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Nasrallah: U.S. offers to conditionally recognize Hezbollah
Haaretz ^ | 11 May 03 | Daniel Sobelman

Posted on 05/10/2003 4:08:45 PM PDT by ganeshpuri89

The secretary-general of Hezbollah, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, says that the United States has offered to recognize his organization and its political role in Lebanon in return for a suspension of its violent actions against Israel, the adoption of a neutral position in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and intelligence cooperation between Hezbollah and the United States.

In an interview with Al Jazeera television, Nasrallah said that the United States had also offered to invest money in the development of South Lebanon, noting that the offer had not come now, but in the wake of the September 11 terror attacks.

"I believe that Hezbollah's response after September 11 was enough to cause the Americans to understand that we are people who are not prepared to haggle over our principles," Nasrallah said, adding: "This exposes the credibility of the United States. They raised a proposal and said they were ready to strike our name off the list of terror organizations."

Nasrallah also said in the interview that at present, there were no contacts between Hezbollah and Israel on the issue of a prisoner exchange. "Usually, there is a round of talks during which there are many meetings. Then we reach a dead end, separate for a while, and then renew the negotiations. At present, there is nothing specific [happening]."

The secretary-general said that in the framework of the talks with Israel, Hezbollah was committed to the release of Palestinian prisoners, particularly those serving lengthy sentences. He said that talks with Israel on the issue hadn't borne fruit because Israel hadn't agreed to release such prisoners.

"The only reason for the foot-dragging on the issue relates to the political considerations and needs of the Hezbollah leader," responded Ori Tannenbaum, the son of imprisoned Israeli Elhanan Tannenbaum.

Nasrallah stressed that Hezbollah would not disarm as demanded by the United States and Israel.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hezbollah; hizbollah; nasrallah; us
"...the offer had not come now, but in the wake of the September 11 terror attacks."

OK, first note there is no response to this allegation from any US official whatsoever.

Second, what does this mean the offer has not come now but in the wake of Sept. 11? Is Nasrallah saying that this so called offer has been standing for a year and a half.

Say it ain't so Joe.

A roadmap to oblivion?

1 posted on 05/10/2003 4:08:45 PM PDT by ganeshpuri89
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To: ganeshpuri89
On Al Jazeera Television, no less.
2 posted on 05/10/2003 4:14:34 PM PDT by jungleboy
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To: ganeshpuri89
No, he's trying to forget about Iraq and the roadmap and say we are so frightened we are ready to deal.(Baghdad Bob, it has now been announced, is the new media consultant for Hezbollah.)
3 posted on 05/10/2003 4:20:41 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: ganeshpuri89
This had better not be true. I recognize Hezbollah already; I know a death squad when I see one. There's only one way to deal with people like this and it's best done with explosives.
4 posted on 05/10/2003 4:21:05 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Its not true.......sheesh its from Al Jazerra..
5 posted on 05/10/2003 4:23:35 PM PDT by Dog ( Do not cross the police tape....This tagline is under construction....Do not cross the police tape)
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To: A_perfect_lady
That's....."the proper application of explosives."

As though anyone would .....excuse me, I suppose there are plenty who would.....believe anything that Hezb or Al-jazzeera would say.

6 posted on 05/10/2003 4:24:53 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: ganeshpuri89
We also have proposed that we recognize Satan and his legitimacy as long as he promises not to interfere with earthlings, agrees to remain neutral in the fight against evil, and gives us information on bad people. We also sent him a bundle of daisies for Mother's Day. No word yet on his response.
7 posted on 05/10/2003 4:25:57 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: ganeshpuri89
the United States has offered to recognize his organization and its political role in Lebanon in return for a suspension of its violent actions against Israel, the adoption of a neutral position in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and intelligence cooperation between Hezbollah and the United States.

WHAT???


8 posted on 05/10/2003 4:41:59 PM PDT by yonif
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To: ganeshpuri89
The secretary-general of Hezbollah, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, says that the United States has offered to recognize his organization and its political role in Lebanon in return for a suspension of its violent actions against Israel. . .

So now we're negotiating with terrorists? Does that put us on the side of 'the terrorists' in the "You're with US or you're with the Terrorists" policy?

9 posted on 05/10/2003 4:44:48 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: ganeshpuri89
No, it's a roadmap to terror.

Recognize Hezbollah? That's insane.

10 posted on 05/10/2003 4:54:38 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: yonif
Haaretz has changed the headline to:

Nasrallah: We have rejected U.S. offer to recognize Hezbollah

Also this has been moved out of breaking news. Whatever. I give up.

11 posted on 05/10/2003 5:15:00 PM PDT by ganeshpuri89 (We miss you Daniel Pearl)
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To: yonif; Admin Moderator
Actually there are two pieces up with same text but different headlines:

Nasrallah: U.S. offers to conditionally recognize Hezbollah

Nasrallah: We have rejected U.S. offer to recognize Hezbollah

Somebody has some explaining to do.

And no I don't mean the mods for moving this out of "breaking." With Powell due in Damascus on Monday, State cannot let this bombshell pass without comment.

Perhaps the mods would, after all, comment on moving this out of "breaking"?

12 posted on 05/10/2003 5:24:30 PM PDT by ganeshpuri89 (We miss you Daniel Pearl)
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To: ganeshpuri89
I think Haaretz doesn't know what its doing either.
13 posted on 05/10/2003 5:32:14 PM PDT by yonif
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To: ganeshpuri89
The US had better recognize that this is another terrorist to KILL.
14 posted on 05/10/2003 5:39:03 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: ganeshpuri89
Consider the source of the announcement.Does this not sound like posturing for the home team?
15 posted on 05/10/2003 5:42:15 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: ganeshpuri89
That's stupid! Don't believe it for an instance.
16 posted on 05/10/2003 6:01:25 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: ganeshpuri89
Is he the jihad swine that looks like Sauramaun of mordor?
17 posted on 05/10/2003 6:04:16 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: ganeshpuri89
In an interview with Al Jazeera television, Nasrallah said that the United States had also offered to invest money in the development of South Lebanon, noting that the offer had not come now, but in the wake of the September 11 terror attacks.

"I believe that Hezbollah's response after September 11 was enough to cause the Americans to understand that we are people who are not prepared to haggle over our principles," Nasrallah said, adding: "This exposes the credibility of the United States. They raised a proposal and said they were ready to strike our name off the list of terror organizations."

Not that I think we should negotiate with these folks like this... but what a moron. I mean, we've already demonstrated our willingness to outright destroy groups like HezbollBLAH, and this guy wants to throw out insults? What stupidity...

18 posted on 05/10/2003 6:10:37 PM PDT by MWS (Errare humanum est, in errore perservare stultum.)
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To: ganeshpuri89
Certainly. I don't put much credibility into a claim in an Arab paper, by a terrorist group, over what they supposedly were told. Terrorists lie. Terrorists propagandize. I see absolutely no reason to have their claims be put in breaking. Thanks, AM
19 posted on 05/10/2003 6:47:35 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: sheik yerbouty; MEG33; A_perfect_lady; Dog; tet68; lilylangtree; Arkinsaw; yonif; MeeknMing; ...
Update: The New York Times has this at the bottom of a story about Hezbollah:

Sheik Nasrallah kept a low profile after the Iraq war. But in an interview with Al Jazeera on Thursday night, he said that a disarmed Hezbollah would be "useless," adding, "are we going to resist occupation with words and poems?"

He also said that after the attacks on New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, the United States sent "messages" offering to remove the group from its terrorist list and provide economic aid.

"In return, they wanted us to drop out of the struggle and they wanted us to secretly cooperate with them against the so-called terrorist groups," he said. "This was not acceptable to us and still isn't."

The United States denies any such contact.


20 posted on 05/10/2003 6:50:07 PM PDT by ganeshpuri89 (We miss you Daniel Pearl)
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Thanks for the response. see #20. US has denied ever offering any such deals. Hate the source, though.
21 posted on 05/10/2003 6:54:43 PM PDT by ganeshpuri89 (We miss you Daniel Pearl)
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To: ganeshpuri89
Say it ain't so Joe.

I'll say it ain't so.
Why on earth would we recognize a terrorist organization, especially right after 9-11?
Makes no sense then and no sense now.
Hezbollah is trying to embarrass the USA with no proof.

22 posted on 05/10/2003 7:04:57 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: MeeknMing
So now we're negotiating with terrorists?

Actually, I like that offer. If it was real, and Hezbollah actually accepted it, then they would essentially be pledging to abandon terrorism, and active struggle against Israel. What would be wrong with that? If we really could talk a terrorist group out of practicing terrorism, that would be terrific.

Of course Hezbollah wouldn't really do that, but imagine (again, assuming the offer ever really happened) that we'd been able to carry on the discussion to the point of getting Hezbollah to sign something. If we'd gotten an agreement of some kind, then their violation thereof might provide a basis for moving openly against them. After all, cleaning out the Bekka Valley and tossing the Syrians out of Lebanon has to be on the agenda somewhere, at least as a possible objective that may be pursued if a reasonable opportunity arises, or can be engineered.

Sure, it was a long shot as to Hezbollah taking the bait, and emeshing themselves in a debilitating agreement, but why not take the shot? Consider, also, that if we ever do come to the point of open military conflict with Hezbollah, we will have to make some objectively reasonable demand of this sort. The Taliban could have remained in power if they'd turned over UBL and top Al-Qaeada, and Saddam could have remained in power if he'd fully complied with 1441. If it ever does come down to ultimatum time with Hezbollah, it wouldn't hurt anything to be able to reveal that they'd been given a chance early on, and that they are now being given a final chance.

This pattern of behavior on our part is both honorable, and makes it much easier to bring the American public behind military action when it does become necessary.

23 posted on 05/11/2003 2:40:36 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
Hmmm?

"I believe that Hezbollah's response after September 11 was enough to cause the Americans to understand that we are people who are not prepared to haggle over our principles," Nasrallah said, adding: "This exposes the credibility of the United States. They raised a proposal and said they were ready to strike our name off the list of terror organizations."

Principles? It seems that the Arab Terrorists 'principles' consists primarily of killing infidels, wherever they may find them, isn't it? Is Hezbollah not part of the 'hijacked Islam Religion' to meet their political agenda of eliminating Israelis et al? We've made deals with the Devil before but this one on the face of it was hard for me to swallow.

This just seems like a bit of propaganda to me. I guess that I just don't feel like I can trust or believe Hezbollah and Al-Jazeera. Did CNN have any coverage/input on this story? That would cinch it for me, lol ! :O)

24 posted on 05/11/2003 4:14:09 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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