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My ''Friend'' Bill Clinton
The American Prowler ^ | 5/9/2003 | John W. Whitehead

Posted on 05/08/2003 11:43:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway

I received the strangest letter the other day from James Carville, Bill Clinton's old attack dog and political strategist. Here's what it said:

"Dear Friend, [t]hroughout the eight years of his presidency, you've been one of President Clinton's most loyal supporters. And I had the honor of helping to elect the man twice. So we have much to be proud of."

The letter goes on to ask me to affirm the following statement:

"I'm proud to have supported Bill Clinton during the eight years of his presidency and deeply appreciate what he accomplished for America and the world. Now, I would like to play a personal role in preserving his legacy and ensuring that it lives on."

Call it a hunch, but I think if Clinton were asked his opinion on this statement, he might suggest that I've done enough to contribute to his legacy -- especially considering the fact that it was my involvement in the Paula Jones case that led to his impeachment by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, and his subsequent trial in the Senate in 1999.

I first met Bill Clinton in the early '70s when I was a law student at the University of Arkansas and he was a law professor there. He was also on the verge of running for Congress. I worked part-time for a small newspaper and sought Clinton out for an interview (which became the first political interview he ever did). During the course of the interview, I got to know him and liked him. At that time, Clinton was idealistic, as I also was, and wanted to see some real change in the world. So it was with sadness that I watched the scandals gather around Clinton like a foreboding storm -- not knowing in the beginning that I would again be drawn face to face with him.

It's been six years since the Rutherford Institute agreed to assist Paula Jones in her sexual harassment and discrimination suit against Clinton. What followed was a precedent-setting case that received widespread coverage in the national and international media. Never before had a president's sexual misconduct come under such close scrutiny. Clinton's videotaped deposition during the discovery phase of the case constituted the first time that a sitting president was questioned as a defendant in a court case. And, of course, Clinton's false testimony about his extramarital relations with Monica Lewinsky during that deposition resulted in only the second presidential impeachment trial in American history.

When I first decided to help Paula Jones, critics on both the right and the left attacked me. Since taking on that case, I have been questioned, called a liar, accused of trying to "get" the president and painted as a political right-winger with an agenda no less ambitious than bringing down the president of the United States.

To the contrary, the Rutherford Institute's involvement in the Paula Jones case stemmed from the fundamental principle that no person-not even the president-is above the law. As I have said before, the Jones case was about principle, not politics. And it raised many important issues, such as the importance of protecting women from workplace harassment, the role of the rule of law in our highest offices and the need for leaders with strong moral character and discernment.

In the end, Bill Clinton agreed to settle the sexual harassment and discrimination lawsuit against him, Paula Jones went back to leading a relatively private life, and Monica Lewinsky signed on with Fox to host some sort of dating reality show called "Mr. Personality." As for me, I have continued my work as a human rights attorney, fighting to defend constitutional freedoms whenever they are endangered.

I rarely think about Clinton anymore. So I was especially surprised to receive the letter from Carville. Evidently, it was part of a fundraising campaign for Clinton's Presidential Library and my name being on the mailing list was some sort of fluke. But it left me wondering exactly what Clinton learned from the Jones case and his time in the White House.

When our children and grandchildren study about that time in history -- when the first sitting president was compelled to testify about possible wrongdoing and obstruction of justice -- we will not be able to hide the facts, nor should we, from these young minds. But it would be a tragedy if this were all they learned about the 42nd president of the United States of America.

As one of the youngest presidents to leave office (just two years younger than Jimmy Carter when he returned to his peanut farm), Clinton still has a chance to establish some sort of a legacy. But first he must recover his dignity enough so that he can be taken seriously again. For instance, it is customary for a president to seek out the advice of the former president during a time of crisis, such as war. But, to my knowledge, George W. Bush has not so much as invited Clinton to the White House for a briefing on the war with Iraq -- at a time when Bush is virtually holding hands, here and there, with former Clinton ally Tony Blair.

In his letter, Carville claims the man he "worked for in the White House is not about to retire. It's just not in his nature. He's going to do something significant that helps people." If Clinton is truly concerned about his legacy, as Carville claims, and these are not just empty words crafted for a slick fundraising campaign, then it's time to get down to brass tacks and stop spinning his wheels with semi-frivolous pursuits like talkshows or his latest venture, a 10-week series of point/counterpoint debates on current affairs with former presidential hopeful Bob Dole.

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that Americans are sick and tired of talk, talk, talk. It's time for some action. With the world in such sad shape, "The possibilities," as writer Jeff Jacoby notes, "are limitless."

Clinton could speak out in defense of human rights, or campaign for better health care in the Third World. He could become a college professor and lecture on arms control, international politics, and environmental issues. He could travel to war zones and mediate cease-fires. He could support programs to make farming in stricken countries more productive. He could write books -- and they needn't all be political. He could write about aging, or try his hand at poetry, or even attempt a novel. He could monitor elections in fledgling democracies. He could teach Bible classes. He could work on his relationship with his wife. He could build furniture. Or make wine. Or take up skiing. Or climb Mount Fuji. Unrealistic? Not the sort of things ex-presidents do? Maybe not most ex-presidents. But Jimmy Carter has done them all.

If Clinton really intends his most important legacy to be, as Carville describes it, "something truly important that will help people and improve their lives," then there's no time to waste.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: billclinton; bubba; clinton; clintonlegacy; clintonscandals; criesoncue; disgracedpresident; impeachedpresident; liesoncamera; liesunderoath; mrhillaryclinton; sextypething; sinky; wtc1993; wtc2001; x42
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1 posted on 05/08/2003 11:43:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Clinton teaching bible classes...
2 posted on 05/08/2003 11:49:47 PM PDT by RLK
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To: nickcarraway

This is Clinton's Legacy

3 posted on 05/08/2003 11:51:31 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Clinton fiddled, while America burned)))
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To: nickcarraway
Prankster on phone: "Hello, is this Mr. Blackhead?"

Whitehead: "No, this is Mr. Whitehead..."

Prankster: "Sorry, wrong pimple!"

(click)
4 posted on 05/08/2003 11:53:03 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: nickcarraway
He is traveling the world..slamming the war on terror and undermining foreign affairs,(all to get back at Bush)He is still a menace.He showed no respect for the office of the Presidency when he held the office.Nothing has changed.
5 posted on 05/08/2003 11:55:55 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: nickcarraway
Mr. Whitehead seems to think X42 is somehow redeemable. I'm not so optimistic.

But I do think he could take up skiing. Perhaps one of the Kennedys can show him that "football on skis" thing they do.

6 posted on 05/08/2003 11:56:30 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Destroy the Elitist Democrat Guard and the Fedayeen Clinton using the smart bombs of truth!)
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To: nickcarraway
If Clinton really intends his most important legacy to be, as Carville describes it, "something truly important that will help people and improve their lives," then there's no time to waste.

Clinton could help people and improve their lives by slinking off into a cave in Arkinsaw and never showing his face nor uttering another word in public ever again.

7 posted on 05/09/2003 12:00:00 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Tall_Texan
Mr. Whitehead needs to remove his head from his rectum. We've heard quite enough from Bill Clinton, thank you very much. If only the creep would shut up and fade away, the world would be better off.
8 posted on 05/09/2003 12:05:05 AM PDT by demkicker (I wanna kick some commie butt)
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To: spodefly
Indeed. It's the exact same thought I had, while reading this drivel.

His legacy is already established- one of corruption, treason and graft on a massive scale... Oh, and let's not forget the dereliction of duty, leading to 9/11....

May he live a long, miserable life... With the ultimate punishment a narcissist can suffer- insignificance.

Be well...

10 posted on 05/09/2003 12:13:09 AM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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To: nickcarraway; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/765080/posts
The Clinton Files
various links | 10-08-02 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/723210/posts
Liars-- and Sleaze, Incorporated... ( my files on the clintons and friends )
various links | 7-27-02 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/611951/posts
Hodgepodge O' Hillary
various links | 01-20-02 | backhoe
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/771000/posts
The Atomic Genie- what we have about North Korea's Nuclear program
various FR posts | 10-17-02 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

11 posted on 05/09/2003 12:30:35 AM PDT by backhoe (A nuke for every Kook ( NK, Iraq, Iran, Pak, India... )- what a Clinton "legacy...")
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To: nickcarraway
Bill Clinton should merely shut his mouth and go away, He has done enough damage to this country. The cult of Clinton is sickening to say the least.
12 posted on 05/09/2003 12:36:26 AM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Tall_Texan
Thanks for starting my day with a belly laugh!
13 posted on 05/09/2003 1:28:47 AM PDT by jammer
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To: nickcarraway
Call it a hunch, but I think if Clinton were asked his opinion on this statement, he might suggest that I've done enough to contribute to his legacy.

Well, most people would have taken the hint and left it at that, snake-face.

No doubt, however, that Carville's legacy is preserved for all posterity.


14 posted on 05/09/2003 2:23:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Registered
It appears that strangecosmos.com is using MY graphic with THEIR attribution and my copyright removed. How did this happen?


Registered, I know your work is shown on strangecosmos.com. Could you please look into this and ask them to either correct the attribution and add the copyright or remove it? Thx.

15 posted on 05/09/2003 2:46:07 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: nickcarraway
 

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime

16 posted on 05/09/2003 2:57:44 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
A humble recommendation.

Can't we go 24 hours on FR without mention of Bubba bin Laiden or his wretched wife-in theory-only? These folks are like hemorrhoids-just when you think they've gone away, they emerge again, as big a pain in the arse as ever.

Whoa, what poetry. I didn't know I had it in me.
17 posted on 05/09/2003 3:07:26 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (We're through being cool (you can say that again, Dad))
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To: JusPasenThru
Q ERTY8BUMP

"Free Republic is one of those groups obsessed with the Clinton era."

Word's out: Protest at Hillary's tonight
U.S. News & World Report (Washington Whispers) |
March 11, 2003 | Paul Bedard

 

 

 

I'll bet that Mr. Bedard is a member of "one of those groups" so "obsessed" with voting in -- and having access to -- the clintons that they--ooops-- failed to notice the obvious danger of the lovely couple.
 
Thanx for 9/11, Paul...

Mia T
"ONE OF THOSE GROUPS OBSESSED WITH THE CLINTONS"



THE INTERMINABLE clintons
It's time to take out the trash...
A Senate en passant capture is THE MOVE...
NEW AUDIO! Hear the Bill Bennett epilogue .
 
 

Norwegian Braves clinton's Implicit Threat ("If you give my Nobel to Bush, you'll go to hell.")

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime

hillary clinton A SECURITY RISK: Removal Calls Begin

THE UNSTATED MESSAGE OF THE POWELL EVIDENCE

Another mistaken 'conceptzia'
WHY AMERICA (& THE WORLD) CANNOT SURVIVE ANOTHER CLINTON
(INDEED, IT IS NOT CLEAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO SURVIVE THE FIRST ONE,)

WAS AL QAEDA THE TARGET OF A TAKEOVER BY IRAQ?

Utter-Failure clintons Concoct Left-Wing-Radio Scheme FIG LEAF
Flower Children Fall for the 2 Self-Evident Thugs & Opportunists Yet Again
(Liberals have always had problems figuring out causation)

THE CLINTONS--AMERICA'S BIGGEST BLUNDER: Hear Bush 41 Warn Us--October 19, 1992

COMING APART: What clinton was REALLY saying... and why... when he bashed Bush in Canada

the logic of pathologic self-interest

The only thing that can stop American power now

Yet More RapeLies: CNNs of Commission, Rapist Demagogues and 9/11

THE "DEBATE"
Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent

Mrs. clinton's REAL virtual office update

 

 

18 posted on 05/09/2003 3:20:09 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: JusPasenThru; Cagey; SeeRushToldU_So; ricpic; Shooter 2.5
Can't we go 24 hours on FR without mention of Bubba bin Laiden or his wretched wife-in theory-only? These folks are like hemorrhoids-just when you think they've gone away, they emerge again, as big a pain in the arse as ever.

Actually we'll have to get a ruling on that - but I believe it is stated clearly in the by-laws that a daily mention of Satan and her slime must be accomplished. Sorry.....

19 posted on 05/09/2003 3:37:52 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Mia T
I think Clinton needs to get busy too. Busy serving jail time....
20 posted on 05/09/2003 3:59:24 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
"When I am elected Queen...er, president, I will invoke McCain-Feingold to wipe out ALL freedom of speech, everywhere. Except for correct speech. What is correct speech, you dare to ask? WHAT I SAY IT IS! How will I do that you again presume to ask? By Royal...er, executive decree of course. DON't BOTHER ME WITH THAT CONSTITUTION THINGEE!! It's a living document after all. It's any damned thing I want it to be! Now be off, peasant. I have cauldrons to stir."
21 posted on 05/09/2003 4:05:49 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: anniegetyourgun
I agree...

For the author of this article to think that Clinton cares about anybody else but himself is an awful stretch.

22 posted on 05/09/2003 4:11:48 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: Mia T
# 3 PING!
23 posted on 05/09/2003 4:16:48 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mia T
Whoops.

# 15: Orrrrrrrrrg You're already awake!

HehHehHeh ......
24 posted on 05/09/2003 4:18:14 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nickcarraway

Just about everything you could ever know about Bill Clinton is at http://www.alamo-girl.com/

Some Topics There:
THE RECOUNT
MILITARY STATUS
US INTEL STATUS
HIGH TREASON
FOREIGN POLICY
PEACEKEEPING
NATIONAL SECURITY
HIGH CRIMES
LIES & DECEPTIONS
MEDIA FAILURES
ABUSE OF POWER
OBSTRUCTION
STONEWALLS
CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE
POLITICAL WINDS
BREACH OF TRUST
WACO HOLOCAUST
REMEMBER THE DEAD
THE IMPEACHMENT
POLITICAL EXITS
INVESTIGATIONS
GENERAL REFERENCE
PROFILES FROM FR THE FREEREPUBLIC

25 posted on 05/09/2003 4:32:56 AM PDT by buffyt (The DemonicRATic Whiners are Jealous of President Top Gun Bush's GRAVITAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I think Alamo Girl covered Clinton's Legacy!
26 posted on 05/09/2003 4:34:56 AM PDT by buffyt (The DemonicRATic Whiners are Jealous of President Top Gun Bush's GRAVITAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Brian Allen
Future generations will have only the evidence to ponder. A copy of "Leaves of Grass", a tacky tie, transcripts of testimony on computer files and one stained blue dress.
27 posted on 05/09/2003 4:44:16 AM PDT by Phlap
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To: buffyt
Thank you so much for the encouragement and for linking the DSL! Hugs!
28 posted on 05/09/2003 5:19:01 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Phlap; Mia T; JohnHuang2
The Hot-Springs' abberrations were the first and I pray the last criminal gang in the History of the United States of America to have been headed [Cod-pieced, more like it!] by a creature that achieved the office of President of the United States of America for no greater purpose than to volupturize it.

Not the first or [Sadly, probably] last criminal gang, mind you.

"DemocRATS" have found their way there from time to time and will again.

Just the first and hopefully last gang of Neronian criminal voluptuaries.
29 posted on 05/09/2003 5:23:45 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nickcarraway; Alamo-Girl
Here's about ten thousand+ pages of Clinton's Legacy, compiled over years by our own Alamo-Girl:

If Mr. Whitehead or anyone else want this man's true legacy ... spend a couple of weeks there. He is an enemy of truth, liberty and everything we hold dear ... well beyond the insepid carryings on with Monica Lewinsky which were nothing more than a small outgrowth of his carnal, selfish, power mongering, perverted and traitorous nature.

30 posted on 05/09/2003 5:44:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Thank you so very much for the encouragements and for the link to the Downside Legacy! Hugs!!!
31 posted on 05/09/2003 5:50:10 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
You are very welcome. it is well deserved.
32 posted on 05/09/2003 5:56:55 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Brian Allen
early start today. ;)

thx for the ping.
33 posted on 05/09/2003 6:06:45 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: nickcarraway
My contribution to the Clinton legacy:

clin-ton (clint’ n) [after Bill Clinton, late 20th century disbarred U.S. president whose administration is remembered primarily for impeachment, corruption and scandals.
Commonly referred to as:
DIRTPOTUSDisbarred Impeached Rapist Treasonous President Of The United States]
and as ’Clinton bin Lyin’

    --n.   1. Any lewd advance towards a person of the opposite gender, usually involving touching …*The boss did a clinton on his defenseless secretary*     2. Any instance of speech or conduct involving calculated deception …*The press conference on Kosovo was a real clinton*     3. Clintonitis A virus enduring all immune-system countermeasures of rejection …*Clintonitis is like a case of a sexually transmitted disease that just won't go away. The full extent of the pernicious aliment politicus Clintonitis, long unmentionable in mixed company, has intruded in full disgusting conspicuousness upon the national consciousness. *      4. clintonoid To adhere to, defend and support blindly, regardless of evidence, to speak with guile and malice; possessing the worst attributes of the First Felon ….* The clintonoid presstitutes, Brokaw, Jennings, Rather, Rivera, continued to spike all news detrimental to the administration.*      --vt.  1. To grope a person of the opposite gender in an unwelcome, unwanted manner …*He tried to clinton the man’s wife*     2. To communicate in a manner which clouds the truth by omitting essential information, or by playing with the meaning of words, or by other such deceptive means …*He clintoned his answer so much that nobody understood it*     3. To shamelessly promote a falsehood as the truth…*"Ken Starr – out of control," clintoned the media. President Bush’s Economy was the worst in the last 50 years was largely clintoned by the mainstream press *      --vi.  1. To act in a boorish manner while self- righteously maintaining the appearance of dignity …*He continued to clinton while the polls held up*      --adj.  1.Characterized by sleaziness or deceptiveness, lacking moral guidance …*It was a classic clintonian response* or *America’s downfall was due to the clintonization of society*      2. To foster divisiveness among races, creeds, genders, generations, classes, occupations, political parties…*The clintonized warring factions were not willing to enter peace talks* 3. Clintonesque - adj. describing a deceptive use of language via careful parsing of words to render a sentence meaningless or intentionally opposite of it's obvious meaning. Eg. ("To answer the question "Is he having an affair?" with "No, he's having lunch."
See also: Apologies (Africa, Asia, Central America, Europe, Mexico, South America), Arkansas State Troopers (as pimps), Arkancide, Arkcident, ‘Bill of Rights’ abrogation, "better put some ice on that", Bible (10 pound prop for PR), bimbos, bin Laden support, Black churches burning,, blue dress presidoo, Boy/Eagle Scouts, bureaucratic snafus, Cabinet investigations/indictments, Chinese Wars, cigar tricks, Clinton fatigue, Clinton LIEbrary, Clintonspeak, compartmentalize, Constitutional Crisis, criticisms of present sitting wartime president, demonization of opponents, DiCaprio interviews, disbarment, "Doing the “work for the American people" = fundraising, draft dodging, Dreamworks’ scandals, Elian, seizure/drugging/deportation, e-mails (100,000-1,000,000zip disks), Enron (Ken Lay/India), equivocate, enablers & apologists, "even presidents have personal lives.", Executive Orders, Federal Land Grabs, fighting impeachment he had "saved the Constitution.", foreign boondoggle trips (Africa >$55 MIL, China >$78MIL. India >$58MIL), foreign deployments, ‘getting a Lewinsky’, grifter, gun confiscation, Hollywood money/influence, Homosexuals in military, Ignoring terrorists, Illegal (Campaign Funds, FBI files, travel office, missile technology transfer), impeachment, inactions against terrorists(Kholabar Towers, Somolia, US Embassies, USS COLE, World Trade Towers), inappropriate, indefensible, ‘is’ is, internationalizing U.S. law via Kyoto Global Warming Treaty and ICC, etc., .Iraq appeasement, Las Alamos top secret files/fires, Leavenworth, lies, Limited English Proficiency (LEPers), Lincoln bedroom rentals, lost civil liberties, lost legacy, martial law, medical records stonewalling, military nonreenlistments, military unpreparedness, missile technology transfers, "mistakes were made", Moscow (40 days/nights-1969), mother/grandmother conflicts, mulligans, National Health Plan, NATO aggression (Clinton’s Wars), North Korean Appeasement, North Korea Nuclear weapons, obfuscate, obstruction of justice, Opprobrium, oral sex, Oval Office pantry, Oval Office sink, perjury, ‘plunge’ protection team, politics of personal destruction, presidoo, presidential kneepads, ‘presstitutes’ prevaricate, scumbag, secret police, sedition, social engineering (abortion, entitlements, guns, health care, homosexuals, tobacco), Soviet Union resurrection, spin, stonewall, Syrian appeasement, tainted Arkansas prison blood (Japan, Canada), Taiwan abandonment, "they’re mean to me", thong, treason, UN Sovereignty Rebellion, "vulgarizes everything he touches", ‘Wag-the-Dog (Monica bombs, Afghanistan, Iraq (Impeachment bombings), Kosovo, Pakistan, Serbia, Sudan), Waco, Western Forest fire-fighting money diverted, White House ‘coffees’, White House travel office, White House pastors, White House ‘porn downloads’, WhiteWater, women (Barbra, Gennifer, Christine, Denise, Dolly, Eleanor, Elizabeth Ward, Juanita, Kathleen, Linda, Monica, Paula, Sharon , Susan, etcetera...etcetera...etcetera...), “worst economy in 50 years”(guess Democrat Carter’s administration didn’t count),

Col Homes /Clinton..
Bill Clinton's letter to Col. Eugene Holmes, Director of the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas ..3 December 1969.

Copy - 1992 Affidavit by Lt. Col. Holmes:Regarding Bill Clinton's Draft Evasion

Somolia..
"Clinton's Somalia Fiasco" --Ranger's letter to WSJ
Source: Wall Street Journal; Published: August 16, 2002; Author John Belman

34 posted on 05/09/2003 6:13:07 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Alamo-Girl
You are MORE THAN WELCOME!!!!!
35 posted on 05/09/2003 6:19:13 AM PDT by buffyt (The DemonicRATic Whiners are Jealous of President Top Gun Bush's GRAVITAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
And today I get to go have Conservative FUN! Our Republican Women's Club is having a fund raiser/bridge luncheon/silent auction. It is fun to hang out with these ladies. Great bunch.

I love being with a bunch of people who are informed. Some of these gals are in their 80s and they know everything that is going on in the news, knew everything Clinton and Hill were up to.... Fascinating to talk to them, as compared to trying to carry on a converstaion about current events with people who pay no attention to what is going on in the world.

Had lunch with a dear friend Tuesday and when I talked about Sen. Byrd her eyes glazed over, she didn't have a clue whom I was talking about. sigh.... [That same friend had lunch with Clara Harris the day before Clara ran over her husband David - they were old friends - both from Columbia SA]

Oh well, off to the party now!!!!!!!!!See you guys later on the WWW

Barb in Texas

36 posted on 05/09/2003 6:26:17 AM PDT by buffyt (The DemonicRATic Whiners are Jealous of President Top Gun Bush's GRAVITAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

37 posted on 05/09/2003 6:28:55 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always flexible)
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To: nickcarraway
I might be persuaded that Slick could reform if he joined a monastery and took an oath of silence and celibacy. Anything less will just be a sham.
38 posted on 05/09/2003 6:34:16 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: nickcarraway
When our children and grandchildren study about that time in history -- when the first sitting president was compelled to testify about possible wrongdoing and obstruction of justice -- we will not be able to hide the facts, nor should we, from these young minds.

Not to worry, Mr. Whitehead. By the time these folks^ get done^ with their editing^ THE SCUMBAG will rank right up there with Washington and Lincoln.

This is just sickening.

39 posted on 05/09/2003 6:40:29 AM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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To: nickcarraway
Clinton could speak out in defense of human rights, or campaign for better health care in the Third World. He could become a college professor and lecture on arms control, international politics, and environmental issues. He could travel to war zones and mediate cease-fires. He could support programs to make farming in stricken countries more productive. He could write books -- and they needn't all be political. He could write about aging, or try his hand at poetry, or even attempt a novel. He could monitor elections in fledgling democracies. He could teach Bible classes. He could work on his relationship with his wife. He could build furniture. Or make wine. Or take up skiing. Or climb Mount Fuji. Unrealistic? Not the sort of things ex-presidents do? Maybe not most ex-presidents. But Jimmy Carter has done them all.

Well, I will give Mr. Whitehead credit for being an optimist. He seems to be concerned for Clinton as a person and I guess I can't fault him for that. But the first step on the road to individual redemption has to be the willingness to see one's faults and a desire to change so as to rectify (or at least try) those shortcomings. IOW, see it like it is and tell it like it is (to oneself, as a start). So far, I have not seen this in Bill Clinton. For one thing, he still thinks that everything is about him and for him. He (and Hillary, too) needs to realize that the world doesn't revolve around them, that there are other people out there of equal or better worth than they. A little humbleness of spirit would be the place to start.

I know (from personal experience) that this is a hard road to walk, especially for those (like me, and Clinton, and many others, if we're honest) who have outrageously large egos. But the old platitude, vincit que se vincit, I think is true. I'm not optimistic he can do it, but if he does, he'll be better off, and might attain some measure of personal (and public) redemption.

40 posted on 05/09/2003 6:46:31 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Jeff Head; buffyt
Thank you both so much for all the encouragements!

Extra special hugs to you, Jeff, for the new user interface on the DSL!

I'm sure you'll be refreshed after that luncheon, buffyt! It sounds exciting. Good for y'all!

41 posted on 05/09/2003 7:28:01 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: nickcarraway
"He's going to do something significant that helps people".

Hari-Kari is a would be a good start.......

He probably thinks that Hari-Kari is a stripper he hasnt nailed yet.

42 posted on 05/09/2003 7:32:08 AM PDT by capydick ("You know, freedom is a two-way street.")
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To: bmwcyle
BUMP FOR LATER!
43 posted on 05/09/2003 7:45:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: nickcarraway
"...He could teach Bible classes..."

You've GOT to be kidding. He's the last one anyone would want for that field of teaching. Bring him in as an example of what NOT to be. However, his expertise in the areas of adultry, fornication, and other deviant behavior would be useful. Please, Bill, just go away. Far, Far away.
44 posted on 05/09/2003 8:06:16 AM PDT by NCC-1701 ((Good luck, happy hunting, and God-speed to the US military and our allies in this operation.))
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To: Mia T

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime


...That one really should hang in a museum. Bravo! A tremendous work of art.
45 posted on 05/09/2003 8:12:11 AM PDT by hang 'em (Forget SARS and AIDS... eradicate the clintoplasmodial slime now!)
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To: spodefly
Osama's cave in Afganistan is no doubt still empty. The Felon would help the world by going to live there permanently. He might become a guru for the camels.
46 posted on 05/09/2003 8:12:53 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (ax accountant)
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To: RLK
Clinton teaching bible classes...

That jumped out at me, too. Sometimes the jokes write themselves...

47 posted on 05/09/2003 8:18:50 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: hang 'em
thx. ;) you gave me an idea... will "hang" it in clinton's monument to himself. ;)
48 posted on 05/09/2003 8:30:06 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: JusPasenThru
Sorry, but Hillary has been essentially declared the Democratic leader in the Senate (even though she holds no such loft post), and is the best candidate the Dems have for President (even though she's not running).

Can't ignore her.
49 posted on 05/09/2003 9:04:05 AM PDT by sharktrager
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To: buffyt
You need to order Newsmax's newest Deck of Cards, The Deck of Weasels. It has the biggest Rats in America as the card faces. It should bring a lot of laughs at your next bridge group.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/908355/posts
50 posted on 05/09/2003 9:11:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Free Republic, where leftist liars are exposed 24/7!)
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