any of them ever touches one of my boys, there will be no trial, only a burial.

I know the Lord says "vengance is mine" but I can certainly understand this man's anger.

The same book that states very clearly that vengance belongs to the Lord warns explicitly about the wrath of an angry husband. Imagine how much worse an angry father would be?

I hope all this emotion can be harnessed and will manifest itself in the form of letters and votes to put the radical homosexual agenda back in the closet where it belongs.

It's a disgusting movement. It's destructive and it doesn't deserve to be mainstreamed and put on equal ground with legitimate right's such as speech and arms.

It needs to go back in the closet along with a huge list of other destructive "right's" and behaviors.

[breakem]

No. I will not answer you. I didn't say it was normal. You are asking me to support statements I have not made.Why don't you just make up both sides of the conversation and I'll read along, since you're doing that anyway.

[bribriagain]

"No. I will not answer you. I didn't say it was normal. You are asking me to support statements I have not made."

Since you're attacking posters that feel homosexuality is not a normal human behavior, I assumed you felt it was.

So is homosexuality a normal human behavior in your opinion?

[philetus]

Currently, the two productions of their "pride season" are Beautiful Thing and From the Hip. "Didn't they make Beautiful Thing into a movie not too long ago?" you might ask. Why, yes, they did. "So why produce this play right now?" To get a tie-in with the popularity of the movie, but also to capitalize on the ever-growing chicken hawk market, giving aging audiences the chance to see these particular beautiful things right before their very own eyes. The ad shows two hot adolescent Londoners against a brick wall, one holding a soccer ball and hugging the other one from behind with the ingenius tag line "an urban fairytale." At least the poor untalented pretty boys are clothed, probably to avoid an accusation of kiddie porn, which it is anyway. But nobody will notice just because they have their shirts on.

[tessalu]

I certainly do understand why the woman in California shot the man that molested her son. She had to go to prison for it, but she may have saved some other child. The perverts never quit.

[Jorge]

"This chickenhawking is an integral part of the homosexual subculture, and tacitly and explicitly accepted by the entire movement. Thus the call for lowering the age of consent for homosexual sex across the board by the homo movement."

I believe 100% homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible, but the above claims are nonsense.

The gay rights organizations almost across the board oppose and condemn groups like NAMBLA that condone sex with minors and advocate lowering the age of consent.

NAMBLA is prohibited from taking part in so-called "gay pride parades"(which allow almost any kind of gross behavior) and almost nobody in the gay rights movement will have anything to do with such groups.

Though statistics show there are more heterosexual pedophiles, this is because heterosexuals make up most of the population. So I wouldn't be surprised if there was a higher percetage of pedophiles among homosexuals...but the idea that "chickenhawking" is a prominent part of the general homosexual population is a ridiculous claim.

[scripter]

Here's something you may find interesting, and something that may offer hints to a certain someones tactics:

The Homosexual Propaganda and Media Manipulation Game

[Jorge]

And I guarantee if any of them ever touches one of my boys, there will be no trial, only a burial.

You have a much better chance of having a heterosexual pedophile touching one of your daughters, since statistics show there are more of them.

[RAT Patrol]

Me too!

[GrandMoM]

The gay rights organizations almost across the board oppose and condemn groups like NAMBLA that condone sex with minors and advocate lowering the age of consent.....gee, I never heard or saw any proof that the gay rights oppose and condemn NAMBLA. Where did you see/hear this?

....could you post some articles or web-sites for us?

[Polycarp]

...but the idea that "chickenhawking" is a prominent part of the general homosexual population is a ridiculous claim.

Do a little more research. Even mainstream homosexual advocates admit it.

• Gay advocates correctly state that most child molesters are heterosexual males. But this is a misleading statement. In proportion to their numbers (about 1 out of 36 men), homosexual males are more likely to engage in sex with minors: in fact, they appear to be three times more likely than straight men to engage in adult-child sexual relations Freund, K. and R. I. Watson, The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homo sexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443.
• While no more than 2% of male adults are homosexual, some studies indicate that approximately 35% of pedophiles are homosexual. K. Freund et al., Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (Fall 1984): 197.
• Homosexual pedophiles victimize far more children than do heterosexual pedophiles Freund, K. and R. I. Watson, The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 18 (Spring 1992): 3443.
• It is estimated that approximately 80% of pedophilic victims are boys who have been molested by adult males Schmidt, Thomas (1995). Straight and Narrow? Compassion and Clarity in the Homosexuality Debate. Downers Grove, Ill.: Intervarsity Press, p. 114.
• Kurt Freund, et al., "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality," Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy 10 (1984): 197. "The proportional prevalence of offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent." See also, Kurt Freund, et al., "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference," "Approximately one-third of these individuals had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls. This finding is consistent with the proportions reported in two earlier studies," p. 107.

[breakem]

I din not attack the people who responded to me. I attacked the original poster and a follow-up. The people you say I attacked assumed things about my position I did not state or imply. You did the same. You assumed wrong. I addressed the contradiction in Clint N Such's post. I am not here to discuss whether or not homosexuality is normal. If you want to address it and change the thread go ahead. If I read something interesting I may respond. Guess you don't want to address my original point, so C-YA.

[breakem]

That's "did"

[bribriagain]

"I am not here to discuss whether or not homosexuality is normal. If you want to address it and change the thread go ahead. If I read something interesting I may respond. Guess you don't want to address my original point, so C-YA."

"Judge, the witness is unresponsive."

Simple question: do you believe homosexulality to be normal?

[JoshGray]

The New England Journal of Medicine is laughable?

What's laughable are passages like this: "An exhaustive study in The New England Journal of Medicine, medical literature's only study reporting on homosexuals who kept sexual "diaries," indicated the average homosexual ingests the fecal material of 23 different men each year."

102 homosexuals is hardly representative of the "average"; 159 subjects TOTAL is hardly "exhaustive".

[Jorge]

"The gay rights organizations almost across the board oppose and condemn groups like NAMBLA that condone sex with minors and advocate lowering the age of consent....."

gee, I never heard or saw any proof that the gay rights oppose and condemn NAMBLA. Where did you see/hear this? ....could you post some articles or web-sites for us?

Here's one from GLAAD, which is probably one of the best known gay rights organizations in America;

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD)

GLAAD Position Statement Regarding NAMBLA
SAN DIEGO, CA -- January 16, 1994 --

The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation deplores North American Man Boy Love Association's (NAMBLA) goals, which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD.

GLAAD also supports the statements issued by other gay and lesbian organizations supporting the International Lesbian and Gay Association's (ILGA) call for NAMBLA's immediate removal from the international association.

GLAAD concurs with the 1990 ILGA resolution based on the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which states, "Major power imbalances create the potential for child abuse. ILGA condemns the exploitive use of power differences to coerce others into sexual relationships. All children have the right to protection from sexual exploitation and abuse."

Although statistics indicate that the vast majority of sexual abuse against children is perpetrated by heterosexual men, it is imperative that child abuse, in all forms, be condemned by gay men and lesbians.

As a group of people who historically have not had legal rights and protections, gay men and lesbians have always work with, and built coalitions with, others whose rights are at risk. The true gay and lesbian agenda is ultimately about free human rights for all people.

1994 - 2003 Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.

__________________________

[Jhoffa_]

1) It's not my quote.

2) Statistically, you are probably correct.

3) I don't care for pedophiles of any sexual orientation, regardless.

[breakem]

LOL! I made the first point which you still have not addressed. Then you assume I have a position on something. I asked you to state your position. Judge yourself!

[Polycarp]

is hardly representative of the "average";

Prove it. This is the only study that ever addressed it.

This IS representative of the average.

And until you do a study disproving its findings, this study is the final statement on the matter to date.

[FreedomPoster]

I'm good with that. Works for me.