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Introducing FR's Computer Central
May 4, 2003 | Computer Central

Posted on 05/04/2003 11:51:32 PM PDT by Computer Central

Welcome to FreeRepublic.com's unofficial "Computer Central"!

The main purpose of FreeRepublic.com is to have discussions about government and politics. And culture, science, religion and about any subject in the 'news'. We use computers to access FR and there are articles that discuss computers. And continually, there are vanity threads with technical questions about computer problems. I've noticed that these threads get a good response from FReepers who appear to be knowledgable about computers. There are also threads such as "HTML Bootcamp" and "HTML Sandbox".

I would like to suggest that FR needs a "FR Computer Central". If such a site already exists, please provide a link. If not, this "Computer Central" site can be a start.

I know there are websites that specialize in answering technical questions about computer problems. If someone wants to provide some links, I will post them.

There are individual FReepers who have a lot of knowledge about computers. If they were willing to be available to answer questions, that would be nice. If these FR profile homepages had some interactive features, we could have a way for a FReeper to list their name on 'Computer Central', and then click a box to indicate that they are online, and willing to answer questions about computer problems. Just an idea.

If FR were to develop a first class computer-help, it would be another reason for people to visit FR, and maybe stick around and learn something about FR. Of course, it would also be an additional load on the server and the bandwidth.

Exactly how this Computer Central develops and operates, remains to be seen.

For now, Computer Central will have just a few links, and, some technical questions that I have about computers.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: faq
My Vanity Section: I have some of my own technical questions that I would like to have answered.

I have some writing that I want to do, and I am looking for a HP Laptop. To save money, I'm looking for an older HP 386 / or 486 laptop. I have a preference for Hewlett Packard & Intel, but I want to avoid bying any more products from the Bill Gates' / MS empire.

I had a couple of years experience with WordPerfect 5.1, and then a little with 6. For the writing that I want to do, I really want to get back to WP5.1.

So I have technical questions about configuring the following:

1. Does WordPerfect 5.1 work only with DOS? Will WP5.1 work with LINUX, or some other OS? (I've had some experience with UNIX. Do people ever use UNIX on a PC or laptop; and would UNIX support WP5.1?)

2. Did Bill Gates invent DOS? Is there a DOS that is non-Gates? If so, where can I get it, or download it? I hear that some LINUX is difficult. Is there a simple LINUX that is basic to operate and uses a small amount of disk space? Or, is there some other simple OS that will work with WP5.1?

I was told to go to E-bay. I used search, but I couldn't find any HP 386/486 laptops. I called a store in Sacramento, they have several for $60. (500 MB HD, 8 MB RAM) I was hoping for more like $40. Ebay has several offers for WP5.1. Now I need to get my questions answered concerning a simple operating system (non-Gates).


LINKS:
TCPA: Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid (if you use a PC) - [MS / Intel Alliance for control]
1 posted on 05/04/2003 11:51:32 PM PDT by Computer Central
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To: RedWing9; yonif; AppyPappy; Robert_Paulson2; Cicero; tophat9000; dennisw; Alouette; Samurai_Jack; ..
Welcome to Computer Central!
2 posted on 05/04/2003 11:57:20 PM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Computer Central
Have you ever used Star Office for Unix variants?
3 posted on 05/04/2003 11:58:48 PM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Computer Central
As far as OS, Linux is not hard to learn - depends on the depth of learning and usage you want/need. You could set up a linux based system running star office and do just fine without being a geek.

I installed Linux on a P-Pro-200 and it runs great, I also run win 2000 server and Solaris 8. All were pretty easy to set up and get going (Though solaris took the longest as I was setting up 20 HD's - but barring that it was quick and painless)

Set up should work fine for you, and Linux has some nice GUI's if you want them (KDE/Gnome) as does solaris for that matter (cde/gnome). As far as running WP/Basic someone probably has an emulator somewhere :)

4 posted on 05/05/2003 12:04:05 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Computer Central
Obviously what you are trying to do is go back to the programs and operating systems that do not use upper memory or multi-tasking interface.

My question is why?
5 posted on 05/05/2003 12:07:48 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: Computer Central
Try this, rather than a News/Activism thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/t-computers/browse
6 posted on 05/05/2003 12:13:03 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: chance33_98
+ ever used Star Office? +
No, I haven't. I'm wondering if you use Unix on a PC?
When I first got on the internet, I had a textual browser, with a Unix shell account on the server. I learned some of the basic commands.
7 posted on 05/05/2003 12:15:37 AM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Computer Central
I would like to suggest that FR needs a "FR Computer Central"

Perhaps it's own ping list for assisting others. Many varied geeks out there like myself, and each has a different expertise. A general pinglist would be good. Perhaps, if your so inclined, keep a list of freepers on your FR profile page with a link to their page/mail and give a brief overview of what each is best at (so as to avoid mass mailings of MAC questions to unix folks).

My basic skills are ccna, solaris, linux, windows, data bases (oracle, mssql, etc), PERL, various other programming languages, html (non-flashy thank you), and a whole host of other thingees.

I prefer to do my own development and mainly for myself (mainly things of a mathematical bent or data grabbing) but if someone needs something I would consider helping out (example, a little perl script to port all the names of anyone who responds to you from a thread and auto-create a nice ping list ;)) I have enough stress writing some things for myself but am willing to help out fellow freepers if time permits (i have a two year old at home....)

So there is my info if things get going feel free to put me down as someone willing to lend a hand - ALSO let me add this - I have web space available for those who need some pics hosted. Have also been working on a simple script to allow someone to email me a photo, it will drop it into their directory, and then email them a link to it (for the html/computer impaired). I won't have that running online until I move in a few months and get new dsl service (have it now, but want to make sure I have same carrier etc - basically I am too lazy to reconfig it all once it is done ;)

8 posted on 05/05/2003 12:18:04 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Computer Central
No, I haven't. I'm wondering if you use Unix on a PC?

I run it on both a sun server (4 processors/1 gig ram) and on a Linux machine (P200) - to be honest, the program is written well enough that the solaris version does need seem all that much faster on the server (except when doing spreadsheet calcs and such - but for what your doing would work well).

As far as running it on a windows box, have not tried it.

9 posted on 05/05/2003 12:20:33 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: chance33_98
Thanks for the info on post #4. And your last comment, I will need to know: + As far as running WP/Basic someone probably has an emulator somewhere :)+

Emulator. I'll need to get some details on that. Thanks!

10 posted on 05/05/2003 12:22:04 AM PDT by Computer Central
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To: chance33_98
bad grammar...or is it poor grammar. At any rate, last post shows I am getting tired :) either time for coffee or bed, just not sure which one...
11 posted on 05/05/2003 12:22:12 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Computer Central
1. Does WordPerfect 5.1 work only with DOS? Will WP5.1 work with LINUX, or some other OS? (I've had some experience with UNIX. Do people ever use UNIX on a PC or laptop; and would UNIX support WP5.1?)

I assume WP5.1 only works in a DOS environment, including Win9x and the DOS emulation of NT. If whoever owned WP at the time produced ported it, they probably ported it to Mac.

2. Did Bill Gates invent DOS? Is there a DOS that is non-Gates? If so, where can I get it, or download it? I hear that some LINUX is difficult. Is there a simple LINUX that is basic to operate and uses a small amount of disk space? Or, is there some other simple OS that will work with WP5.1?

Bill Gates did not create DOS, he purchased an implementation of it. You can find DRDOS and PCDOS if you look hard enough, but I think it would be very foolish to use an ancient, unsupported operating system for any semi-serious work. FreeDOS is newer, and may be what you're looking for. If you want to use DOS on Linux (nb the capitalization) you will need to use a DOS emulator like dosemu in conjunction with some version of DOS.

12 posted on 05/05/2003 12:23:16 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: chance33_98
That's not going to work very well on the class of computer he's looking at purchasing.
13 posted on 05/05/2003 12:26:25 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: Caesar Soze
Good Point! I keep fogetting he wants it for 486 :) Like I said, I am way tired. In that case freedos would be a good route, unless someone knows better (and for those so inclined check out fresco, don't even need a HD and you can set up a nice router with that old PC collecting dust)
14 posted on 05/05/2003 12:49:57 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: JoeSixPack1
+ upper memory or multi-tasking +
I need a word processor that I like, and that's about it. I want to write on a laptop, and then just copy files to 3.5" disks. I'll use a desktop to get it online. Getting a 486 is within the budget at this time.

In '94, I started writing on a used HP 286 desktop. It had Win 3.0, which I rarely used. I did most of my work between DOS 5 & WP. For the immediate project I have in mind, WP allows 2 screens & macros... That's enough 'multi-tasking' for now.

+ upper memory + - That's a term I've heard over the years. But, I don't know the technical implications, as it applies to what I need.

15 posted on 05/05/2003 12:55:18 AM PDT by Computer Central
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To: chance33_98
I'm a collage student recently recieved as AS in MSSP and Net+ Cert -- I have a sun ultra 66 at home it is like new a former UAF (university of alaska fairbanks) Server the problem is both the floppy and CDrom are turned off and I have neither the root or Bios passwords.

I have spoken to some admins at UAF and have been given a sequence to stop the boot process and boot from a disk or floppy however it would not read my red hat 7.3 cd boot disk or even a knoppix disk -- I am waiting now for a copy of solaris 8 (the ultra's current OS)from e-bay to arrive and try again. What I was wondering is since you have a running solsris 8 (possibly an ultra 66 or something close enough) could you make me a boot disk?

I've had the machine in my house for almost 2 months and would like to start learning how to use it.

16 posted on 05/05/2003 12:57:07 AM PDT by Rocketman (Sun Mirco -- solaris 8 question)
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To: optimistically_conservative
# 6 = Good Link!

Live & learn, but also some confusion on posting. News/Activism is at the top of my FR screen. I went thru the entire menu of my profile page, trying to switch to "Technical". When I posted, I checked FR & Technical. But, I guess that wasn't enough.

I just clicked on that #6 link, and the list of articles looked really good. How would a new user to FR have been able to find it? Anyway, I will get that link on my FR homepage for other people with questions to check it out. It may be a good tool for an 'FR Computer Central'; or, maybe that is the best place to go. Thanks!

17 posted on 05/05/2003 1:07:27 AM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Computer Central
Ah So!

Good luck. Programs are easy to find as everybody's closet has a crate full of old programs. Getting them to work is the fun!

The upper memory I spoke of intilizes a dos emulator called Himem.sys. The big jump from dos 3.5 to dos 5 was upper memory. Programs of the 3.5 era work well in dos 5 but the reverse requires a bypass line in the autoexec or a sim'd boot. But I most definately forgot more than I remember of those days. :-)
18 posted on 05/05/2003 1:12:35 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: chance33_98
Your idea of a 'ping-list', that also gives people's specialities. Great idea! (I think FR should also have that in political subjects.) As time permits, I would like to help compile that for this computer help. I went through a couple of articles & got a list of names, but I didn't keep track of the specific comments. As time permits...
For now, I'll make mention of "chance33_98" on my personal page. Thanks for the input!
19 posted on 05/05/2003 1:29:17 AM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Caesar Soze
Thanks for the advice to avoid an ancient DOS. The link to FreeDOS looked promising. If FreeDOS supports WP5.1, that might be the way to go.
20 posted on 05/05/2003 1:39:48 AM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Rocketman
sent ya some freepmail!
21 posted on 05/05/2003 1:44:08 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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Bookmarking for later
22 posted on 05/05/2003 1:44:59 AM PDT by lorrainer (Oh, was I ranting? Sorry.....)
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To: Computer Central
Let me know if you need help stripping out names and such. A ton of ways to do it (like save the source and grep/sed/awk) or a full fledge perl script to navigate to the page(s) and do all the work from start to finish. I am going to be wrapped up most of this week (my long work week, 5 nights of 12a-12p) but I usually spend most my nights at work either freeping or studying (the servers run fairly well there, out of 400+ I only avg 1-2 down ones a week).

If you're running windows on a desktop look into cygwin sometime, pretty slick (Cygwin is a Linux-like environment for Windows) Lets you do grep/sed/awk/etc and so on (better than using MS's toolkit for unix, on which I have posted articles previously).

There are a zillion things out there, and it is good to see so many people here with varied experience and knowledge. I have a lot of gaps, good to see them filled in! :)

23 posted on 05/05/2003 1:50:35 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Computer Central
I had a couple of years experience with WordPerfect 5.1, and then a little with 6. For the writing that I want to do, I really want to get back to WP5.1.

No you don't. You will be back to fighting memory problems and risking lost data. Step up to StarOffice or OpenOffice and save yourself the heartache.

24 posted on 05/05/2003 6:47:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Computer Central; chance33_98; JoeSixPack1; optimistically_conservative; Caesar Soze; Rocketman; ...
While we're on the subject of old computers, I hear that Rotary Club sponsors some sort of program that collects and refurbishes old computer equipment/software for schools/the needy.

Being that I have a closet-full of one of each (Tandy, 286, 386SX, 486, early Pentiums, laptops [sorry, none HP], monitors, drives, disks, manuals, etc., etc) just collecting dust and taking up space, I'd like to know. Hey, they're good for simple games and the 386 on ups work for light typing and spreadsheet use. I even used to do AutoCad and engineering work on the later models.

FUND-RAISING IDEA: Perhaps we can assemble our own list of old FReeper equipment and sell it for cash - proceeds half to FR and half to charity? We'll need to also put together a volunteer list of aplicable tech skills. LMK,

- Jeff in WV

25 posted on 05/05/2003 7:01:52 AM PDT by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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To: Xthe17th
Our local schools have very strict standards on donated PC's because of maintenance costs. They don't want to become a dumping ground for old computers and spend lots of money trying to keep them running.

It costs less than $300 to build a good computer so resale values aren't very good on old ones.

26 posted on 05/05/2003 7:11:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
Yep, but the oldies are good for young kids to play with. A good learning experience. Probably learn more just trying to repair them... a cheap technical indoctrination, IMHO. (learn about electronics, basic computer structure, can open up drives/floppies to study mechanisms, etc.) Somewhere around here I have an old 8088 chip cut-open and encased in clear lucite. Children are sponges. Inquiring minds want to know.

my 2¢

27 posted on 05/05/2003 7:19:00 AM PDT by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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To: Computer Central
The reason you are having trouble finding a machine in the class you are searching in is that they suck. The main area of advance in laptops is in battery technology, power management and display. None of the older machines have displays adequate for GUI interfaces.

If you want a text based interface, you might get by with PC-DOS, the IBM version of MS-DOS.

There is a Tandy laptop with an LCD display that field researchers love because it survives physical abuse. It still has followers, even though the technology is old.

28 posted on 05/05/2003 7:35:06 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Computer Central
I have utilized the "My Subscriptions" indexing, that FR provides.
This keeps me up-to-date on the lastest posts on computer related subjects.
You could create a ping list of sorts, like the "bang list" does.

Good luck!

29 posted on 05/05/2003 7:44:29 AM PDT by MissTargets
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To: Computer Central
Take a look on eBay. Bearing in mind that you want to be VERY careful about WHO you buy from on there—find someone with a strong rating—you can get Pentium or PII notebooks quite cheap on there now. You don't want a 386 or 486 because you're going to be SO limited in what you can do. Just no point in it.

And as someone else mentioned, look into StarOffice if you don't like Office. I'm sure someone can give you a current link and it's a full-fledged office suite that I've heard is quite stable now.

Pretty cool idea for the Computer Central, BTW. My expertise is a mish-mash. I've written many articles that were published in several of the large computer magazines, I do general consulting, and I'm presently going through a program to become a certified Computer Forensics Examiner. I'll try to keep an eye on these threads and jump in when I can help.

MM

30 posted on 05/05/2003 7:53:15 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Computer Central
Although I commend you for trying to set this up, I can see the mission is going to be "bash-gates central"... Why not just call it what it is?
31 posted on 05/05/2003 8:14:29 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Apparently, the Hockey God's don't love us much this year...)
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To: Computer Central
Great questions, and as a fairly new user, I doubt I have very good answers. You can ping the Admin Moderator or Jim Robinson with questions or ideas on useability improvements.

I bookmarked this posting and found it very useful for organizing and managing threads using the sidebar: The Ultimate Sidebar Management Thread

You also probably already know how to modify your subscriptions.

32 posted on 05/05/2003 9:13:55 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: Computer Central
I have a question, oh guru. I have software on my computer (from whence I know not) that it entitled "FREEDOM", and which claims to be from an outfit called Zero Knowledge. Just what is this garbage anyway?
33 posted on 05/05/2003 9:08:18 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: yay
FYI
34 posted on 05/05/2003 9:18:20 PM PDT by baseballmom
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To: js1138; Computer Central
...Tandy 102 laptop...

I remember those. Very popular with Ham Radio operators for packet terminals. I used (and still use) a more traditional tandy XT style laptop, the 1400FD. A NEC V-20 CPU running at a blistering 10 Mhz, a good sized flip up backlit LCD screen, regular sized keyboard keys, plus a pair of 3.5" floppy drives and MS-DOS 3.32 tricked out with a handy 128K Ramdisk running in upper memory(because two floppies never seem to be quite enough), AND a built in 1200 Baud modem! You could also get 'em with a 40 Meg hard drive, and if CC could find one of those, it'd probably be darn near free and it'd run WP 5.1 just fine.

Dave in Eugene
35 posted on 05/05/2003 9:23:35 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Tagline error. Press ALT-F4 to continue.)
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To: chance33_98; JoeSixPack1; optimistically_conservative; Caesar Soze; AppyPappy; Xthe17th; js1138; ...
Quick Tuesday Morning Hello: (@ 35 posts) TO ALL

1. + #31 - Anti-Gates Site? + - A meaningful 'Compter Central' would welcome ALL computer users. PC's, Apple/Mac, ...all. There can be a section for anti-Gates/MS info/opinions, but it doesn't need to dominate the site. The mission would be to provide computer discussion & help.

2. + #24 - fighting memory problems and risking lost data.. w./WP5.1 + now, you would have to go and remind me of.... thanks.

AND Thanks to All the other Posts. - Good Info, ideas,

AND generally Supportive to the Idea of having an FR Computer Central.

If people were to support the development of a Computer Central, it can't just 'belong' to me. I don't have the time to monitor it 24/7, & I don't have the expertise that others who have posted here.

Normally, Jim Robinson does not want people sharing PASSWORDS on their account. But, others would be needed to help run a 'FR Computer Central'. I'm open to it, if Jim is. This current name & site belongs to FR, if they want to use it.

In addition to doing all the work on FR, people could provide the links to good computer help sites on the web.

That's all for Tues. am.

36 posted on 05/06/2003 5:02:23 AM PDT by Computer Central (For FR Computer Help Questions, Visit http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/905793/posts?page=1)
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To: Computer Central
If such a site already exists, please provide a link. If such a site already exists, please provide a link.

Computer Central is a great idea. Keeps it all in "the family" so to speak. Advice from trusted sources is always appreciated.

Since you asked, here's a link to a great site that has helped me countless times. The denizens there are knowledgeable and responses to questions are always swift and plentiful.

Computing.Net

37 posted on 05/06/2003 5:13:48 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (1/3 Fewer calories than our regular tagline.)
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To: Computer Central
Funny you should post this.
I am about to go cable and wireless and would love input from others who have done it already.

What are the caveats and pitfalls?
Are some router companies more reliable than others?
Is it possible to have a wireless LAN/Internet setup?

So many questions... so little time

38 posted on 05/06/2003 6:08:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: Publius6961
What are the caveats and pitfalls?

Wireless claims of range (300 ft., etc.) are bogus. With luck you'll get 75 feet. Encryption shortens the range, and believe it or not, can cause laptop wireless cards to overheat and shut down. If you aren't doing anything illegal, you might skip wireless encryption and set your access points up to talk only to each other. This is done by specifying the MAC addresses they will talk to. This function will probably require searching through all the menu choices during setup, since it is seldom well documented.

39 posted on 05/06/2003 8:18:16 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Computer Central
A meaningful 'Compter Central' would welcome ALL computer users. PC's, Apple/Mac

I'm sure it would, but given the hits you've had so far I can tell you it would be nothing but...

40 posted on 05/06/2003 10:54:38 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Apparently, the Hockey God's don't love us much this year...)
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To: Computer Central
Try Midwest Electronics. I was just in the shop last week and they had a sizable pile of 486 IBM ThinkPads tagged in the $50 to $75 price range.

Linux, FreeBSD, and most of the other UNIX lookalikes require a fair amount of memory and hard disk space to run, and are *very* tricky to configure on laptops.

For an operating system that will run WP 5.1, try FreeDOS.

41 posted on 05/06/2003 2:05:29 PM PDT by brbethke
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To: brbethke; All
TO All: A Computer Central Good Morning!
42 posted on 05/09/2003 4:14:30 AM PDT by Computer Central (For FR Computer Help Questions, Visit http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/905793/posts?page=1)
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To: Computer Central
Sounds great to me.

Am personally looking for a programmer to write software to play a game interactively over the net such as through MSN Messenger or other sort of instant functionality.

The game is essentially a board game more complicated than checkers but not quite as complicated as chess though similar in many respects.

I have friends all over the world who enjoy playing the game.

Am trying to find a trustworthy, compatible programmer to hire who would quote some prices so I can secure suitable remaining funding.

If you are or know such a person, please FREEPMAIL me.

Blessings,
43 posted on 07/08/2003 2:26:47 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Computer Central
So, this is to be a Microsoft and Intel basing thread???

Get lost.
44 posted on 07/08/2003 2:32:34 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (When the government controls all information, they control you.)
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To: Computer Central
Did Bill Gates invent DOS? Is there a DOS that is non-Gates?

No, he did not. He bought "Q-DOS" (what became MS-DOS) from a company called Seattle Computer Products when IBM came calling to license Microsoft BASIC, then the hot programming language for microcomputers. They mentioned they were also in the market for an OS, and would be talking to Digital Research, which then practically owned the OS market for micros with its CP/M. The rest is history. Bill Gates snagged the OS business by buying a CP/M knockoff and offering to IBM. He became the world's richest man, and Gary Kildall, who wrote CP/M and headed Digital Research, died at a relatively young age, probably from thinking too much about the day he allegedly pushed off the IBM meeting to meet with Atari instead.

CP/M-86 was in fact offered by IBM on the original IBM PC, but Gates' offering was the one that got the IBM-DOS moniker and became the standard.

Digital Research attempted a comeback with DR-DOS, a "better" DOS, but they'd lost market momentum and basically went down the tube. DR-DOS is owned today by The SCO Group. I don't know if they still offer it or support it as a product.

45 posted on 07/08/2003 2:58:17 PM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: Nick Danger
You can download DrDos (now owned by DeviceLogics) and FreeDos from Undercoverdesign.com/dosghost.
46 posted on 07/08/2003 7:47:51 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!!!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Freedom is an Internet security software suite.

In its basic form it contains a firewall, anti-virus and a pop-up blocker. It can also offer a subscription based anonymiser service (shields your real IP address from web sites you visit).

The company's corporate site is at http://www.zeroknowledge.com

47 posted on 07/09/2003 6:52:53 AM PDT by evilC
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