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The War's Over, But the Fighting's Getting Worse (W. Post Mentions FR and Garofalo Awards Again)
The Washington Post ^ | Sunday, May 4, 2003 | Todd Gitlin

Posted on 05/04/2003 9:55:43 PM PDT by kristinn

The combat in Iraq may be over, but political combat at home threatens to swell. Bitterness is likely to thrive for the duration of the Bush administration, not only because of domestic policy differences between the right and the left, but because of continuing anger on both sides stemming from their fight over the Iraq war.

The warriors who supported Bush's Iraq policy, mostly on the right, are still facing off against the antiwarriors, mostly on the left. At first glance, this doesn't look like much of a fight. The antiwarriors mustered large demonstrations but were outmuscled by a Republican-dominated government and overwhelmed by an eventual popular majority.

But this isn't the impression left by right-wing talk shows, Web sites and commentators. They portray the antiwar left as dangerous, feral and shockingly, awesomely effective. Accordingly, ultra-conservative rhetoric, already elevated before the war began, remains at high pitch -- a flaming red alert. A few examples:

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• FreeRepublic.com, a right-wing super-site based in Fresno, Calif., rails against "terrorist supporting leftists," and gives "Garofalo Awards" (after antiwar comedian/actress Janeane) for excessive defeatism about the Iraq war. (Prize: "a stuffed ready-to-eat crow on a silver platter.")

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: dcchapter; eatingcrow; garofaloawards
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ROTFLMAO. The Garofalos are giving liberals heartburn.
1 posted on 05/04/2003 9:55:44 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn
The Garofalos are giving liberals heartburn.

Crow does tend to stick in their craw, doesn't it...LOL...

2 posted on 05/04/2003 10:00:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: kristinn
Something other than logic is at work here. Republicans, right-wingers at that, control every branch of the national government -- the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and, increasingly, the lower federal courts. Why, then, this intense wounded rage?

Gee, why don't you tell us oh wise W Post person? Perhaps because of articles like this by left wingers?( right wingers control the lower federal courts? Hello?)

3 posted on 05/04/2003 10:06:15 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: EternalVigilance
It stuck in his, hehe.
4 posted on 05/04/2003 10:13:16 PM PDT by kristinn ("Anti-War" Movement is in a Quagmire)
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To: ladyinred
He's a professor at Columbia. He knows what he's talking about. (/sarcasm)
5 posted on 05/04/2003 10:14:42 PM PDT by kristinn ("Anti-War" Movement is in a Quagmire)
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To: EternalVigilance
Don't the French have a sauce recipe to go with Crow?

I'm sure the heartburn crowd can find a recipe on the net...just type "Liberal tendency" in Google search.

6 posted on 05/04/2003 10:18:36 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: kristinn
Bump
7 posted on 05/04/2003 10:19:18 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: kristinn
From Todd Gitlin, sixties counter-culture radical and Marxist dialectician.

And is this not the second piece on the same theme to appear recently?

If Liberalism Is Such A Dead Horse, Why Beat It?, by Michael Skube, yet another journalism professor...

The hive is gathering its talking points, refining its strategy. Looks like they're going to play at playing possum for a while...

8 posted on 05/04/2003 10:20:57 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: kristinn

I get the sense that he thinks we should stop kicking them, because they're down.

Heh.


9 posted on 05/04/2003 10:23:35 PM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: kristinn
Todd says "WaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaExcerpted - click for full article ^
10 posted on 05/04/2003 10:23:48 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Light Speed
I think Nick Danger (post #9) has it right. The way the left is acting, we should serve them crow with "... fava beans and a nice Chianti."
11 posted on 05/04/2003 10:39:57 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: okie01; Nick Danger; Jim Robinson
We will not be silenced. We will remind the public of what the left says and does. We will speak out about the damage they have done and wish to do to this country.
12 posted on 05/04/2003 10:43:11 PM PDT by kristinn ("Anti-War" Movement is in a Quagmire)
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From the article:
It is not part of the left's frame of mind to offer smart domestic security programs to counter Attorney General John Ashcroft's heavy hand. And perhaps most damaging, the left is not in the habit of proposing a constructive foreign policy.

Domestic Policy. Foreign Policy. Baseball analogy would be: Liberals suck at home, they suck on road trips. That spells losing season in any league (even in the sandlots where the dems play).

In politics what it works out to is they are not fit to lead. That anyone even seriously considers them for office is a miracle.

The dems don't belong on the hallowed playing field- not even as umpires. Their rightful place is in the cheap seats, the sparsely populated outfield bleachers- shagging foul balls for souvenirs, scrapping over the occasional home run, spitting at and taunting the outfielders for being rich and able, getting ejected...

13 posted on 05/04/2003 10:48:24 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: kristinn
FreeRepublic.com, a right-wing super-site

wow,we are a super-site,VRWC members.

14 posted on 05/04/2003 10:52:27 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: capitan_refugio

Arch duh! Triumph...not so much tri-umph for the French in this pic : )

Heavy sigh.....Liberals just don't get it do they

15 posted on 05/04/2003 10:53:31 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: kristinn
Freepers rock !
16 posted on 05/04/2003 10:53:34 PM PDT by ChadGore (Freedom is as natural as a drawn breath.)
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To: kristinn
"FreeRepublic.com, a right-wing super-site..."

Hey, I like the sound of that!

17 posted on 05/04/2003 11:06:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!!)
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To: kristinn
I love it when they whine.
18 posted on 05/04/2003 11:07:56 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: kristinn
FreeRepublic.com, a right-wing super-site based in Fresno, Calif., rails against "terrorist supporting leftists,"

Yeah, It's the same leftist morons that have taken California from 4 billion dollar surplus to a 34 billion dollar deficit!

The liberal leftist, anti-American freaks can't even balance a simple budget, and instead are doing their best to drive California into a financial ditch. Thank Gawd Gray Davis has murdered his own political future. California couldn't take anymore of his brand of leadership.

And to think they were going to run this clown for higher office!

19 posted on 05/04/2003 11:08:15 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: kristinn
FreeRepublic.com, a right-wing super-site ...

I like it.

20 posted on 05/04/2003 11:10:57 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Light Speed
An armored unit of the Wehrmacht (c. May 1940), if I am not mistaken. Nice post.
21 posted on 05/04/2003 11:28:40 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Joe, Joe, Joe ... you're out of date man, it's $51 Billion now!
22 posted on 05/04/2003 11:30:28 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: kristinn
Liberal dogma: FR bad, DU good.

I would wager he went over to DU, took one look and run like hell to remove all traces his puter ventured into the shades of hades found there. For a liberal leftest to see DU, is to deny it exists.
23 posted on 05/05/2003 1:02:31 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: kristinn
Right Wing -- There's a term that means absolutely nothing.

It means nothing because it gets used for everyone more conservative than Jim Jeffords and Olympia Snowe. Boiled down, that argument says that only liberalism is a valid viewpoint to hold. On its face, that's absurd.

It also means nothing because of the old left/right argument that asks WHAT this supposed scale is measuring. On the left we have.....what? On the right we have....what? I can think of lots of things to name the scale, but that's the point. It's used for so much that it means nothing. (For example if you tell me "nazi" is on the right and "communist" is on the left, then I've got to point out that both groups are socialist. So on a scale of socialism we have what....the progression from state socialism to world socialism??? Who knows. I do know it doesn't include American conservatives, because they aren't socialist AT ALL. So how could they be on the scale?)

24 posted on 05/05/2003 2:46:47 AM PDT by RockBassCreek
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To: RockBassCreek
You are too analytical. You need to learn to just stick with the name calling. LOL.
25 posted on 05/05/2003 4:23:13 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
I would wager he went over to DU, took one look and run like hell to remove all traces his puter ventured into the shades of hades found there. For a liberal leftest to see DU, is to deny it exists.

I am curious. Why do you say this. DU distills out the essence of leftist philosophy. I've never heard a leftist criticize DU.

26 posted on 05/05/2003 4:40:35 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: capitan_refugio; Light Speed
There were no PzKw V Panthers in 1940. The first large deployment wasn't until Kursk in '43. That's likely on the way out of town in '44.
27 posted on 05/05/2003 4:55:14 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: capitan_refugio
Not 1940! That's a Mark V Panther Tank. Picture is probably 1944, July or August. Unit is likely using Paris as a transit to meet Allies breaking out of Normandy. Panthers were not seen in West until just before D-Day. They debuted in Russia in 1943. They were built as a response to the T34.
28 posted on 05/05/2003 5:49:44 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: devildogO341; JamesParmelee; Dave Dilegge; BufordP; ironman; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; leadpenny; ...
D.C. Chapter ping !
29 posted on 05/05/2003 5:58:42 AM PDT by kristinn ("Anti-War" Movement is in a Quagmire)
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To: EternalVigilance; kristinn; Angelwood; tgslTakoma; Jim Robinson; All
FreeRepublic.com, a right-wing super-site

Hey, per the major media, we're officially a super-site. Cool! GREAT JOB everyone!

30 posted on 05/05/2003 6:23:37 AM PDT by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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To: kristinn
Excellent.
31 posted on 05/05/2003 6:40:00 AM PDT by ironman
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To: kristinn
Rush Limbaugh calls liberal New York Times columnist and Princeton economist Paul Krugman "ferret-like" and groundlessly accuses him of peddling "idiotic kook conspiracy theories."

"groundlessly"???

32 posted on 05/05/2003 6:42:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: ladyinred
Perhaps because of articles like this by left wingers?( right wingers control the lower federal courts? Hello?)

I bet that the 'mailings' to leftist groups pose this to be true. Look how they are so focused on preventing President Bush's nominees. The left are so SCARED of 'right-wing' judges that it has overtaken their entire political worldview. they seem to equate any judge who does not believe in judicial activism as a threat to the future of leftist ideology.

33 posted on 05/05/2003 8:13:35 AM PDT by maica (Home of the FREE because of the BRAVE)
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To: kristinn
Todd Gitlin? He's writing about what the "right" thinks??!!!

AMAZING!! Only the Washington Post would think such a far-left guy as Todd Gitlin has a CLUE what the right thinks.

Here's a really radical idea: next time the Post wants to know what the right thinks, how about getting a conservative author to explain it? Not some ex-SDS leader from the 60's well-know for socialist leanings. This guy is so left he's spent a lot of timing attacking his university, Harvard University, as too right-wing.
34 posted on 05/05/2003 8:54:17 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Xthe17th
Yeah, what's a supersite though? I don't understand.
35 posted on 05/05/2003 8:54:50 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: FreeTheHostages; Xthe17th; kristinn; Jim Robinson
right-wing supersite

Ya think ol' Todd mighta meant to say "super-right-wing site" instead? ;D

36 posted on 05/05/2003 9:00:58 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
or maybe "super, rightwing site?" ;)
37 posted on 05/05/2003 9:09:32 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages (trying not to laugh)
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To: capitan_refugio
Joe, Joe, Joe ... you're out of date man, it's $51 Billion now!

I quite counting at 34. You keep counting, and report back.

38 posted on 05/05/2003 9:33:27 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: kristinn; oldglory
I LOVE IT!!!!!

I saw you on Fox and Friends (videotaped it, too), and your appearance was as effective as ever!

They would pay no attention at all to us unless they viewed us as an EFFECTIVE THREAT to their Marxist agenda.

And if anyone thinks "Marxist" is too strong a word, they should go to http://www.marxist.com and see if they can find anything there that doesn't match what is advocated in 95% of the mainstream media. Hahahaha

EAGLES UP!!!
39 posted on 05/05/2003 9:40:52 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Marxist DemocRATS, Nader-Greens, and Militant Islam are a clear and present danger to our Freedoms.)
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To: FreeTheHostages
Yeah, what's a supersite though? I don't understand.

You know, we're an all-in-one, one-stop shopping web site, where we conservatives can apply for loans, buy and trade amongst ourselves, skirt the legal process (and taxes) of passing our wealth to our offspring, get the insider trading tips that keep us in the top 1 percent in income, monitor and make the backroom deals that keep the Supreme Court and lower courts stacked with ultra right-wing judges, as well as manufacture, supply and sell all American flags. And we do all this through our secret access code, you know, the one you got when your registration on FR was verified.

40 posted on 05/05/2003 9:44:42 AM PDT by rabidralph (War is over--FR is back to pissing and bickering.)
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To: rabidralph
Oh, THAT stuff. You mean our Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Got it. Well, this reference to "super" surely is a close cousin of "vast" -- I should have guessed.
41 posted on 05/05/2003 9:57:56 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: kristinn
!!!!!!!
42 posted on 05/05/2003 10:48:45 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: kristinn
Jonathon Alter wrote something similar in Newsweek. He opened the piece by quickly trying to level the moral playing field...kind of a lefty journalistism "Can't we all just get along?"

He said the "ultra-right wing" should admit it was wrong, and the left should to. Don't follow the logic? That's OK--no one can.

Oh, he said that "Liberalism" was the vanguard against tyranny and opression too. That was at least funny.

43 posted on 05/05/2003 10:54:38 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
I saw Johnnyathon on the Today show with little Miss "up your @ss" girl.

She would have tried to french kiss him but she was to busy trying to lick off what was left of the Clinton DNA from his chin.

Crying about Bill Bennett and gambling. Boo hoo Bill Bennett shouldn't say mean things against the Criminals like the Arkantrash Hillbillies, Like it makes the Clintons felonies including accusations of Rape okay.

Yeah, Johhny don't dribble.

44 posted on 05/05/2003 11:04:39 AM PDT by Area51
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Sad, isn't it? I wonder, had the truth of the financial state of the State was known before the election, that Simon might have won. (I still have my Simon sticker on my truck.)
45 posted on 05/05/2003 11:39:53 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: xkaydet65; FreedomPoster
I'll take you guys' word for it! You know the back end of a German tank much better than me. ;^)
46 posted on 05/05/2003 11:42:58 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: kristinn
The little whiny babies....
47 posted on 05/05/2003 12:05:13 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Take only as directed.)
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To: capitan_refugio; xkaydet65
At least we had our stories straight. ;-)
48 posted on 05/05/2003 3:24:34 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: ladyinred
Something other than logic is at work here. Republicans, right-wingers at that, control every branch of the national government -- the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and, increasingly, the lower federal courts. Why, then, this intense wounded rage?

I won't be satisfied till the free press is in the hands of reasonable, balanced, well-taught journalistic minds in people who love this country and stand up for why it exists.

49 posted on 05/05/2003 3:30:39 PM PDT by GretchenEE (We export freedom)
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To: kristinn; Angelwood
FreeRepublic.com, a right-wing super-site based in Fresno, Calif., rails against "terrorist supporting leftists," and gives "Garofalo Awards" (after antiwar comedian/actress Janeane) for excessive defeatism about the Iraq war. (Prize: "a stuffed ready-to-eat crow on a silver platter.")

32 hand-dyed "dead" birds, and glue - $45
10 "silver" and "gold" platters - $20
1 bunch of fresh parsley - $.89

National media coverage more than a week ago resulting in thousands of still-apoplectic leftists - Priceless!

50 posted on 05/05/2003 4:56:01 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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