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Lancaster California, Ladies Handgun Shoot -- Report
SAS-CA ^ | May 10, 2003 | lainie

Posted on 05/10/2003 4:58:57 PM PDT by lainie

Only In America!

Second Amendment Sisters, California Chapter, along with CA Assemblywoman Sharon Runner and Senator Pete Knight, sponsored a Ladies' Handgun Seminar in Lancaster Saturday, May 10th.

There was a great turnout -- SRO for the firearms safety lesson. We all had a chance at the indoor range, got tips and techniques, took advantage of an extended Q&A, had a great lunch, and generally had a blast. Pun intended.

Pictures to be posted later. Let's do it again soon!


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Free Republic; US: California
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guns; rkba; sas; women
A great time was had by all. It was wonderful meeting FReeper Saundra Duffy, and SAS's Emily Berg, as well as the Assemblywoman and her staff, and all the great people at The Gun Shop. Everyone who attended was so nice, and the range of ages and interests was remarkable.
1 posted on 05/10/2003 4:58:57 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Saundra Duffy
~ping~

Thanks again!
2 posted on 05/10/2003 5:00:02 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
A wonderful type event, sounds like. Hope to see a expansion of serious gun-based training in personal defense for women - nationwide.
3 posted on 05/10/2003 5:20:08 PM PDT by toddst
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To: toddst
Oh my, too long a day - drop the "a" out of my reply.
4 posted on 05/10/2003 6:59:49 PM PDT by toddst
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To: lainie
Nice to hear that you California SASTERS are living it up! Keep up the good work.

5 posted on 05/10/2003 7:14:55 PM PDT by basil
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To: lainie
pictures?
6 posted on 05/10/2003 7:18:53 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: lainie
This is GREAT news! The "Iron Triangle" ( libs, dems and The Media ) will have a tough time demonizing this event as it was by, for, and of the ladies. Your timing was perfect, as y'all's event took place on Mother's Day weekend!

Were prizes awarded for markswomanship, and if so who were the winners?
7 posted on 05/10/2003 10:02:26 PM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: lainie
bump
8 posted on 05/11/2003 12:41:15 AM PDT by VOA
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To: lainie
Yep! A great freepin' time was had by all. Lainie was too humble to mention that SHE IS ONE HECK OF A GREAT SHOT! She bested me on the range.

It was a good turn-out and may I say these women are OUTSTANDING!

Assemblywoman Runner was a big hit with the media. They were all over her! She's pretty and smart and a Republican and an advocate for the 2nd Amendment.

I spoke with Runner and her staff and Emily from SAS about having a Ladies Handgun Seminar in Fresno. Looks like a go. Yahoo! Details to follow.

It was great to meet Lainie in person and one of the other ladies admitted to being a lurker on FreeRepublic.com for a long time.

Thanks again to lainie for posting this report. Maybe some pictures will follow.

For victory & freedom!!!
9 posted on 05/11/2003 2:47:05 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: lainie; JustAmy; Jim Robinson; Mama_Bear; jkphoto
Next time - FRESNO!!!
10 posted on 05/11/2003 2:55:04 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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To: Graewoulf
Were prizes awarded for markswomanship, and if so who were the winners?

They scored us and Lainie wins! I think she scored well enough to merit a CCW. Let's not talk about my score; it's just that Lainie is a remarkable shot. Go, Second Amendment Sisters!!!

11 posted on 05/11/2003 2:58:16 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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To: Saundra Duffy; toddst; basil; technochick99; VOA; Graewoulf; JustAmy; Jim Robinson; Mama_Bear; ...
Now, I told you I just got lucky! But my husband says there's no such thing as luck in good shooting. (sheepy grin)

Got some pics to share. I did not intend for this so take so long. There are more but they're dark. If I can clean them up I'll post again.

An hour for all of safety instruction. The instructor was with NRA, I believe, and seated to the right (in red) is SAS's Emily Berg.

Sharon and George Runner. She is the assemblywoman, and he is our former assemblyman. He has announced he will next run for California State Senator (term-limited Republican) Pete Knight's seat. If they're successful they'll be the first CA husband and wife to simultaneously hold seats in the assembly and senate.


Go sister!

Getting scored...

Sisters showin' their stuff! The ears and glasses make our heads look like they're squeezed into a test tube :)

A photographer took a picture of three freepers with Assemblywoman Runner. Hopefully he will send it to me in email as I requested. Check this space!

12 posted on 05/11/2003 1:32:03 PM PDT by lainie (Aim small -- miss small)
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To: lainie
You ladies got a nice write up in the Antelope Valley section of the Daily News. Keep up the good work!
13 posted on 05/11/2003 7:15:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: BenLurkin
Thanks for the heads-up!

Aiming for Gun Safety
Women learn to feel at home on the shooting range

By Greg Botonis
Staff Writer

LANCASTER -- Combining gun safety with shooting practice, 30 women took aim Saturday in a class to help them feel comfortable with a firearm in the home.

Hosted by Assemblywoman Sharon Runner, R-Lancaster, and state Sen. William "Pete" Knight, R-Palmdale, the event at The Gun Shop was only the second in the state to be sponsored by the Second Amendment Sisters, a firearm advocacy group.

"At first I was a little nervous but after a while I was very comfortable," said Theresa Quintana, of Palmdale. "My husband signed me up for the course because, in case he's not around, he wants me to know how to fire it."

Runner, a novice shooter, scored well during target practice and began the paperwork to buy a handgun of her own.

The Second Amendment Sisters describes itself as "a women's advocacy group dedicated to preserving the basic human right of self-defense, and to giving attention to the vital role the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution plays in protecting that right."

The 5-year-old group hopes to host workshops all over the country within the next couple of years to educate women in how to use firearms for self-defense.

"My gun is very important to me and the safety of my family," SAS State Coordinator Emily Berg said. "We want women to stand up and say, 'Hey, I have an opinion about firearms."'

14 posted on 05/11/2003 7:40:51 PM PDT by lainie
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To: BenLurkin
I heard a woman say she was "reporting for the A.V. Journal." I've never heard of that publication. Have you?
15 posted on 05/11/2003 7:44:19 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
No.
16 posted on 05/11/2003 10:20:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: lainie
Thanks for posting the article and for the pictures! SAS rules! For victory & freedom!!!
17 posted on 05/11/2003 10:26:31 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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To: lainie
You look like you're my daughter! How cute!!
18 posted on 05/11/2003 10:28:38 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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To: Saundra Duffy
HAHAH
19 posted on 05/11/2003 11:07:40 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
I didn't realize that I saved the two pictures at different pixel sizes. Just call me lil' Saundra. :) I'd be a real activist! I should be so lucky.
20 posted on 05/11/2003 11:10:10 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
The GUN SHOP is a GREAT PLACE to go. That's were I got my
weapons permit. In this day and age a women should know how to defend herself. Have fun !!!!
21 posted on 05/12/2003 5:06:00 AM PDT by RocketJim (GREAT PLACE TO GO !!!!)
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To: lainie
Runner, a novice shooter, scored well during target practice and began the paperwork to buy a handgun of her own

That's both great, and the saddest thing in the story. Why should a woman, or a man for that matter, have to do "paperwork" that is so burdensome that she could only "begin" it, just to buy a tool to protect herself and to get some recreational pleasure from? Especially in a country whose Constitution states "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

22 posted on 05/12/2003 11:42:03 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Joe Brower
Ping for the pingman
23 posted on 05/12/2003 12:23:19 PM PDT by m1911
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To: *bang_list; AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; ...
Some fun news for a change!


24 posted on 05/12/2003 12:41:54 PM PDT by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: Joe Brower
I'm sorry Joe -- should have remembered to ping you this weekend. Wasn't this in your old neck of the woods?
25 posted on 05/12/2003 1:07:47 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie; Joe Brower; technochick99
An hour for all of safety instruction. The instructor was with NRA, I believe, and seated to the right (in red) is SAS's Emily Berg.

It's difficult to believe an NRA instuctor was invited to teach at a SAS event. I was told that the SAS has no working relationship with the NRA.

26 posted on 05/12/2003 1:08:16 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: El Gato
Yeah. And she's a legislator. But at least she gets RKBA.
27 posted on 05/12/2003 1:08:50 PM PDT by lainie (No fast slingshots for youuuuu)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Could very well be. I really don't know. The instructor was wearing NRA gear but that doesn't mean he made an appearance in any official sense.
28 posted on 05/12/2003 1:11:16 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
I hated to bring the subject up but maybe your organization can present the instructor with SAS gear so there isn't any more confusion the next time there is an SAS event. A better solution is if the SAS has it's own qualified instructors on call so there's absolutely no doubt who is running the show.

Personally, I love the idea of interaction between the gun groups. The only enemy we have are the anti-gun groups.
29 posted on 05/12/2003 1:20:00 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: lainie
"Wasn't this in your old neck of the woods?"

Close -- about three hours drive north of my digs in northern San Diego county.

30 posted on 05/12/2003 1:29:41 PM PDT by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: Shooter 2.5; Saundra Duffy
Now that you mention it, as I recall, he had an NRA shirt but did wear an SAS ballcap. Or maybe it was the other way around. Saundra, do you remember? Guess we should have taken a close-up picture.
31 posted on 05/13/2003 9:17:29 AM PDT by lainie
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To: Shooter 2.5
SAS has a working relationship with all pro 2A organizations. The SAS shoots are geared towards safety and education. Using the NRA qualified instructors gives SAS the oppurtunity to get education out to those who need it. The instructors are not working for the NRA at SAS shoots. They are just qualified by the NRA to instruct. At the SASFoundation we are working towards goal orenited days with SAS safety shoots in the morning and possible WOT in the afternoon.....we shall all stand together or surely we will fall unarmed together.

32 posted on 05/14/2003 8:23:15 AM PDT by SASNatCoord (Be SASsy in everything you do!)
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To: SASNatCoord; technochick99
You and technochick99 better have a discussion and I am not getting in the middle of it because you're saying one thing and she's saying the opposite.

Have fun. I already know not to get in the middle of two woman when they're having a little tiny disagreement.


And in case you missed the literally dozens of pleas I have made to work together or we'll fail separately, here I go again.

We have to work together to defeat the common enemy which is gun control.

33 posted on 05/14/2003 12:00:57 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
It's difficult to believe an NRA instuctor was invited to teach at a SAS event. I was told that the SAS has no working relationship with the NRA.

SAS has no relationship at an organizational level. Different coordinators may interact with members of the NRA. If you invite an NRA instructor, I assume you contact the individual, not the national office.

34 posted on 05/14/2003 12:52:02 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org julib@2asisters.org)
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To: technochick99; SASNatCoord
See 32. You two have something to discuss.
35 posted on 05/14/2003 12:56:23 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: SASNatCoord; Shooter 2.5
The instructors are not working for the NRA at SAS shoots. They are just qualified by the NRA to instruct.

I think this clarifies the "confusion". In other words, we don't have a formal relationship with the NRA, nor with any other group (with the exception of the Patrick Henry Center). We may join together with other orgs on a single issue, but please don't misinterpret my words.

As I may have mentioned before, an NRA director said the same thing to me - we shouls "all work together". I asked him point blank whether if we were, and SAS and the NRA disagreed on a point - would the NRA change its position and "work with us" or would they expect us to. He said they wouldn't change their position.

Since no one dictates SAS's policy but SAS, this sort of relationship would never work.

36 posted on 05/14/2003 1:13:24 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org julib@2asisters.org)
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To: Shooter 2.5
BTW - we don't "bash" any group except the anti's. I would say that some could construe that as extrodinary support!
37 posted on 05/14/2003 1:15:32 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org julib@2asisters.org)
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To: technochick99
I don't know where you got this idea that I said anything about you "bash[ing]" the other gun groups.


Here's the post that started this all:


To: Joe Brower

Joe, did you notice that the NRA has a good working relationship with the Second Amendment Sisters, The Liberty Belles, the Second Amendment Foundation and the Citizen's Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms?

59 posted on 05/07/2003 2:17 PM CDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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Compare that to this:


To: Shooter 2.5

SAS has a working relationship with all pro 2A organizations. The SAS shoots are geared towards safety and education. Using the NRA qualified instructors gives SAS the oppurtunity to get education out to those who need it. The instructors are not working for the NRA at SAS shoots. They are just qualified by the NRA to instruct. At the SASFoundation we are working towards goal orenited days with SAS safety shoots in the morning and possible WOT in the afternoon.....we shall all stand together or surely we will fall unarmed together.

32 posted on 05/14/2003 10:23 AM CDT by SASNatCoord (Be SASsy in everything you do!)
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Compare the first post and the first sentence in the second.

Now go ahead and iron out your differences between the two of you.
38 posted on 05/14/2003 1:24:36 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: lainie
Here's the report from Emily (SAS):

SAS CA held our second Ladies' Handgun Seminar last weekend in Lancaster
down in the High Desert. We had 28 participants (6 with experience, the
rest had never shot before.) All the ladies I spoke with after were
very enthusiastic and said they had a very fun time. Quite a few were
interested in joining SAS, and were even talking about getting an active
chapter running down there! We sold a lot of t-shirts and hats, but
most of all introduced more than 20 new women to the value of taking
responsibility of their own self-defense!

If anyone is interested in helping to organize a SAS Seminar in their
area, please let me know. I will be able to provide a lot of guidance.
I think these seminars could be one of the keys to getting women
interested in the issue politically. Eventually, we could be the
tide-turners, if we can reach enough women. I know from the gals in
other states that these events spread like wild fires once we get them
going. I just need helpers!!

Thanks!
Emily, CA coord
39 posted on 05/15/2003 8:28:29 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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To: technochick99
I'm a member of the NRA and the Second Amendment Sisters. For victory & freedom!!!
40 posted on 05/15/2003 9:58:14 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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