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U.S. Discoveres Weapons of Mass Destruction Lab..
United Press ^ | 5/7/03 | Pauline Jelnick.

Posted on 05/07/2003 12:53:12 PM PDT by BooBoo1000

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By PAULINE JELINEK The Associated Press Wednesday, May 7, 2003; 2:48 PM

WASHINGTON - American forces in Iraq are doing tests on trailer that matches the description of a mobile biological weapons lab given by various sources including defectors, the Pentagon said Wednesday.

It was the first time the Defense Department has announced it might have evidence of the sort of prohibited unconventional weapons program that justified forcibly disarming Saddam Hussein.

"On the smoking gun, I don't know," Under Secretary of Defense Stephen Cambone said, when asked whether this was a breakthrough in the continuing coalition search for weapons of mass destruction.

Cambone said that what the U.S. military has in its possession is the kind of mobile laboratory that Secretary of State Colin Powell described in a report to the U.N. Security Council as he sought to justify forcibly disarming Saddam.

"They have not found another plausible use for it," Cambone said.

The information Powell gave the U.N., Cambone said, "was based on information from a number of sources and it confirms what the source said."

Cambone said that experts had done initial tests on a trailer taken into custody April 19 at a Kurdish checkpoint in northern Iraq but said that more substantial testing is required.

Cambone said more testing will be required, noting that the surface of it had been washed with a caustic material and it likely would have to be dismantled before testing can be done on hard-to-reach surfaces.

It is painted a military color scheme, was found on a transporter normally used for tanks and - as an Iraqi defector has described Iraq's mobile labs - contains a fermentor and a system to capture exhaust gases, Cambone said.

Earlier Wednesday, Lt. Gen. William Wallace said that American forces have collected "plenty of documentary evidence" suggesting that Saddam had an active program for weapons of mass destruction.

Lt. Gen. William S. Wallace, commander of the Army's V Corps, told a press conference the reason Saddam didn't use unconventional weapons against invading forces may be that these weapons were buried too well to retrieve before the fast coalition dash to Baghdad.

"We've collected evidence, much of it documentary, that suggests there was an active program" for unconventional weapons, Wallace said.

"A lot of the information that we're getting is coming from lower-tier Iraqis who had some knowledge of the program but not full knowledge of the program," he told Pentagon reporters in a videoconference from the Iraqi capital. "And it's just taking us a while to sort through all of that."

He did not elaborate.

The Bush administration said destroying Iraq's suspected chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs was the main reason for the war. Despite weeks of searches of suspected sites, none has been reported found so far. And though Pentagon officials suggested before the war that some Iraqi units were armed with chemical weapons, none was found when those units were overrun.

Experts were still studying a truck suspected to be the first discovered biological-chemical mobile lab, said Wallace, who also was battle commander for the battle of Baghdad.

The suspect truck was handed over to U.S. forces in northern Iraq and was being moved to Baghdad for further investigation, a senior official said later, speaking on condition of anonymity.

On several occasions, troops have found substances they said tested positive as nerve agents or other chemical weapons materials, only to learn from more sophisticated testing that they were crop pesticides, explosives and so on.

The defense official said that he and others "feel good" about the prospect this time that they have found good evidence of an unconventional weapons program.

But they are being careful to cover all bases. He noted that many questions will be asked if it is announced as the evidence - including "chain of custody" information on who has handled the truck and whether it might have been tampered with.

Acknowledging that it was only one of his theories, Wallace said the reason such unconventional weapons never were used was that the Iraqis had to hide them from U.N. weapons inspectors up until the last days before the war.

"Inspectors only left Baghdad a few days before the start of the campaign," Wallace said. "Because they were so clever in disguising them and burying them so deep, they themselves had a problem getting to it."

Wallace said among work his men are doing now is joint police patrols and helping train Iraqis in police procedures.

He said there is still small arms fire in Baghdad and occasional criminal acts that he attributed partly to prisoners Saddam released before the war in an unusual pardon.

Looting also has been a problem in the power vacuum left by the fall of Saddam's regime. "I'm not particularly concerned about security in Baghdad at all," other than that, he said, adding that there are no areas in the entire country that he is "overly concerned about."

Troops are making progress in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, and are expanding operates all the way to the Syrian border in the west of Iraq, he said.

© 2003 The Associated Press


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: biologicalweapons; massdestruction; mobilelab; warlist

1 posted on 05/07/2003 12:53:13 PM PDT by BooBoo1000
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To: BooBoo1000
Don't believe it until it's been notarized and blessed by a priest. I've gotten my hopes up so many times only to have them dashed I don't know if I'll believe it even if it's true.
2 posted on 05/07/2003 1:01:17 PM PDT by IM4TRUTH
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To: BooBoo1000
Weapons lab. WMD.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
3 posted on 05/07/2003 1:02:23 PM PDT by steve86
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To: BooBoo1000

4 posted on 05/07/2003 1:20:49 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: IM4TRUTH
blessed by a priest

Nowadays, that might not even be enough.....

5 posted on 05/07/2003 1:23:17 PM PDT by b4its2late (I don't mind the rat race, but I could do with a little more cheese.)
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To: IM4TRUTH
I don't think hopes have been dashed, it's more there's been no final pronouncement (yet) on any of the dozens of instances where they've found extremely suspicious stuff. These stories appear for about twenty four hours and then ... nothing. No confirmation and no denial that these are chem/bio/nuclear weapons and facilities.

Let's be clear, Saddam Hussein did have WMD's and they were not all destroyed. This stuff will be (I think has been) found and the final collected list will blow most people away. You can call it faith, but that's what I believe.

As far as the persistent but unverified reports are concerned, and not to be crude, but the closest analogy that comes to mind involves the color blue and a pair of small spherical objects. It may be a painful process to go through, but personally I expect to be very satisfied when it is finally over.

6 posted on 05/07/2003 1:26:10 PM PDT by katana
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To: katana
I agree, Katana.
7 posted on 05/07/2003 1:30:56 PM PDT by Chameleon
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To: katana
I think we have a mobile lab in hand now and may have had Labs earlier. Today we have :

Possible Mobile Bioweapons Lab Being Tested in Iraq


8 posted on 05/07/2003 1:42:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: Redcloak
Driven by "Dr. Milk"...
9 posted on 05/07/2003 1:44:03 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever (Boycott france and russia for at least 20 years)
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To: BooBoo1000; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; sakka; ...
OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST
10 posted on 05/07/2003 1:44:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: katana
I would like to think that the administration is stacking up all the evidence so after the naysayers have all had their little hissy fit imitations of Yosemite Sam, the Pres will come out and laugh at the lot of them.
11 posted on 05/07/2003 1:54:49 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray for our troops)
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To: katana
On NO! I won't believe it til Hillary says it is WMD and swears allegiance to Dubya.
12 posted on 05/07/2003 2:03:30 PM PDT by Warren
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To: netmilsmom
That's the way I read it, but we'll have to wait and see. It just seems like Dubya has been doing this same thing to his opponents time after time and they just continue to fall for it. I suppose the time to change tactics will be when this strategy no longer works.

"Coach, how may times are you going to run that play?"
"We'll run it till they figure out how to stop it".

13 posted on 05/07/2003 2:03:40 PM PDT by katana
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To: IM4TRUTH
"blessed by a priest..."

Didn't the Pope come down on Bush and Blair?

14 posted on 05/07/2003 2:07:44 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: EaglesUpForever

Driven by "Dr. Milk"...


15 posted on 05/07/2003 2:15:03 PM PDT by kevao
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To: katana
the closest analogy that comes to mind involves the color blue and a pair of small spherical objects.

Maybe I'm a retard, but what in the world are you talking about?

16 posted on 05/07/2003 2:36:30 PM PDT by wizzler
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To: wizzler
Maybe I'm a retard

Never, ever, say such a thing about yourself on this site. Mark my words, there will be legions who will take this comment and work their fingers to the bone to make this statement a de facto self-fulfilling prophecy.

You might as well just change your screen name right now.

P.S. the comment related to the blue dress and the stains thereupon.

17 posted on 05/07/2003 2:44:35 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: katana
Well said.
18 posted on 05/07/2003 2:47:30 PM PDT by k2blader (Reason is our soul's left hand, Faith her right. - John Donne)
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To: wizzler
I'm sure you're not a retard but maybe as a teenager you were lucky enough to have never been "stimulated" for a number of hours without achieving the "objective". When I was younger virginity was more common place than now and our girlfriends put a lot of us into a condition called "blue balls".

My point was that weeks of hearing about all these "discoveries" without final confirmation and at the same time listening to the left crying "see, see, no WMD's!" has left many of us very frustrated.

19 posted on 05/07/2003 2:57:50 PM PDT by katana
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Don't worry -- my saying "maybe I'm a retard" is akin to my saying "maybe my eyes are made out of industrial carpeting." I'm so utterly confident that it's false that there's no risk in saying it.

!



20 posted on 05/07/2003 3:01:18 PM PDT by wizzler
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To: katana
Ahh, thanks for the explanation.

Obviously I wasn't the only one left confused by the vague description -- the poster above me here actually thought it referred to Monica Lewinsky's dress.
21 posted on 05/07/2003 3:02:50 PM PDT by wizzler
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To: wizzler
An analogy too far (and obscure).
22 posted on 05/07/2003 3:25:17 PM PDT by katana
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To: BooBoo1000
This is the same one announced by the media the other day. It's as real as it was the other day. Same story, slightly different spin. Yes, our troops have a couple of them, real ones, but the 'blah, blah, bla-ers' will go with the media and inflict their 'wisdom' on us 'sheep'. These will be the same people who will use these 'debunked' possible weapons finds as their reasoning when they irkingly insist it's just another scam if we find an armed nuke ticking away on a bunker somewhere.

I'm starting to miss the days of the daily 'legalize pot' and 'FREE PADILLA' threads. At least the finds are real, even if the media hype is not. Unlike the media generated SARS thing.

23 posted on 05/07/2003 4:49:09 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: katana
"As far as the persistent but unverified reports are concerned, and not to be crude, but the closest analogy that comes to mind involves the color blue and a pair of small spherical objects"

ROFLOL!!! (I ALMOST ruined a keyboard over that!)

24 posted on 05/07/2003 5:06:23 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: katana
"You can call it faith, but that's what I believe."

Me, too, katana.

Very well said.

25 posted on 05/07/2003 8:45:43 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Never have so many been so wrong about so much.)
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To: BooBoo1000
"smoking gun"
26 posted on 05/08/2003 7:29:52 AM PDT by evets (steve)
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To: BooBoo1000
They found the DNC headquarters?
27 posted on 05/08/2003 10:11:47 AM PDT by talleyman (Kerry's wife defends his manhood: The water was very cold that day.)
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