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North Korea Will Nuke American Cities if Provoked
Korea Web Weekly ^ | 5.3.03

Posted on 05/05/2003 12:29:07 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State

North Korea Will Nuke American Cities if Provoked


Korea WebWeekly (May 03, 2003) -- Dr. Kim Myong Chul, Japanese-borne expert on North Korea's military has stated in the past that North Korea has more than 100 nukes, including hydrogen bombs.  In a series of statements recently, Dr. Kim asserts that the nukes will strike American cities if the Bush administration imposes economic sanctions or other hostile moves against North Korea.

In sharp contrast with his past practices, Dr. Kim states that he is speaking for North Korea: he is relaying North Korea's official message to the Bush administration.  During the last meeting of North Korean and American officials in Beijing, the North Korea's chief delegate told his American counterpart that North Korea had at least one nuke.  The US CIA estimates that North 'may have one or two crude nuclear devices.'  

Dr. Kim states that the nukes were built in the 1980's before North Korea signed the Agreed Framework in 1994. It is likely that the US CIA knew about North Korea's nuclear capability but decided to cover it up with its persistent "North Korea may have 1-2 crude devices."  It should be recalled that the US CIA failed to predict the Korean War of 1950 and also the intervention of Chinese forces.  The failure was due to not any lack of intelligence but incorrect analysis of the mountain of intelligence.  

Dr. Kim stated that North Korea's technical capacity of delivering nuclear weapons on missiles was proven by Pakistan's nuclear tests and missile test-fires.  Pakistan claims that it has developed its nukes and missiles on its own.  The bottom-line is that neither North nor Pakistan has violated any international agreements.

US Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld believes North Korea does not have the capability to strike American cities and North Korea is bluffing.  Dr. Kim believes that North Korea will demonstrate its capacity to strike America: it may conduct a series of nuclear explosions and test-fire an ICBM over the US homeland.  The US CIA claims that North Korea's ICBM, Taepodong II, failed in its maiden test and that North Korea's ICBM test site was destroyed in a failed engine test. Recently, the warhead of North Korea's 'failed' ICBM was discovered in Alaska. 

The US hawks led by Rumsfeld believe that Kim Jong Il and Saddam Hussein are cut from the same cloth and that Kim will go the way of Saddam.  It should be noted that when the chips were down, Saddam's 'supporters' deserted his sinking ship and few Iraqis opted to die for him.  The fact of the matter is that the great majority of Saddam's supporters were opportunists and sycophants out to make a fast buck using Saddam's name.  Rumsfeld is convinced that few of Kim's supporters will die for him and that shake Kim's regime a little and he will be gone.

Dr. Kim asserts that Kim Jong Il is no Saddam and that North Korea's military and people will fight to the end and die for Kim; and that unlike Iraq, North Korea does have the military capability and the will to inflict fatal blows not only to the US bases in Japan, Okinawa, and Guam, but also the US homeland.   According to Dr. Kim, North Korea will demonstrate its military capability to hit the US homeland in the very near future.  



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1 posted on 05/05/2003 12:29:08 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Bring it.
2 posted on 05/05/2003 12:30:24 PM PDT by j.havenfarm
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To: Enemy Of The State
Another piece of Bill Clinton's stained legacy.
3 posted on 05/05/2003 12:30:33 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Enemy Of The State
They're going to nuke Hollywood? No, no, no! What disaster!

Is it a coincidence that the most wayward, messed up, liberal state is right by our two biggest enemies in the near future? China and North Korea.

4 posted on 05/05/2003 12:31:23 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: Enemy Of The State
test-fire an ICBM over the US homeland.

We could save the North Koreans a whole lot of pain by telling them now that test firing an ICBM over US territory would be a very big mistake.

5 posted on 05/05/2003 12:31:55 PM PDT by Pete
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To: Enemy Of The State
Thank you Jimmy Carter! By the way, JC, would like to see that Nobel returned due to your imcompetence. Thank you Billy Bubba Clintoon! This is something that can be laid at each of your doors, you miserable piece of American RAT trash.
6 posted on 05/05/2003 12:32:58 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Enemy Of The State
Recently, the warhead of North Korea's 'failed' ICBM was discovered in Alaska.

Whether or not the warhead was inert, wouldn't this be an act of war?

7 posted on 05/05/2003 12:33:07 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Enemy Of The State
That's right, the Korean's are distributing millions of Microwave ovens to the citizens of The United States of America in hopes they will nuke their meat and vegetables!
8 posted on 05/05/2003 12:34:00 PM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: Enemy Of The State
BWWAAAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA
9 posted on 05/05/2003 12:34:22 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: Enemy Of The State
Can we give the NKs the GPS coordinates of Portland, OR, Berkely, CA, and San Francisco, CA? I mean I would hate to lose any American city, but if we are going to lose any we might as well lose the ones that facilitated NK getting nukes by giving Mr. Bill political cover.
10 posted on 05/05/2003 12:34:24 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Enemy Of The State
"Dr. Kim believes that North Korea will demonstrate its capacity to strike America: it may conduct a series of nuclear explosions and test-fire an ICBM over the US homeland."

On the other side of this belief is the American response of TAD of NK. There is no proven method to pre-determine a "test-fire" from an actual attack, which could provoke a response NK can't afford to gamble with. Fools....

11 posted on 05/05/2003 12:36:13 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: Enemy Of The State
North Korea is obviously the national version of a mad dog. Time to kill it.
12 posted on 05/05/2003 12:40:14 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: Enemy Of The State
I bet we've been itching to test our newest weapons, but can't find a suitable testing site for a 500 mile shock wave...looks like N. Korea will fit the bill nicely. :)
13 posted on 05/05/2003 12:41:48 PM PDT by Capitalism2003
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To: azhenfud
...could provoke a response NK can't afford to gamble with. Fools.

They think we haven't the belly for it.

Will you indeed, Mr. Torrance? I wonder. I have my doubts. I and others have come to believe that your heart is not in this, that you haven't the belly for it.
14 posted on 05/05/2003 12:42:12 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: Enemy Of The State
This guy is a madman. Even Russia and China were not stupid enough to want to obliterate their own countries.
15 posted on 05/05/2003 12:42:42 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Enemy Of The State
"Oh someone please notice our sorry ass little country and my stupid ass haircut!!"
16 posted on 05/05/2003 12:42:47 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: johnb838
What is the source of that quote?
18 posted on 05/05/2003 12:43:58 PM PDT by mark_interrupted
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To: Enemy Of The State
"The fact of the matter is that the great majority of Saddam's supporters were opportunists and sycophants out to make a fast buck using Saddam's name."

I could be wrong, but that usually happens when a dictator's "loyal subjects" are held in line by the fork-and-bowl method - especially if they KNOW what else is cooking in the kitchen.

19 posted on 05/05/2003 12:46:35 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: mark_interrupted
You like it? It's from the Shining when Grady the former caretaker is inciting Jack to murderredrum his wife and child.
20 posted on 05/05/2003 12:47:06 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: Enemy Of The State
Perhaps we should send Madlen Halfbright back to N.Korea to straiten these guys out...
21 posted on 05/05/2003 12:47:26 PM PDT by just me
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To: Kenton
10-4 on that! If they want some, they can get some real quick like. Give us 1 reason to deal with you POS B@stards!
22 posted on 05/05/2003 12:48:13 PM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Enemy Of The State
The results of DPRK firing a nuclear armed missle at any American city would include the elimination of the DPRK to the extent that there would be an island of South Korea and no more North Korea.

In the USA if we lost any City the net result would be an anger sweeping the American people that would result in such an anti-leftist sentiment that the Democat Party might cease to exist. If the city hit were Seattle, San Franciso, or Los Angles the result would also be a complete change in the target states politics forever.

The rest of the world would see a retribution so terrible they would think long and hard before seeking to let the unleashing the nuclear genie at America again.

23 posted on 05/05/2003 12:48:24 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Enemy Of The State
2004 Headline..."Former South Korea Now Island of Korea-- North Korea Now Korean Strait."
24 posted on 05/05/2003 12:48:49 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: cynicom; Enemy Of The State; johnb838; seleniteswells
I wonder if anyone at the State Department believes Kim Jong Ill is "off his meds and back in therapy?".. Hmmmm.... or such rhetoric only reserved for controversial right-wingers in the United States critical of the State Department's dismal record on dictators...
25 posted on 05/05/2003 12:52:50 PM PDT by BaghdadBarney
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To: lilylangtree
Thank you Jimmy Carter! By the way, JC, would like to see that Nobel returned due to your imcompetence. Thank you Billy Bubba Clintoon! This is something that can be laid at each of your doors, you miserable piece of American RAT trash.

And thank you Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush who allowed North Korea to build plutonium extraction capabilities, and produce nuclear weapons, as well as long range missile technology, while ignoring IAEA demands for open inspections of nuclear facilities.

Sigh. It's time to put North Korea out of our misery.

26 posted on 05/05/2003 12:57:00 PM PDT by stimpyone
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To: harpseal
"In the USA if we lost any City the net result..."

I won't speculate of the full consequences, nor can I remotely comprehend the retribution deserved, neither would I trivialize losing 3500 souls and those buildings, but to see the fury in America's "eyes" after 9/11, a whole city lost would mean a definite end to North Korea's existence. As Secretary Rumsfeld would say, "But without question.." this would be their end....

27 posted on 05/05/2003 1:00:24 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: johnb838
"They think we haven't the belly for it."

They've not seen mine....

28 posted on 05/05/2003 1:03:33 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: Enemy Of The State
We must preempt them with a strike on their nuclear facilities.
29 posted on 05/05/2003 1:06:35 PM PDT by yonif
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To: Enemy Of The State
"US Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld believes North Korea does not have the capability to strike American cities and North Korea is bluffing."

I hope we don't have to find out the hard way.

30 posted on 05/05/2003 1:07:04 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Enemy Of The State; All
-The Atomic Genie- what we know about North Korea's Nuclear program--

-Links for Missile Defense- Nuke News--

31 posted on 05/05/2003 1:09:14 PM PDT by backhoe (A nuke for every Kook ( NK, Iraq, Iran, Pak, India... )- what a Clinton "legacy...")
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To: Enemy Of The State
FR News Missile Facts:

http://www.freep.com/pdf/2003/02/13/korea.pdf
32 posted on 05/05/2003 1:12:02 PM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: yonif
Exactly. Whatever happened to the "preemption doctrine"?
33 posted on 05/05/2003 1:12:52 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Enemy Of The State
Pyongyang Pete ( Dr. Kim Myong Chul ) is at it again !

This guy is getting funnier and funnier
34 posted on 05/05/2003 1:13:15 PM PDT by RS (nc)
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To: Enemy Of The State
Recently, the warhead of North Korea's 'failed' ICBM was discovered in Alaska.

Holy CRAP! Anyone have any sources for this nugget? If true, this could be incredibly bad...

=-O ttt

35 posted on 05/05/2003 1:13:35 PM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Enemy Of The State
The US needs a national Nuclear Missile Defense system installed at the earliest opportunity, as I've been arguing for years. I've always said that the most irresponsible nations having any pretensions to nuclear and ballistic missile capability would not be likely to hesitate when faced with the opportunity to blackmail the US with them.
36 posted on 05/05/2003 1:14:03 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: detsaoT
Yay, Google.

http://www.americanfreedomnews.com/archives/news_archives/news_pages/03_march_2003/news_arc_03x05x03.htm

This article is datelined TODAY?! What the HELL?! Have any of the Media covered this so far?

:( ttt

37 posted on 05/05/2003 1:15:35 PM PDT by detsaoT
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To: yonif
"We must preempt them with a strike on their nuclear facilities. "

Even Daschle couldn't get away with calling it "pre-emption" after this kind of talk !

38 posted on 05/05/2003 1:15:37 PM PDT by SENTINEL (USMC GWI)
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To: Enemy Of The State
Kim wouldn't target Southern California and risk taking out the San Fernando Valley's pornography production.
39 posted on 05/05/2003 1:15:49 PM PDT by onedoug
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40 posted on 05/05/2003 1:15:57 PM PDT by keithtoo
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To: detsaoT
Nevermind my dislexia.

05/03 != 03/05.

I will go drink more coffee now.

:) ttt

41 posted on 05/05/2003 1:16:38 PM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Enemy Of The State
Not even the Russian, when they had the ADAVANTAGE in nuclear weapons, were stupid enough to threaten us so blatantly.

IIRC, the "We will bury you" speech of Kruschev's was about as belligerent and blatant as they chose to speak at us.

42 posted on 05/05/2003 1:17:27 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: stimpyone
Awful quick to accept kim myung chul's word for it, aren't you?
43 posted on 05/05/2003 1:18:52 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Enemy Of The State
Dr. Kim asserts that Kim Jong Il is no Saddam and that North Korea's military and people will fight to the end and die for Kim

How do you fight a nuclear warhead?

44 posted on 05/05/2003 1:19:51 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Enemy Of The State
California!? New Mexico?! Nevada!? Oregon!? Washington State!?

No loss there. Those states might as well be know as the "Socialist State of..."

45 posted on 05/05/2003 1:21:32 PM PDT by Luke
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To: seleniteswells
This is ridiculous. We have destroyers parked outside Korea. If he launches anything, it immediately gets shot down. 10 of our missiles are fired. His missiles would not leave Korean air space!

You want to take the chance that they work right? To me the key is how much intelligence we really have on the program. If we know that they don't actually have any nukes, then we should strike their facilities. If we know where nukes are, then we should strike them. The hard part is if we know they have multiple nukes deployed in unknown positions.

46 posted on 05/05/2003 1:21:55 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: keithtoo
Chia Joe.
47 posted on 05/05/2003 1:22:38 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: detsaoT
Every source I found with this "warhead of a long-range missile" sites this as a main source.

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm

I do remember a thread here at FR about this months ago. It was around the same time as the shuttle exploding on reentry....many of us at that time wondered if that shuttle was hit.
48 posted on 05/05/2003 1:23:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: cynicom
This guy is a madman. Even Russia and China were not stupid enough to want to obliterate their own countries.

Hitler, on the otherhand, was. How many lives are you willing to wager about how nuts this guy is?

49 posted on 05/05/2003 1:24:03 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: detsaoT
archives
50 posted on 05/05/2003 1:24:40 PM PDT by azhenfud
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