Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom

Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

[r9etb]

but the facts are that trying to effectively organize folks of a libertarian bent is pretty much like herding cats, but less enjoyable.

Very fun to watch, though.

[f.Christian]

This is the liberal disease ... trivia (( fantasy )) absolute --- truth // reality vacated -- relativists !

[zeugma]

Will fire depts need entry warrants ...

A completely different question is at issue here. A fire department would be acting in the performance of their mandate if there were a fire. If not, they ought to have a valid reason to be there.

if the cops are technically wrong about something ---
oj is innocent -- framed !

I must assume that this is a part of a single thought. It's hard to tell though, as you are posting like someone not entirely in command of his facilities, but yes, I'd support the premise, that if the cops commit a 'techicality', then an obviously guilty man must go free. It is this very concept that keeps us even marginally safe from massive abuses of power.

The very concept of 'tainted fruit' as it relates to evidenciary (sp?) relavance protects all from the likelihood of 'rogue elements' being able to unjustly railroad people.

It is just that a thousand guilty should go free to protect the innocent from unjust imprisionment.

[zeugma]

Speak english or be ignored.

[MineralMan]

"Why didn't some parents go in legitimately and take pics? The school is paid for with the community tax monies. Parents have a right to know what their kids are being taught. (For those that don't know, I teach.)"

A very good question. Some here, apparently, do not realize that they can go to the school during normal school hours and arrange for a visit to their children's classrooms when classes are not in session. They can arrange for a meeting with their childrens' teachers, something very few parents ever bother to do.

Of course, if you blast into the administration office accusing everyone of being a commie at the top of your lungs, you're not likely to get too much cooperation, I'd guess. [grin]

[f.Christian]

The criteria is reasonable doubt --- reasonable ...

not (( reason )) in the faculties of liberals (( lies // evasions )) --- you !

[f.Christian]

mm ...

You may not like the fact that people can hold political views far from yours, but that does not mean they are breaking any laws.

fC ...

how about teaching liberal bias and ideology in public schools ---

it's not supposed to be a bolshevik monopoly --- jihad !

[hedgetrimmer]

I have explained at some schools, they remove questionable materials when they know they are having a visitor, as in the case where I brought a trustee to visit a certain classroom. I mentioned this in an earlier post.

[Freedom2specul8]

Exactly! that's what I'm saying. One does not have to announce oneself. What was it sharon stone said.. "what are you going to do, arrest me?"

[hedgetrimmer]

Actually, being a Communist is not against the law in this country, nor can anyone be fired for being a Communist and being a public school teacher.

Wrong!

CALIFORNIA CODES
EDUCATION CODE
SECTION 88060-88139


88122. In addition to any causes for suspension or dismissal which are designated by rule of the commission, employees in the classified service shall be suspended and dismissed in the manner provided by law for any one or more of the following causes:
(a) Knowing membership by the employee in the Communist Party.
(b) Conduct specified in Section 1028 of the Government Code.

[f.Christian]

... it's (( liberalism // atheism )) not supposed to be an uncontested -- UNQUESTIONED bolshevik monopoly --- jihad !

[MineralMan]

"88122. In addition to any causes for suspension or dismissal which are designated by rule of the commission, employees in the classified service shall be suspended and dismissed in the manner provided by law for any one or more of the following causes:
(a) Knowing membership by the employee in the Communist Party.
(b) Conduct specified in Section 1028 of the Government Code.

"

If I am not mistaken, that section is no longer in force. I'll have to research it tomorrow, though.

[Cultural Jihad]

so sack the teacher for his political beliefs?

Not necessarily, unless the beliefs are too bizarre or too radical or too seditious, but attempting to undermine parental authority or proselytizing one's political beliefs or trying to make little mental clones of oneself in the minds of the students would be beyond the pale.

The policeman is not there on a crimes investigation that I am aware of, but as a concerned citizen he has a right to investigate and share any information he finds about the teacher.

[Don'tMessWithTexas]

Let's suppose that the cop was a flaming lib and the teacher was a conservative that had posters on his wall praising Thatcher, Reagan and William F. Buckley. Suppose that the students made projects extolling the virtues of GWB. If the cop got into the classroom to snap pics, we would be P.O.'s BIG TIME.

[Cultural Jihad]

Hardly so. The leftist cop in your pretend scenario would be laughed at for his little crusade against decency.

[Cultural Jihad]

I disagree with them, but that does not make them a police matter.

The fact that the man who snapped the pictures was a cop is immaterial to the discussion. He is a citizen with rights, too, and as far as I am aware this is not a 'police matter' at all.

[CyberAnt]

In case nobody has mentioned it - Rush has the pictures up at his website. You will not like what you see ..!!

[#3Fan]

The cop stepped over the line here. If he wasn't on official business, he has no more of a right to be in that building at 1:30 in the morning than anybody else.

I used to be in the school after hours. It's a public building.

[#3Fan]

Let's suppose that the cop was a flaming lib and the teacher was a conservative that had posters on his wall praising Thatcher, Reagan and William F. Buckley. Suppose that the students made projects extolling the virtues of GWB. If the cop got into the classroom to snap pics, we would be P.O.'s BIG TIME.

Why? It's liberals that are afraid of truth and exposure, not conservatives.

[Cultural Jihad]

Like your point about "investigation" there was and is no investigation. Why do people keep insisting that there is. Your assuming that this is an abuse of police power. What power did he use to do what? he took pictures of the layout of a class room. That is nothing. To make it into the rebirth of McCarthyism is blowing it way out of proportion.

Exactly. There's a small cabal of anarcho-ideologue loons who make every effort to bash the police and American self-governance at every opportunity.