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SARS cases pass 6,000; more than 400 dead
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| 05/02/2003
| Michael Smith
Posted on 05/03/2003 4:01:22 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: harpseal
I was alarmed myself back in the early weeks of the outbreak that the growth rate seemed geometric, but since then the spread seems to have more or less come under control in places outside of China, with the numbers of cases increasing only arithmetically or even declining. Now the China figures are more and more outweighing the figures from other places, and, as long as the disease is out of control there, the worldwide figures will more and more resemble geometric growth.
To: harpseal; Judith Anne; Mother Abigail; CathyRyan; per loin; Dog Gone; Petronski; InShanghai; ...
To: aristeides
In most places outside China the low number of cases would mask any real differences between arithmetic and exponential growth. The big change becomes visible after a period long enough to show the exponential curve. Good isolation procedures do seem to help slow the growth or even eliminate the disease.
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posted on
05/03/2003 6:52:25 AM PDT
by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: aristeides
One other thing is that the Chinese resivoir of infection may well expose the rest of the world to such exponential growth. The just in data from India is such that it is way too early to predict the course of SARS there. Taiwan also has is a place where the jury is still out. Likewise Singapore.
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05/03/2003 6:54:32 AM PDT
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harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: harpseal; All; Judith Anne; Mother Abigail; CathyRyan; per loin; Dog Gone; Petronski; InShanghai; ..
SARS stopped itself, health expert says:
Evidence suggests that severe acute respiratory syndrome is not very infectious outside of a hospital setting. Isolating the patients and requiring hospital staff to wear masks, gloves and other protective gear made the difference, he said.
To: mewzilla
Forget the idea of a vaccine for SARS...it would be a miracle for a coronavirus. It won't happen any time soon though the idea is being tossed out to all of us as a panic queller. Absolute Isolation and barrier containment is the only sane way to go until they develope specific drugs to stop it. There will be entire extended families wiped out or only very young kids left from some families( including mine) if this gets into the mainstream population here.
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posted on
05/03/2003 7:26:49 AM PDT
by
Domestic Church
(AMDG...Anyone have a job for me up at the north pole?)
To: LuisBasco
Initally I was leaning towards it being a manmade bug too but it doen't seem to be and it doesn't look tinkered either:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/viewer.fcgi?val=NC_004718
Scroll and read the words in blue if the rest isn't in your ballpark of vocabulary.When you get down to the mat_peptides look at the words above the np #... evidence=not experimental.
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posted on
05/03/2003 7:35:07 AM PDT
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Domestic Church
(AMDG...Anyone have a job for me up at the north pole? I scrub floors and do windows.)
To: Judith Anne
It doesn't have to be invented to be used as bioterror...just discovered.
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05/03/2003 7:36:20 AM PDT
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Domestic Church
(AMDG...Anyone have a job for me up at the north pole? I scrub floors and do windows.)
To: Domestic Church; tallhappy; All
To: aristeides
The case has also been made that the only reason SARS got a foothold in Canada was due to the fact that adequate quarantine measures were not in place soon enough. I really do not know the answers on SARS and am watching what is happening with interest. There is little I can do to stop this disease or even to prevent myself from catching it. I guess we shall see what happens.
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posted on
05/03/2003 7:44:25 AM PDT
by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: All
Doctors: SARS can live on in patients:
HONG KONG (AP) -- Doctors have found that the SARS virus can remain in recovered patients for at least a month, and have also urged patients to avoid personal contact such as hugging and kissing when they go home.
To: harpseal
There is little I can do to stop this disease or even to prevent myself from catching it. Wash your hands.
To: aristeides
That's incredulous! How are the Chinese going to stop WHO from going to Taiwan?
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05/03/2003 7:47:29 AM PDT
by
Domestic Church
(AMDG...Anyone have a job for me up at the north pole? I scrub floors and do windows.)
To: aristeides
that I already do. I have increased the frequency and quality of hand washing.
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posted on
05/03/2003 7:48:14 AM PDT
by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: aristeides
In your "SARS stopped itself" link, I found this:
Evidence suggests that severe acute respiratory syndrome is not very infectious outside of a hospital setting. Isolating the patients and requiring hospital staff to wear masks, gloves and other protective gear made the difference, he said.
This has to be one the dumber things in print that I've read lately.
To: Judith Anne
Why do you say the statement is dumb? Spread does seem to have been quite limited outside hospitals.
To: Domestic Church
There will be entire extended families wiped out or only very young kids left from some families( including mine) if this gets into the mainstream population here I also think there is a huge psychological impact something like this can have on a society. Apart from the death, fear and uncertainty. People would be left with a sense of hopelessness. Long term thinking and planning would be out the window. In the end, I think society would drift backward.
I have to believe a vaccine is possible. There are so many new ideas regarding vaccines. Live vector, DNA vaccines that are targeted to elicit cellular protection. I have to believe it can and will be done.
Ofcourse, the drug companies would rather see drugs made for treatments. Keeping people just enough alive to continue purchasing the drugs.
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posted on
05/03/2003 7:53:38 AM PDT
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riri
To: aristeides
In other words, I just don't think that SARS has stopped itself...
I wonder how long the health authorities are going to say dumb stuff? They don't think the quarantine of 10,000 worked, they think the virus stopped itself?
Baloney. Thanks for posting this link, we can all use it for an example of the idiocy of some health spokespersons.
To: Allan
ping
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posted on
05/03/2003 7:56:35 AM PDT
by
keri
To: aristeides
Okay, I could be wrong...I'll go back and re-read the article. It's entirely possible I'm dumb...I just think that the quarantine and other drastic measures are what stopped SARS in Canada...and I still think they may continue to have cases...
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