[VeritatisSplendor]

Aaargh! The liberal idiocy of this welfare proposal is bad enough, but what is really infuriating is the uncritically accepted assertion by Ann Crittenden, author of "The Price of Motherhood", that "Motherhood is the single biggest reason for poverty in old age". The number of sleazy statistical moves required to arrive at that conclusion is remarkable.

[fooman]

I have to say that this is a bad idea, especially in the context of a family unit.

All this will do is subsidize more out of wed babies...

[fooman]

I have to say that this is a bad idea, especially in the context of a family unit.

All this will do is subsidize more out of wed babies...

[John Jorsett]

Are they willing to kick in the employer/employee share of the phantom 'wages' they were 'earning' all those years? Plus the 1.3% Medicare tax. Plus interest and penalties, of course. Being self-employed, 16% of my money goes to these things, so let's have them do the same before they claim this benefit they've supposedly earned.

[expat_panama]

Aaargh! The liberal idiocy of this welfare proposal..

No this is wonderful!  The ladies obviously must be saying that they’ve agreed to pay their back Social Security taxes (oops, 'contributions') with penalties and interest for the years they worked as mothers.   It’s the perfect way to refill the Social Security Ponzy scam to keep it afloat a few years longer. [/sarcasm]

 

[Alouette]

"Motherhood is the single biggest reason for poverty in old age."

What happened to the grownup kids taking care of dear old Mom? That must be so--so--(ugh!)--fundamentalist!

[shhrubbery!]

the uncritically accepted assertion by Ann Crittenden, author of "The Price of Motherhood", that "Motherhood is the single biggest reason for poverty in old age"

Someone should inform this woman that if too many shun "motherhood," the liberal sacred cow called "Social Security" will vanish too.

Not only that, but the diminishing population would contribute in diminishing amounts to the overall economy. Result: Impoverishment for everyone.

[FourPeas]

It's all just more socialist claptrap. Pure stupidity. But, as a woman and stay-at-home mother, I can honestly see lots of women falling for it. It's only fair; it's for the children. Like the stupid notion of federally mandated maternity leave, I predict it will shortly become an issue that finds its way into the mainstream.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

"We support caregiving in a Hallmark way, but what are we doing as a society to value it?"

I don't want Hallmark platitudes, I don't want a SS check... I want what my family already gives me... love and support on a daily basis.

If a woman marries and has children, is she doing this for the good of society, future financial security, a pat on the head from the socialists... or is she doing it for herself? I didn't think of society's demands on the day that I married, nor the days when my children were born. What I did think about what how my life had changed, because I had chosen the right course FOR ME!

Why aren't marriage and motherhood seen as their own rewards, anymore? Why let the liberal ideology steal the pride of motherhood away from us? Why give them an inch, for a SS benefit?

[zip]

to demand a Social Security credit for the years they spend at home raising children.

BS!!! Social Security is NOT A WELFARE HANDOUT. Cradle to grave, leftist, "give me something for nothing" BS. I have nothing but the utmost respect for motherhood and know the sacrifices made by most mothers but SS was never intended to be funded 100% by government as a welfare "entitlement". I am so tired of funding handouts, "earned" income tax credits, and the like. How about working for wages as a national priority???????

[JoeSixPack1]

When did motherhood earn the title "caregiver"? Used to called "Parent"

[Ima Lurker]

So, do working Moms get two Social Security payments then, the one they earned and the give away? I get so tired of hearing this kind of whining. There is no little fairy who comes in and cleans the toilets, makes the beds and puts supper on the table for women who work outside the home. Every working woman has two jobs whatever her situation.

I think it is wonderful when Moms make the choice to stay home with their kids. I know in most cases it is a financial sacrifice. However, they are your kids not mine and I don't want to pay you to take care of your own kids.

[FITZ]

Might as well give it American moms --- President Fox of Mexico is demanding social security benefits be given to his citizens. Just give it to everyone who never put in ---the program needs to be ended.

[MarkL]

I'm all for it! Since the government keeps telling me that it's a "pay as you go" system (as opposed to the pyramid scheme that it looks like), I'm looking forward to all those "care givers" taking out their check books, and start writing big checks to the IRS for the benefits that they want to have. I can't wait for them to start paying, before they start collecting.

Mark

[Myrddin]

"Motherhood is the single biggest reason for poverty in old age".

What a pile of garbage. Assuming I pass on before my wife, she will live in a home that is owned free and clear with no indebtedness and adequate income to live comfortably for the rest of her life. Her choice to be a wife and mother gave her entre to a much better life than she could have achieved with her current level of education.

The reality is that I will probably survive my wife. The women in her family have never lived beyond age 59. We have that documented back to the 1400s. Assuming that I continue my current level of employment, she will never experience poverty in old age.

This is clearly another grab at the Social Security money that is already being drained by many people who never paid a dime in Social Security in a working capacity.

[Lorianne]

This article points up the precise reason so many mothers choose to work outside the home instead of be full time care givers to their children. Financial security.

My mother was a SAH for 18 years when my father left her. She had no job skills to speak of (she had been a teacher before marriage). She had to scramble around for years with low paying menial jobs and going to school to get some skills before she finally got a decent wage job. Even then she only worked 15 years before having to retire for health reasons. So she only paid into the system a short time.

Lots of women find themselves in this situation in their mid 40's and 50's. Their daughters do not miss the lesson and few take the same risks.

[NightMareInOldAge]

Have you any idea of what it is like to face your future knowing that you will always exist in poverty so dire that you must often budget for toilet paper? Let me tell you how it is to be a 56 year old woman living with kidney failure and knowing that all the best years of your life was given to a man and the children I bore him and raised for him while he worked. I never foresaw divorce happening to me. Never thought about the fact that I was not getting credit for the retirement he was earning for himself while I stayed home to raise the kids and put a hot meal on the table each and every night. Yet, seventeen years of marriage, years of being the good wife and mother, hard work and giving up my needs for the needs of my family, to end up in a poverty so stark that most people would have given up and... well you get the picture. I exist monthly on less than most people make per week from SSI. Now that my husband is retired I find out that he had a special retirement that wasn't part of Social Security and that I am not entitled to any of it. Do you think this is fair? You just have no idea!

[hosepipe]

[ Moms rally to demand Social Security for work as caregivers ]

And what about the Caregiver tenders(fathers).?..