Posted on 05/10/2003 10:58:47 AM PDT by traditionalist
From the January 2001 issue of Chronicles:
John Locke has been interpreted in various ways that appeal to conservativese.g., as a Christian, albeit a materialist and anti-Trinitarian, or as a qualified defender of private propertybut there is a general drift to his thought that should offend traditionalists. His view of human beings as thinking matter without the capacity for innate ideas, his unmistakable faith in sexual egalitarianism, and his constructivist theory of civil society are all fundamentally anti-conservative. The point is not whether any of these positions is theoretically defensible but whether conservatives (or historically minded classical liberals) should want to identify themselves as Lockeans. The clear answer is no.
It is simply untrue that those loyal to the foundations of the American polity must be devotees of Locke. While some passages in the Declaration of Independence were adapted from Lockes Second Treatise, George Carey, Forrest McDonald, and M.E. Bradford have all made two self-evident points: Most of the Declaration consists of a bill of grievances that came out of English parliamentary tradition but not necessarily Lockes writings; and the founding political document of the American nation was the Constitution, not the Declaration. In any case, as shown exhaustively by McDonald, the Framers, in constructing the federal union, drew on such a multitude of ancient and modern authors that it would be difficult to award Locke pride of place among their sources.
One of the sources for the Constitution was Scottish philosopher David Hume, to whose achievements Donald Livingston has devoted two erudite books. According to Livingston, Humes conception of the social good as grounded in custom and tradition was partly a reaction to the fiction of Lockes social contract. In the Original Contract and other essays, Hume expressed astonishment that a serious thinker could believe that individuals left a state of nature and entered civil society by way of a contract. Hume wondered how one could build a political theory on a situation that neither he nor his acquaintances had ever encountered. He was also amused by the notion of natural right, a concept of entitlement that was supposed to be natural and inborn but which most of the human race knew nothing of. If natural right should seem axiomatic, Hume asked, why did individuals throughout the world live in subordination to each other without a sense of being deprived of rights? Hume was not defending oppression but insisting that subjects of a limited monarchy should note their historical blessings and advantageous customs instead of inventing bogus rights and chimerical states of nature.
But Lockean contractualism has graver flaws than its bizarre anthropology. It is not coincidental that socialist John Rawls and mainstream welfare statists find it appealing. Although Locke treats property as a natural right that civil society might be required to defend, his defense of property per se was rather qualified. As the closing sections of the Second Treatise and the scholarship of Richard Ashcraft indicate, Locke was an embattled advocate of the People when it set out to overthrow tyranny and establish popular government. A tension, in fact, exists between Lockes rights to life, liberty, and property and the majoritarian democracy that he evokes in his political pamphlets. As Ashcraft suggests, this tension can be resolved as easily in the direction of democratic collectivism, based on presumed individual consent, as it can by affirming the inviolability of property.
In the world of possessive individualism conceived by this late 17th-century Whig pamphleteer, the state comes into existence to ensure the individuals right to material gratification. If the people see fit, the Lockean regime can achieve its purpose as plausibly by redistributing earnings and handing out entitlements as it can by protecting entrepreneurial profit. It can also enforce claims beyond the ones Locke fancied, if the majority comes to consider such claims as natural rights. Why limit rights to the short list Locke drew up when he was trying to dislodge the Stuart monarchs? It makes good Lockean sense to have the modern state guarantee claims that are more relevant today: e.g., a right to self-esteem or protection against insensitive white males, who dont seem to mind being jerked around by the thought police. There is no Lockean requirement that rulers uphold natural rights in the form in which they existed before the rise of civil society. Rights mean what the majority takes to be a tolerable understanding of them on the part of those who rule. On this point, the late Willmoore Kendall, on the populist right, and John Rawls and Richard Ashcraft, on the socialist left, have interpreted Locke quite accurately.
Lockes contributions to political theory can still be read with profit, particularly his strictures on the limits of political covenants. His critical observations concerning Robert Filmers defense of divine-right monarchy in the First Treatise on Civil Government make a brilliant polemic, even if Locke often misrepresents his opponent. But Lockes contractualism is a slippery slope which leads to the political culture that dominates us; the connections between the two are too obvious to be missed. On balance, I agree with the thoughtful counterrevolutionary Joseph de Maistre, who both admired and feared Lockes imaginative energies: Le dÈbut du discernement cest le mÈfi de Jean Locke.
Paul Gottfried is a professor of humanities at Elizabethtown College in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania, and the author, most recently, of After Liberalism: Mass Democracy in the Managerial State (Princeton).
Huh? Is it "conservative" to believe that we have innate ideas, or that women are politically inferior?
He said "his unmistakable faith in sexual egalitarianism... [is] fundamentally anti-conservative."
You said "Is it "conservative" to believe that... women are politically inferior?"
I don't think that one follows from the other. I do not believe in sexual egalitarianism. I also do not believe women are politically inferior (or less intelligent, or so forth).
I do not believe men and women are equal. I do believe they have comparable value (actually, I believe women have more value) but they are not equivalent, they are not the same.
However, knowing Gottlieb, I have little doubt that he does consider women politically inferior. So probably your point is valid in this case.
Name one.
Answers: 1 Yes, 2 no.
Contemporary conservatives turn to Locke for a philosophical grounding of our institutions and aspirations. What they fear is that conservatism may simply degenerate into "Whatever is, is right" or "I've got mine, leave me alone." Locke looks like a way to give philosophical legitimacy to American individualism, capitalism and democracy, and to guarantee that conservatism remains something more than self-interest or adherence to the status quo or to what is established because it is established.
In accepting Locke, American conservatism acquires a radical side. Witness the passion today to bring Lockean values to other parts of the world. The embrace of Locke in an attempt to get beyond the idols of the tribe to universal values may simply make Locke another idol in combat with those of other tribes. But dropping Locke and his ideas of legitimacy would not improve things.
Some of what he had to say about the Jesus, the Bible, Christianity I may like, some I don't may not like, but I sure don't intend to speak against him at The Judgment. ;-`
Frankly, I like what he said that supports what Christ Himself said in Matthew 23.
Here's an interesting letter from Eric Voegelin to Leo Strauss which may interest some of you. Voegelin mentions the point Cicero makes, as well as the one McIntyre's argument in another sphere: Which Nature? The analysis of MacIntyre is academic; that of Voegelin is espionage.
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Dear Mr. Strauss,Many thanks for your offprints of "Walker's Machiavelli" and "Locke's Doctrine of Natural Right" . . . The Locke piece interested me greatly . . I have a slight uneasiness in light of your handling of Locke as a representative of natural law . . . I ask myself can . . . Locke be treated as a philosopher of natural right? And even more: Is Locke still a philosopher?
Lockean reason.
[The Lockean ratio is actually opinion, no longer participation in the ratio divina. With that, the question arises, essentially for the whole Age of Reason, whether a ratio that, unlike the classical and Christian, does not derive its authority from its share in divine being is still in any sense a ratio? For Locke, it is clear on the strength of your excellent study that it is no longer that. In the concrete realization he must drop the swindle of ratio, and in the last instance refer to desire.
The deliberate destruction of spiritual substance occurs throughout Locke's political work. In three places it becomes decisively visible. You have dealt with two of them. The first act of destruction concerns ratio. The second, man as imago Dei. From this second destruction, the specific Lockean idea of man as "proprietor of his own person" should follow, on which the theory of ownership through incorporation of work into natural matter is based. This definition of the essence of man as property of oneself always seemed to me to be one of the most terrible atrocities in the so-called history of philosophy--and one perhaps not yet sufficiently noticed. The third act of destruction comes in the Letter on Toleration, on the occasion of a separation from a church community. Locke askes himself if, on such an occasion, conflicts over property could ensue that would make necessary the intervention of the state. He answers in the negative for the following reasons: the sole question of property could emerge from contributions to provisions that are consumed during the sacrament of communion. The contributions are too trifling to lead to a suit under common law. This conception of communion as a consumption of staples that cost money always fascinated me as much as the conception of property of oneself. Beyond these three main points, I believe, the systematic destruction of symbols can be demonstrated as a continuous feature in Locke.
The right of concupiscentia substituted for natural right.
This destruction leads now inevitably to conflict between the language of symbol, which is still used, and the new meanings that are substituted. It is not a conflict in Locke's theory (there you are quite right; he is consistent) but instead in the verbal construction. In the Second Treatise, the conflict is expressed in the fact that Locke must try three times to establish finally a political order that he wishes to have as the right one. The three attempts are (1) the natural state of pioneer squatters with approximate economic equality ("in the beginning all the world was America"), (2) the same egalitarian state, protected by state organization, (3) the consent of inequality (through money) in the context of state organization. The ultimate stage will then be protected by the new definition of consent by the fact of residency and by the exclusion of a state-run social policy. This final protection could refer, in a concrete historical sense, to the attempts of the politics of the Stuarts (Stafford and Laud) to protect the farmers of N. England and the slaves in Bermuda against extreme exploitation by the landlords and merchants, the attempts that were the material motive for revolt of the upper classes against Charles I.
It is a brutal ideological construction to support the position of the Enlgish upper class, to which Locke belonged through his social relations. The construction is consistent, insofar as the concupiscentia is maintained from the beginning as the driving motive; it is inconsistent, insofar as the introduction of the vocabulary of natural right forces a repeated redefinition in the concept of nature.
Lockean camouflage
And this leads, now, to the problem on which you have for so many years worked: the camouflage of the philosopher who wishes to protect the uncomfortable theories against the conventional protests. If I understand you correctly, you see also in Locke such an effort at camouflage--and I believe you are right. But only then, when you considerably extend the problem of philosophic camouflage.
I mean the following: you follow completely legitimate problem when you state that philosophers (I think for example about your Arabic studies) take precautionary measures to protect their philosophizing against disturbance by the unqualified. But: Is an ideological constructor, who brutally destroys every philosophical problem area in order to justify the political status quo, a philosopher? Is this not precisely the opposite case of a nihilistic destroyer, who wishes to cover his work of destruction from the attentiveness of the qualified? What difference, I ask myself, actually exists between Locke and that series of types that Camus deals with in L'Homme révolté? Isn't that which may still appear as camouflage of a philosopher already the bad conscience of a "modern" man, who doesn't quite dare to declare the knavery that he actually intends; and so he hides it not only from others but also from himself, by the ample use of a conventional vocabulary? That possibility recalls the words of Karl Kraus; such a person knows already what he wants, only subconsciously. What is the political philosophy of Locke other than the roguery of which Anatole France in the Ile des Pengouins makes fun: the majesty of the law that forbids eaully the poor and the rich to steal. Finally, when one considers the development from Locke to Marx, what is this Lockean ideal picture of political order but the picture of bourgeois society that Marx believed he had to produce with laborious research and had to unmask. If England had not in fact been better than Locke, and had not again elevated itself through the Wesleyan Reformation, this nasty caricature of human order would have brought about some interesting revolutions.
Excuse the length of this letter. But when it comes to Locke, my heart runs over. He is for me one of the most repugnant, dirty, morally corrupt appearances in the history of humanity. But back to our technical problem: it seems questionable to me, at least where it concerns Locke's political work, whether it still falls within the area of philosophizing; and following from that, it seems questionable whether the substance of Locke's political work becomes accessible by attending to the question of philosophical camouflage. Perhaps what is involved is a phenomenon of completely different order; Locke was one of the first very great cases of spiritual pathology, whose adequate treatment would require a different conceptual apparatus.
This statement isn't factually correct. Locke was such an ardent supporter of private property that he said that if a man steals your coat you have the right to kill him.
I would some what disagree with this statement
The Declaration is the premise that the Constitution flows from
I would some what disagree with the above statement
The Declaration is the premise that the Constitution flows from
That is precisely right. The compact concept is the basis of Government, not the basis of the rights that Government is supposed to secure.
The fact that the founding fathers accepted Locke's view that Government is a social compact, does not mean that they endorsed everything he wrote, or even considered much of what he wrote as relevant. The basic concept, not the author or his treatment of related topics, is the point. The concept in our Declaration of Independence has nothing to do with hero worship, or endorsement of any social view not discussed.
For the full text of what the Declaration actually says, see Declaration Of Independence.
William Flax
I was a little surprised to see that Adams favorably referenced him. Adams was was a cool head and after the war of independence even had some monarchist leanings, but I suppose earlier in his career he may have had some radical tendencies, of which he thankfully disposed before becoming president.
It seems rather unfair to reject Locke based on a position he did not hold. It also seems rather bizarre to accuse him of being a proto-marxist and to reject him on that account, as Voegelin did in post #20.
If the complaint is that Locke was not a conservative, in the traditionalist sense of the word, then fine. He would likely have agreed with you, as would most of the founding fathers. He was a classic liberal, perhaps he was "Mr." Classic Liberal himself, as were a preponderance of the founders who read him and based their revolution on him.
My impression has been that the average American "conservative" is in fact a liberal in the classic sense. The adherence to the concept of individual liberty, limited government, the crucial importance of private property as a guarantor of personal liberty, these are liberal concepts in the classic sense.
Of course, none of this is "either-or", there seems to me to be a huge overlap, most of the conservatives of renown that we care about here were whigs, and most whigs were also traditionalists to some degree.
What I am trying to gather in following this thread is simply the following. It is clear that Gottfried doesn't like Locke. Its clear that Voegelin doesn't either calling him "...one of the most repugnant, dirty, morally corrupt appearances in the history of humanity... " seems rather excessive to me, but clearly there is something here that I am missing.
If the men who wrote the founding documents were Lockeans, as is more or less established in post #16, if the central thrust of Locke's non-philosophy is limited government, "life, individual liberty, and private property", then where is our disagreement? It seems insufficient to simply call him "not a conservative", which is a given, or "repugnant". At least for my purposes here, what does he say that is wrong?
I get the impression that his attackers are trying to eliminate his influence from the discussion by means of an ad hominem attack, without yet revealing what their own case is.
I realize I may be a bit out of my league here, but I invite comment. And looking at the links in post #16, I clearly have some reading to do.
With that, the question arises, essentially for the whole Age of Reason, whether a ratio that, unlike the classical and Christian, does not derive its authority from its share in divine being is still in any sense a ratio? For Locke, it is clear on the strength of your excellent study that it is no longer that. In the concrete realization he must drop the swindle of ratio, and in the last instance refer to desire.
I'm not well-read enough in Locke to know if this is true, but I've long suspected that Locke's theories of consent are easily interpreted in such a manner that consent becomes a matter of will alone rather than a matter of reason. Thus we have legal positivism on an individual scale, a politics where "will makes right." And from there it's a short step to Humean emotivism.
Is it accurate to say that the Right is prior to the Good for Locke? It seems to me that the liberty of his state of nature is indifferent to any vision of the good life.
Maybe one steeped in classical or medieval or possibly German philosophy approaches Locke as a shocking new departure. For those in the Anglo-American empirical or positivist or analytical traditions, he's a distant ancestor, old fashioned but not frightening. And over the past few decades the traditions have grown closer together, as Anglo-American social views have found acceptance in Europe (and to some degree vice versa as well).
Voegelin has a point in finding the Lockean revolution ugly and godless. But on the whole the consequences of Continental theorists have probably been worse. Locke may represent not so much a political philosophy as the Anglo-American resistance to theory or totalizing philosophies. Or perhaps that resistance has saved us from the true consequences of his philosophy.
Perhaps having a frontier meant that secular revolutionary ideas didn't have the consequences they did in crowded Europe (though some blame Locke for the sufferings of indigenous peoples -- I suspect some of his ideas on property ownership more an effect than a cause of the settlement of new lands). Or perhaps the apparent Christian husk of Locke's thought was taken for the kernel itself by his contemporaries and decendants and seen as something essential rather than superficial or superfluous.
But if conservatives are to reject Locke as a radical, it's hard to see how they can hold tightly onto Hume as Gottfried and Livingston do. Arguably Hume shook the foundations of Western thought more than Locke could ever dream of doing.
Still, it is good to know that Voegelin was so uninhibited in expression. It's hard to know what Strauss thought. He clearly disliked Locke very much, but the other ambiguities in his thinking make him hard to figure out, so some of his followers (the "West Coast" Straussians) apparently accept and celebrate Locke.
Here are two articles for anyone interested: Was Leo Strauss Wrong about John Locke? and Locke's Doctrine of Human Action.
Thanks for the letter, Corney...it's amazing the stuff you dig up.
The John Locke as John Lennon analogy again comes to mind. A bit too much credit, even if for a very highly influential figure. Each John seems to have taken in various streams of creative "opera" and dished it out from an advantageous platform.
I tend to favor Paul McCartney -- and Algernon Sidney from the perspective, admitedly, of my very limited education.
Barry Shain's recent book has also criticized the assumption that Locke was behind the revolution.
My guess is that there are three things that make American conservatives cling to Locke.
First, the feeling that making religion paramount will smother individual liberty. That perception may be wrong, but once you get down to the difficult question of which religions is to be adopted and how much toleration or deference there will be for dissenters, it's easy to understand how the assumption arose.
Second, the desire to keep the unruly, populist, individualist strain of American politics to prevent our becoming more docile and timid, like Canadians or Scandinavians. Something in the American character resonates to Locke and generates resistance to political power. Take Locke away and we might be a very different people, with less backbone, less character, and less ability to resist tyranny or conformity.
Third, the fear that a rejection of Locke will bring racialist or collectivist or sociobiological ideas to the fore. There may not be any inevitable connection between the two, but Thomas Fleming's resurrection of Filmer in sociobiological terms indicates that concern on this score is not wholly misplaced. The sense that we shouldn't all be individual islands isolated from each other is an understandable and laudable one, but the alternative of collectivism or social solidarity also has its disadvantages and ugly side.
The conflict between Locke's natural right and earlier natural law may be quite pronounced, but in practice, conflicts between liberty and tyranny or the person and bureaucracy tend to be even sharper, bitterer and more violent. While Locke may be insufficient or wrong philosophically, proponents of liberty find it easy to fall back on a Lockean individualist, property-rights view, because it is so sharply differentiated from the collectivisms of the day.
You can see this at FR every day. Lockean slogans may not always be deep or intellectually fruitful, but they are inspiring and easy to understand and remember when conflicts are less refined and more visceral. Lockean individualism does go to extremes, but when the concern is with backsliding that can look like, or be, a great virtue.
This has got to be one of the stupidest statements I've seen on FR.
I love stuff like this, Locke is a particular interest of mine, and there are some folks posting here who are worth reading.
Still, going back to the original article that started this thread, the Gottfried article seems to be nothing more than a hit piece. He accuses Locke of not being a conservative, which is a given, and accuses him of favoring "life, liberty, and property" and democracy. Dang.
While there is certainly always going to be tension between democracy and liberty, since one is a means and one is an end, even granting that liberty as an end can be a means to a yet more profound end, still my question remains. While attacking Locke, Gottfried has not stated what his case is. If he attacks Locke's belief in individual liberty, what does he propose? Or if he is attacking his belief in the sanctity of property, what would be better? Or if Locke's support of property is not unqualified enough, what would resolve this weakness in his argument?
If Locke's proposal of Democracy as a means of promoting the greatest good is ill-founded, what would be better? Gottfried does not reveal himself, preferring to attack Locke for things he did not believe, laying Orwell's thought police at his feet.
Curious, also, is the reference to Hume, and limited Monarchy. Is Gottfried proposing such a thing? If so, then why not simply say so, so we can get on with it? He quotes Hume thus: "Hume asked, why did individuals throughout the world live in subordination to each other without a sense of being deprived of rights? " without challenging Hume's assertion. Who says individuals living throughout the world are not conscious of living in oppression? Perhaps Hume, from his perspective could say such a thing, but I can't imagine any serious commentator saying such a thing today. But if that is Gottfried's case, then why not simply say so?
My suspicion is that he knows that if he openly declares his support for such a thing, most of his audience would simply tune him out. It seems Locke, and the Lockeans, are much more durable than the monarchists. But if we are going back to limited monarchy, I want to get my application in early. I'm there. When I'm the boss, there are going to be some changes around here.
Meanwhile, you guys just carry on, I still have a lot of reading to do, thanks guys.
Your statement betrays a profound ignorance of history, and I haven't the time to be your teacher. Good day.
Well . . . . There is a legitimate critique here that one must consider even if Locke is not guilty. Neither Voegelin's or Gottfried's criticisms are ad hominem. The argument here (and from others Willmoore Kendall, McIntyre) is that Rights mean what the majority takes to be. That is a danger whether or not Locke is liable.
If Locke is found safe, the critique still stands for anyone headed in that direction. One could even learn why Nietzsche criticized modernity and learn of the same danger; or Levinas; or Dooyeweerd; or Gilson; or Maritain; or Plato.
Once that danger is understood, Locke himself assumes a secondary role along with all that is cherisable.
If I understand Voegelin's criticism, it is that Locke uses the language but has changed the meaning. Nature is no longer what nature was. This means that the criticism of Locke can only be understood with a background in Ancient and Medieval philosophy.
Locke looks a bit like a mutation of conservative anti-absolutist ideas into a form that could eventually demand and justify individualist democracy. Perhaps an unmutated form of legitimist, anti-absolutist thought could have served us better. But the Rubicon has been crossed. One certainly can't uproot Locke from the American or modern Western mind or undo the distrust of governments, rulers and hierarchies and the resistance to them.
What "the governed" wanted was not so much a sophisticated theory of rights and mutual obligations, but a source of slogans and claims that could be pitted against the power of their governors. That yesterday's governed become today's governing elite to be cast aside by others is one of the inevitable, though unforseen results of the theory.
Gottfried himself shares the truculent, "don't tread on me" spirit of today's average American, so perhaps he doesn't recognize his own character or ancestry. Maybe this is the paleo dilemma: they rely on pre-Lockean ideas to defend some unruly and tradition-based Celtic community against centralized states, unaware that those pre-Lockean ideas were as apt to be used against the intransigent Celts as against their oppressors.
Traditional monarchy may look good in comparison to contemporary democracy, but monarchs and royalists didn't lack the ability and willingness to oppress and exploit. England may have needed a restoration of older concepts of natural law, but what they got was Locke. France, Spain and Germany, which had no Locke, probaby ended up worse off than England.
You can also check out the original thread on this article or the Chronicles symposium that the was originally published in. While the question of Locke is of extreme importance in its own right, I can't resist a sneaking suspicion that for Donald Livingston Locke=Lincoln and Hume=Calhoun.
What "the governed" wanted was not so much a sophisticated theory of rights and mutual obligations, but a source of slogans and claims that could be pitted against the power of their governors. That yesterday's governed become today's governing elite to be cast aside by others is one of the inevitable, though unforseen results of the theory.
One of the reasons I enjoy your posts is insightful paragraphs such as these. The desire for "slogans" and neat little logical systems to enter the public rhealm with on a daily basis never leaves some people today as well.
General distrust of philosophers' systems for practical matters is one of the halmarks of many conservatives, despite an appreciation for a life-of-the-mind. I must confess myself amongst that former category despite my interest in those topics and many posters that are obviously in those later ranks.
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