Mexicans Outraged By Congressional Resolution

Associated Press ^ | 05-10-03

[Brian S]

A Congressional amendment that caused little stir in the United States has created an uproar in Mexico, where newspapers on Saturday accused American lawmakers of arrogance and even blackmail.

The measure narrowly approved Thursday by the House International Relations Committee says that any accord on immigration issues with Mexico should include an agreement to open Mexico's state oil company Pemex to U.S. investment.

[Bonaparte]

Mexican "concerns" about the "US invasion of Iraq"? What about Mexican concerns about their own invasion of the US? Millions of them disrespecting our labor laws, immigration policy and border integrity. No Mexican concern at all about that. In fact, the Mexican government encourages it. They are in no position to criticize anybody else for "invasions."

[netmilsmom]

Anything that upsets the Mexicans can't be all bad. Perhaps if they supported us with Iraq, we would have more of a problem with offending them.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

As many of you know, I am vehemently opposed to illegal immigration. However, such a resolution, if pushed further, would be a declaration of war to Mexico. They are fanatical about their natural resources NOT falling under foreign control. If only we would think a bit more like they do about sovreignty, etc. Yes, I can understand that the above-mentioned resolution created a firestorm in Mexico.

[joesnuffy]

Hopefully they are soooo incensed they never - never want to come here again.......

[Dubya]

Great news go USA

[umgud]

We ridicule the way Mexicans govern Mexico, but never ask whether they will be able to run California any better when they completely control it.

[PatrioticAmerican]

Considering that 10% of Mexico's population now lives here, we should just take over that garbage country and turn it into the beautiful place the countryside is begging to be.

[danmar]

would be a declaration of war to Mexico.

Well, ...whats wrong with that? Let's see the Mexicans what they are made of'...bet only hot air and nothing else.
We should take that sh!t hole over and turn in to 51st state and get over with! All problems resolved at the border.

You know for a very long time, I have been silent about this, but now, I kinda get a little fed up with this south of the border bullsh!t. We are bending over trying to accomodate all of those ingrates crossing the border illegaly and further more accomodating their backwards and retarded lifestyle, and what we get is a slap in the face at all levels.

You know something...all those "pedejos" can kiss my butt, if they do not like the way, we, as a society operate.

[Dubya]

Amen.

[PatrioticAmerican]

"but never ask whether they will be able to run California any better when they completely control it."

No need. Half of kali is Mexican, and it has become a sewer. The Northern half is still in better shape.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

ping

[HennepinPrisoner]

Fine.....I agree with with the Mexicans...Pemex should not be open to foreign capital

And we have no business legalising the illegal cucarachas that hve bypassed our immigration system when many more in Mexico have been waiting patiently to do it legally.

[LNewman]

Interesting you should mention war and Mexico.

One of the green card soldiers' family (read mom & multiple kids & no papa) came from my city. The local paper reported his brother was upset that he joined the Marines because if we ever go to war with Mexico he would have to fight his brother.

[Teetop]

"Mexicans Outraged By Congressional Resolution"

If demonrats have their way, the Mexicans will be able to vote in any US election in about 3 or 4 more election cycles. So why be outraged?

[txdoda]

Mexicans Outraged >>>>>>>

GOOD.....I just hope those in the USA are *outraged* enough
to GO HOME, & take their spanish with them.

If the *sly fox* is so outraged, maybe he should close HIS
northern border, and keep "his mexicans" in MEXICO !!

[TrueBeliever9]

Could not have said it better! I worked with a Mexican (who became a US citizen) and she is the most anti-American and anti-white person I ever met.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

They are fanatical about their natural resources NOT falling under foreign control

You are right. Their macho egos make them prefer that the wealth be stolen by their own homegrown politicians and union thugs who then, like other corrupt countries, blame all their problems on the USA.

[meenie]

Their resources are theirs to keep. I don't know what reason the House would have by a resolution like this.

[skinkinthegrass]

Mexican "concerns" about the "US invasion of Iraq"? . No Mexican concern at all about that...In fact, the Mexican government encourages it. They are in no position to criticize anybody else for "invasions.

A 50 ft (35 ft underground) wall/fence around the north and east boundaries of Kaliforina extending along the southern border of the USA should do it...Kalifornia is lost...then start checking for green cards...100K/each fine for any undocumented workers, no appeals...

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Their resources are theirs to keep. I don't know what reason the House would have by a resolution like this.

Perhaps you just skimmed the article and missed it but the idea is to remove PEMEX from the control of corrupt government and union officials so that it can become the engine for economic growth in Mexico. That would lessen the need for their workers to leave Mexico and enter the USA. That is why the Sense of the House Resolution was attached to an immigration bill. They are interrelated. It is also our business because of all the illegal immigration even if it is their resources. We are not taking it from them, just wanting to talk about it.

The whole idea is altruistic since it would work to benefit Mexico and Mexicans. The idea was even originally brought up by a Democrat.

[gcruse]

Using Mexico's resources to create a society Mexicans want to live and work in pisses the Mexicans off.

I didn't know being a Gringo was this hard.

[Paulus Invictus]

What more can they do, burn down the US Embassy as they tried to do recently? As for Pemex, it is the unending well of cash for outgoing Mexican presidents and other high ranking politicians and has been for years.

Former Prez Lope portillo got away with a mere $5 billion US in oil money for his six-year term. That's a lot of moolah that the poor Mexicans could use now. But will they ever change and stop the graft? Get serious! Graft is how to make it in Mexico. All other legal methods are avoided.

[RnMomof7]

Well they still want to sneak across our borders and cost American Taxpayers millions..so they can not be THAT upset

[Axenolith]

The local paper reported his brother was upset that he joined the Marines because if we ever go to war with Mexico he would have to fight get killed by his brother.

A more realistic interpretation... ;)

[ImpotentRage]

We can only hope.

[MadeInOhio]

I chuckle about Mexican "outrage" over the suggestion that Pemex be opened to gringo investment. Economic imperialism! How dare the NorteAmericanos!

However, the Mexican people and certainly their government aren't at all troubled by their de facto invasion of the United States. In fact, they encourage it and make little effort to disguise the fact that the end game is absorption of OUR Southwest into a Greater Mexico.

This is demographic imperialism seasoned with military incursions by Mexico into U.S. territory and Mexican interference in domestic U.S. political questions.

As much as I admire President Bush, I have troubled taking seriously his cheerleading for a strong and secure America when he displays such negligence on the question of border controls and obliviousness to our "French problem" south of the Rio Grande.

[LNewman]

Like your tag but then it's at least 30 years old.

Thank you for you're support :D

[madfly]

http://www.elheraldodechihuahua.com.mx/

Migratory pact, only if they privatize PEMEX: EU

Pacto migratorio, sólo si privatizan Pemex: EU

(snip: google translation)

Washington, DC.Ð the Mexican Petroleum privatization (PEMEX) in exchange for a migratory agreement was the order of the Republican Party that was approved in the Committee of International Relations of the House of Representatives, of the Federal Congress of the United States; the amendment describes to the oil Mexican industry as "ineffective and corrupt" and in addition it requests the opening of this sector to the international investment.

[madfly]

They are so offended by the idea of foreigners controlling their oil but they have no problem whatsoever controlling our immigration policy.

[madfly]

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&sid=aShu6zJM1WpM&refer=latin_america#

Mexico Rejects GOP Plan Tying Immigration and Oil, Reforma Says
By John Lyons

Mexico City, May 10 (Bloomberg) -- Mexican Economy Minister Fernando Canales said the state oil monopoly would never be opened to foreign investment after some U.S. Republican lawmakers called for Mexico to open up the oil company in exchange for increased rights for Mexican migrants, Reforma reported.

The U.S. House of Representatives foreign relations committee voted Friday to recommend that any future agreement granting increased rights to Mexican citizens should be tied to allowing foreign investment in Petroleos Mexicanos, which controls all oil field exploration and development in Mexico, the paper said.

The committee vote, which was the lead story in the five Mexico City daily papers that published today, is likely to strengthen the widespread view among Mexicans that U.S. foreign policy is designed chiefly around obtaining oil resources. The committee recommendation, introduced by North Carolina Republican Cass Ballenger, would require several more votes to become law, the paper said.

[Regulator]

Great. We get stuck with their never ending overflow so a few creeps in Houston (and, apparently Washington) can get access to that vast ocean of oil off Veracruz.

What a deal. I mean, I'm thrilled...was anyone planning on asking us?

[Tancredo Fan]

Mexico is a frickin' cancer that needs chemotherapy......

I just knew oil would eventually come up in this looney 'debate' over giving these millions of loathsome bloodsuckers amnesty and some sort of phony 'guest worker' deal. I just knew it.

[Major_Risktaker]

"The measure narrowly approved Thursday by the House International Relations Committee says that any accord on immigration issues with Mexico should include an agreement to open Mexico's state oil company Pemex to U.S. investment."

Amazing, The invasion accord is ok if we can invest in Pemax!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm a mine solution could work!

I'm boycotting Mexico because of the extradition treaty.

No Vacation to Cabo! No Corona Beer! No Tequila! Do they make anything else...?

2003 February 26 Wednesday Mexican Criminals In America And Extradition One problem with Mexican illegal aliens who come to the United States and commit crimes is that if they can manage to escape back to Mexico it is very unlikely that they will be sent back to the US for criminal trial. (bold emphasis mine)

Crime. Dealing with Mexicans who commit crimes in the US has long been difficult. The US deported 150,000 Mexicans in FY00, including 56,000 criminals. Mexicans are 80-85 percent of all foreigners deported. Most are returned to Mexico by bus. However, some Mexicans commit crimes in the US and flee to Mexico. When the US seeks their extradition, Mexican suspects often challenge their extradition on the grounds that they face the death penalty, which does not exist in Mexico.

Until 1996, the Mexican government did not extradite any of its nationals. Beginning in 1996, Mexico began to extradite those wanted for committing crimes in the US, often after US prosecutors agreed not to seek the death penalty, but the number of Mexicans extradited was two or three a year in the late 1990s. The number rose to six in 2001, when the Mexican Supreme Court placed restrictions on extraditing Mexicans who face life imprisonment in the US, an alternative to the death penalty. In FY00, there were almost 4,000 open extradition requests.

This is an outrage. Yet, in the face of the Mexican government attitude toward the US that these numbers demonstrate the Bush White House actively looks for ways to do favors for Mexican President Vicente Fox.

[tenthirteen]

Notice they never mention the 50 BILLION dollars Clinton just handed them about ten years ago. Guess that doesn't matter, thiogh. I think we never got one thing back from them for that. I would have told them to turn over Baja California for that money.

[madfly]

I do blame our government. I simply made an observation on their indignance.

I don't know anything about this bill or when the "voice vote" was taken. I've spent a few hours looking for it today. Same old story. "Records have not been inserted for that day." Also, it's the weekend, so more reason to think this story will be buried. I'll just have to keep reading the Mexican news to find out what's going on in my country!

I just found the following:

The committee recommendation, introduced by North Carolina Republican Cass Ballenger, would require several more votes to become law, the paper said.

Now I see that former Pres. Bush is to meet with Fox on Tuesday.

Bush visits Mexico City
(Mexico City-AP) -- Mexican President Vicente Fox plans to meet with former President George Bush next week in Mexico City.

An aide to Fox says the former president will arrive in Mexico City on Tuesday.

Fox has acknowledged a chill in relations with the U.S. after Mexico opposed the war in Iraq. The Bush administration expressed disappointment with Mexico's war stance.

Fox says next week's visit by former President Bush will be an opportunity to strengthen the relationship between the two countries and overcome differences.
Published: May. 10, 2003

Can't let NAFTA take any punches! Here comes FTAA!

[Carry_Okie]

Just why in the hell does Congress think that they have the authority to put up Article IV and the original intent of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution for sale?

[Under the Radar]

Very good point.

[DLfromthedesert]

Hell, they owe us FREE oil, to pay their hospital bills, for starters!!!

[Fraulein]

We also need to do away with the law that automatically guarantees American citizenship to any baby born on U.S. soil, regardless of the parents' nationality.

No other country in the world has this ridiculous law.

[Black Agnes]

ping.

[ohmage]

You want to see insane?

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:30:./temp/~c108r9ikKD::

Do a Thomas search on immigration. There's a whole page of insane.