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Log Cabin Republicans... Infiltrators with a mission
World Net Daily ^ | 5/2/03 | WND

Posted on 05/03/2003 7:56:12 PM PDT by Paloma_55

The leader of a Republican homosexual activist group that considers itself a moderate influence in the party is linked to radical "queers" urging the murder of Christian leaders, according to a family advocacy group....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichristian; criminals; deception; dishonest; gayrights; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; infiltrators; liars; liberals; libertarians; logcabinrepublicans
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To: Ferret Fawcet
If our party's goal of "inclusion" means condoning sin, then I want no part of it.
The point is there is a significant difference between condoning "sin" and banning it by law. While any consistent libertarian or conservative would oppose the LCRs if they are agitating for special rights, the views of some that private and personal matters are indeed government's business makes it clear that they have legitimate reasons to organize and lobby.

-Eric

61 posted on 05/05/2003 5:18:07 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Paloma_55
Second, they are DESTRUCTIVE to the party. They oppose basic platform elements.
So did Barry Goldwater when the platform was under control of the Eastern Establishment Republicans. For that matter so did Ronald Reagan, whenever the platforms reverted to them post-Goldwater. They moved for change within the party, and today we call those people RINOs.

As the LCRs seem to generally agree with the party's goals (minimal government intrusion in the economy, strong defense, etc..), I see no reason to write them out of the party over matters that are none of government's business, anyway.

-Eric

62 posted on 05/05/2003 5:23:19 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Paloma_55
You're forgetting the critical role played in the Simon fiasco by so-called "pro-family organizations."

Instead of finding out what the situation actually was, they simply stepped into attack.

63 posted on 05/05/2003 5:25:31 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
You're forgetting the critical role played in the Simon fiasco by so-called "pro-family organizations." Instead of finding out what the situation actually was, they simply stepped into attack.

And of course... That was the plan.

That's like blaming the fire department for rushing to a fire. Be fair! That release came from Simon's office. It took Simon about a week to get the facts out, that he did not author the document. He was wrestling with the PR side of denying it... The media was waiting with bated breath to put out the headline "Simon, the homophobe, denies survey!".

He was put into a lose-lose situation by a LCR posing as a Republican.
64 posted on 05/05/2003 6:34:05 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Paloma_55
That's like blaming the fire department for rushing to a fire.

No, it's like blaming a Marine for opening fire on his buddies without engaging in any of the due diligence expected of someone employing deadly force.

Be fair! That release came from Simon's office. It took Simon about a week to get the facts out, that he did not author the document.

The "pro-family" groups, as they always do in California, used it as an excuse to clobber the Republican candidate and then endorse some third-party goofball with zero chance of winning.

They've done this before, and they've done it with the declared goal of getting pro-abort and pro-gay-marriage Democrats elected. The "pro-family" groups are NOT our friends out here, and until they start ACTING like friends, they should be treated as presumptive enemies.

65 posted on 05/05/2003 8:25:09 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah; Grampa Dave; Chancellor Palpatine
If some of these groups on certain issues did NOT exist, the Dems woul dinvent them so as to smear the GOP with the usual claptrap.
66 posted on 05/05/2003 8:29:57 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: Poohbah
No, it's like blaming a Marine for opening fire on his buddies without engaging in any of the due diligence expected of someone employing deadly force.
Let's get it straight... Its like the infantry launching a strike to coordinates that were given it over the radio... by the authorized director of coordinates... only to find out those coordinates were directed at headquarters.

You seem to believe that the guy who did the dirty deed is innocent, while those who reacted to his action are somehow guilty.

The pro-family members of the Republican Party were upset to see Simon's Campaign Headquarters put out that release. It took a week to find out that Simon had nothing to do with the release. Simon was put in a tight spot. He couldn't immediately come out and deny the survey because the homos in the media were set to pounce on him.
He had to figure out how to address what happened. Either way, he was screwed. He either alienated his conservative base, or he admitted to incompetency in operating a campaign by allowing such idiots into the headquarters.
Face it, the big mistake was taking Riordan's people in... attempting to be big tent... and letting ANY Log Cabin types into his campaign.
You are amazing... blaming conservatives for overreacting to an act of sabotage...and ignoring the act itself.
67 posted on 05/06/2003 5:47:20 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: hank377
"two sentient adults?"

Does that mean you're free to marry your sister?

Slippery slope indeed.

68 posted on 05/06/2003 5:52:59 AM PDT by bribriagain
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To: Paloma_55
Let's get it straight... Its like the infantry launching a strike to coordinates that were given it over the radio... by the authorized director of coordinates... only to find out those coordinates were directed at headquarters.

Wrong. The speed with which the "pro-family" groups moved on this implies that either (a) they really do not engage brain before opening mouth, or (b) they knew this was coming, and did nothing to warn Simon, because said warning would interfere with their agenda.

From my experience with one of these groups, I'm inclined to believe the latter.

The pro-family members of the Republican Party were upset to see Simon's Campaign Headquarters put out that release.

No, they weren't upset.

They were f***ing ecstatic, because it gave them an excuse to engage in vote-splitting rhetoric.

I'm more familiar with those a$$holes than you are--they DELIBERATELY plotted to get a tax-and-spend, pro-gay-marriage, pro-abort extremist elected in place of a fiscal conservative who didn't support state-funded abortion (or, for that matter, any state-funded non-emergency medical care).

And the damndest things always seem to happen when these "pro-family" groups are treated as friends by campaign managers. Internal campaign documents usually have a habit of turning up in Democrat hands, usually right after the "pro-family" group publicly flips to the zero-chance third-party fruitcake.

69 posted on 05/06/2003 5:56:38 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: hank377
Hanks, Sorry, I missed your post earlier.

You seem to think that morality and religion are linked, and since we have a "separation of church and state"... clearly, you are also not a constitutionalist... morality has no place in the Republican Party.
BZZZZT!!

Wrong! Morality is central to our social fabric. Families are based on a set of moral constraints that have held the test of time. Society defines morality, not me, not you.

You choose to defy social order and engage in behavior that is immoral.

Fine!
But don't expect me or the Republican Party to accept your behavior.
You say we are all guaranteed equal protection and somehow think that means you should be able to butt-bang someone without any repercussions?? Do we have equal protection for drunks? How about for drug users? How about for someone who openly admits that they get off on nude little kids...don't touch them..just get off seeing them?? Where is the line in your world? WHO ARE YOU to define morality as you see fit and tell society to go to hell??
The Republican Party owes you NOTHING and I am doing everything I can to make sure that you guys get exactly that!
If you want to butt-bang in private, fine... nothing I can do about it... but don't hold your breath thinking that the world will accept you as normal when you have a mental defect.
70 posted on 05/06/2003 5:59:40 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Poohbah
Sorry. I was there. I am engaged with the Republican Party central committee in a California County. When I saw the article come out, my first reaction was to state to the rest of our committee that Simon had better get a reaction out very quickly to refute that statement, or I was going to withdraw my support for him and work on other candidate's campaigns. Most of the activists in our County agreed with me.

For days, we waited for Simon to make a statement. His campaign took close to a week to refute the article. That week took a lot of wind out of his sails. We were very glad when the story finally came out because we WANTED to believe the guy, but we could not believe how long it took to do so.

Later, as the truth came out, it became apparent that Simon was incompetent to manage a campaign, naive for believing that Riordan's people would actually help him succeed, and a victim of sabotage.

But to blame him... or the conservatives... while letting the actual evil-doer walk... that is ludicrous!

The LCR has only one objective, to undermine the Republican Party and normalize homosexual activity. Face it, they realize that as long as 16 year olds think homosexuality is wrong... they have a LOT more work to bring kids into their fold. Once they get it normalized, they can solicit the kids with much more ease...
71 posted on 05/06/2003 6:11:33 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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