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Secrets Of A Stone Age Rambo (Otzi, The Iceman)
The Observer (UK) ^ | 5-4-2003 | Robim Mckie

Posted on 05/05/2003 5:29:12 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 05/05/2003 5:29:12 PM PDT by blam
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Locator ^
2 posted on 05/05/2003 5:37:36 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: RightWhale

Juval Castle mentioned in the article, built in 1278ad.

3 posted on 05/05/2003 5:37:43 PM PDT by blam
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Two theories I have heard are, that he was murdered, (probably for revenge as he was not robbed) or that he was a sacrifice of some kind.
4 posted on 05/05/2003 5:38:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somebody should have labeled the future "Some assembly required.")
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"an arrowhead in Otzi's back, just under his left shoulder. This has still to be verified by other researchers."
This discovery has facinated me since it was made. How hard would it be to verify an arrowhead in his back, though?
5 posted on 05/05/2003 5:44:55 PM PDT by Bahbah
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He was shot in the back from below so I always imagined he was a bandit who was chased down and killed by a stone-age posse as he fled up the mountain, his bandit buddies finally abandoning him when it was clear he wasn't going to make it. Seen too many old westerns I guess.
6 posted on 05/05/2003 5:47:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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"This discovery has facinated me since it was made. How hard would it be to verify an arrowhead in his back, though?"

I think they're 'fussing' about harming the mummy by going in to get it. I'm pretty sure I've seen an Xray showing the arrow head though.

7 posted on 05/05/2003 5:47:42 PM PDT by blam
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Some scientists believe he may have been murdered - a theory backed by Italian scientists'...

It was a Mafia hit.

8 posted on 05/05/2003 5:48:47 PM PDT by Consort
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Maybe it was self inflicted.
9 posted on 05/05/2003 5:50:17 PM PDT by irishtenor (Red Green is my hero.)
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That's a small castle, smaller than the entryway to Saddam's main palace. Cannon fire would have to be accurate to hit it at all.
10 posted on 05/05/2003 5:55:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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Arkinside?
11 posted on 05/05/2003 5:58:52 PM PDT by Woodman
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Interesting. I enjoy the archeologists desire to make him into "someone". Given his age, he may have just died a natural death as he traversed from one site to another. If he had a bow, he WAS a hunter...at least for survival AND he was equipped for a "journey"....10 miles, 100 miles, whatever...

A find like this is certainly something to ponder but "what you see is what you get".

12 posted on 05/05/2003 6:01:01 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Many people have had self inflicted wounds to the back, sometimes several wounds. Most were friends of Bill.
13 posted on 05/05/2003 6:05:07 PM PDT by irishtenor (Red Green is my hero.)
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To: LibWhacker; Bahbah; blam
The arrowhead was imbeaded in his hip bone as I recall. They discovered it when they exrayed the body.
14 posted on 05/05/2003 6:10:06 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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"The arrowhead was imbeaded in his hip bone as I recall. They discovered it when they exrayed the body."

Nah. That was Kennewick Man and he survived that injury because the bone was healing around the wound. Albeit, the reports I read was that at minimum he would have been in pain and have a limp. He was about 45 years old when he died.

15 posted on 05/05/2003 6:27:51 PM PDT by blam
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Amazing it took so long
for them to find it.
16 posted on 05/05/2003 6:34:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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I thought I had heard he also had a high level of arsenic in his system, which implied he was involved in copper smelting. There was a show on discovery about him, he really was very high tech for his time, he had like three different kinds of flints in his tinder box and several kind of mosses and grasses. The insides of his shoes were lined with a kind of woven grass, stone age socks.
17 posted on 05/05/2003 6:37:11 PM PDT by djf
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"I thought I had heard he also had a high level of arsenic in his system, which implied he was involved in copper smelting."

Because of the quantity found, they believe he was a smelterer

18 posted on 05/05/2003 6:42:19 PM PDT by blam
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"Amazing it took so long for them to find it."

Yup. I believe some were embarrassed. Thanks for the picture.

19 posted on 05/05/2003 6:44:13 PM PDT by blam
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Not the first time nor the last that I will be wrong. Remember, you heard it here first.
20 posted on 05/05/2003 6:44:44 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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