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DISNEY/MIRAMAX CONTACT INFO! Financing Michael Moore's 2004 "Attack Film" on Bush is UNACCEPTABLE!
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 5/11/03 | Recovering_Democrat

Posted on 05/11/2003 5:39:29 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

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To: montag813
"Your post is not worthy of response. You obviously do not understand the impact "Bowling for Columbine" had, nor how Moore's lies and distortions have gotten next to zero scruitiny in the media. I wont waste my time replying further."

"Bowling for Columbine" must not have had too much impact. I never heard of it before Moore made an ass of himself during the awards. And I am frequently online reading about controversial goings-on. But BFC and Michael Moore were strangers to me. Am I out of touch? No way. Moore and his film were losers from day one; there was little impact.

And while I'm at it, I would remind you that this is a courteous board. Please respond to people you disagree with in a courteous manner, unless they are repetitively stupid liberals. The poster you addressed your discourteous comments to does not fit that category.....

61 posted on 05/11/2003 7:55:54 PM PDT by yooper
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To: babble-on
This movie, if it is ever made, will be a net vote-getter for Bush.

Fat SOB is at the point in his megalomania where he thinks that he will single-handedly stop the reelection of W.

As if another delusional screed blaming W for 9-11 from another frightening looking leftist will have anything other than a postive effect on the GOP's chances in 2004.

With subhumans like Moore-on, SHRILLARY, Tiny Tom Dashole and the perverts, crooks and lunatics running for President representing the voice of the Democratic party, we are in great shape.

62 posted on 05/11/2003 7:56:20 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Convicted felons for Kerry)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
An attack film in 2004? Sounds like politicking to me. What does Campaign Finance Reform have to say about this?

Oliver Stone tried the same thing in 1988 (a slam film on George Bush tying him to Iran-Contra and a bunch of other offenses).

When Olie learned that he wouldn't be able to get the film out by the election, he abandoned the project.

63 posted on 05/11/2003 7:59:05 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
bump the b*stards!
64 posted on 05/11/2003 8:02:40 PM PDT by the crow
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To: Recovering_Democrat
..T'was US -vs- THEM at the OSCARS = Results


SUSAN SARANDON = 2 Strikes
MICHAEL MOORE = 2 Strikes
MARTIN SHEEN = 2 Strikes


http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=883


Freepers RULE 4-CLARITY
65 posted on 05/11/2003 8:05:10 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
It's like when the NYTime or Washington Post runs a headline quoting some outragous charge by a DemoRat "Republicans want to starve old people", "Bush Knew" or the editor himself makes a questionable assertion in the headline "Did Bush Know?"

It doesn't matter what follows, the ideas have been given credibility because of their presentation. It's like the question, "have you stopped beating your wife?". The media will air the charges made in the film and not objectively taking Michael Moore to task for his hyperbolic statements and outright fabrications, he gets a pass. After all, he won an Oscar for best Documentary; he must be a professional in his field.

Disney owns ABC. Nuff said.

66 posted on 05/11/2003 8:12:40 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Micheal Moore is a modern day Leni Reifenstahl and pressure needs to be excerted to make funding of this trash hard to come by. Eventually he wil get funded since Hollywood has enough leftist money to go around, but as a publicly traded company, Disney should eb pressured.
67 posted on 05/11/2003 8:20:42 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
When his tv show was canned at NBC and then FOX, he went over to England and let their government finance it (BBC).

He'll always find someone to fund his hate propaganda. Scott Ritter got money from Saddam's Iraq to make a pro-Iraq documentary.

68 posted on 05/11/2003 8:30:44 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Forseti
Are there any sites that document every single lie, misleading statement, and fabrication in Roger and ME and BFC? I have a sociology professor trying to use Roger and Me as a factual account for his class, and I wanted a detailed refutation

You are on the answer you seek. There is simply no better place; no place where you get humor and intelligence inter-spaced with some of the most progressive, inventive patriotic thinkers than you will find here.

For example, I am an avid horseplayer. Over the weekend a bruhaha developed over a photo and some poor journalism concerning the Kentucky Derby. An allegation of a "buzzer" (read: speed-inducing cattle prod) being used by the jockey on the winning horse, Funnycide. I first heard word of it early Sunday morning. Needless to say I was scared stiff for the game I love so much. I spent lots of time and energy searching for these pictures showing the device in the jockey's hand as well as any news I could find. This included racing chat rooms and industry websites of which I have hundreds of links. Guess what? I go to Freerepublic, do a search under Kentucky Derby and immediately get two threads with home-made blow-ups of the pics along with great comments; some ridiculous, some very poignant. An hour or so later there is a third thread that wraps the story up as pretty much false, (with links), case closed, mind you before the Daily Racing Form (Horseman's Bible) goes to press.

So, to answer your question: YES do what I did when I first heard of this fat #'s movie coming out: Run a search on the Author(?) and Title of this crap movie and find out for yourself on a line by line, scene by scene analysis of this smear piece. I have over 15 bookmarks on threads and links derived from threads. And yes, someone could make lots of money with an anti-bowling docu.....regards, Trifecta Tom.

P.S. Subscribe!!!

69 posted on 05/11/2003 8:30:55 PM PDT by try phecta tom ((Harvey RULES. Paul not the rabbit)
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To: Petronski
http://www.afa.net/disney/facts.asp

Some links
http://www.erlc.com/Culture/Disney/1997/case.htm


Disney hired Victor Salva, a convicted child molester, to direct its movie Powder. When Salva’s victim, Nathan Winters (now 20), publicized the hiring, some of the police officers who investigated the 1987 molestation were incredulous that Salva was working again as a movie director. "It just blows me away," said Officer Gary Primavera. "He has serious signs of being a pedophile." One Disney official, John Dreyer, refused to respond to Winter’s demand that Disney fire Salva, saying, "What’s the point other than you want to make headlines?" That’s compassion for you. Washington Times, 10/25/95
MOLEST VICTIM PROTESTS AT DISNEY FILM RELEASE;
Director served prison term for sex crime 7 years ago

By Jim Herron Zamora
THE SAN FRANCISCO EXAMINER
October 25, 1995, Wednesday
News; Pg. A-1

(http://www.vachss.com/mission/disney.html)
The victim of a childhood sexual molestation is urging filmgoers to boycott the new Disney film "Powder," which was directed by the man who videotaped himself having oral sex with the then-12-year-old Concord boy.

The film, about a troubled teenager, is scheduled for release this Friday in 1,200 theaters nationwide. Its director, Victor Salva, confessed in 1988 to five felony counts related to having sex with a boy he directed in a low-budget film.

The molestation victim, Nathan Winters, now 20, has decided to go public with his ordeal to protest Salva's connection with the movie, which was made by a subsidiary of Walt Disney Studios.

Winters led a small band of protesters outside an entertainment industry screening of the movie in Los Angeles on Monday night.

"Please don't spend your money on this movie," urged leaflets handed out by the group "It would just go to line the pockets of this child molester." Friends toted signs: "Victor Salva: Writer, Director, Child Molester" and "Support the Victim, not the Victimizer."

Salva, 37, said in a statement Tuesday that he regretted his past actions.

"I paid for my mistakes dearly," he said. "Now, nearly 10 years later, I am excited about my work as a filmmaker and look forward to continuing to make a positive contribution to our industry."

Nathan's mother, Rebecca Winters of Concord, called Salva's return to filmmaking "absolutely outrageous."

"I can't believe it. It just makes me sick," she said. "I'm not going to stand by. He should not be allowed to live his life as if nothing happened."

She said the family learned that Salva was directing the movie when they saw his name on TV during an advertisement for "Powder."

"We were shocked to see his name in the credits," she said.

Salva confessed to having oral sex with Nathan Winters in 1987 while directing the then sixth-grader in "Clownhouse," a film about three boys terrorized by circus clowns.

"Clownhouse" won several awards and was the first horror movie released at the acclaimed Sundance Film Festival.

Salva was sentenced to three years in state prison, serving 15 months and completing parole in 1992, according to the state Corrections Department and court records in Contra Costa County. He is a registered sex offender in Los Angeles County, according to state records.

Laws in 46 states, including California, treat sex offenders differently than other convicted criminals in that sex offenders, once released from prison, are required to register with authorities in communities where they take up residence. This is because pedophiles are driven by a psychological compulsion that has typically not been cured by therapy, according to criminologists and prosecutors.

Although Salva's prison sentence was the shortest he was eligible for, it did not come as a result of a plea bargain, said Senior Deputy District Attorney Jack Waddell, who headed Contra Costa County's sexual assault prosecution unit at the time.

Winters, who also acted for Salva in the 1986 short film "Something in the Basement," told his mother during the making of "Clownhouse" that Salva had forced sex on him.

When police raided Salva's house, they found two homemade pornographic tapes, one showing Salva having oral sex with Winters.

In April 1988, Salva pleaded guilty to one count of lewd and lascivious conduct, one count of oral copulation with a person under 14 and three counts of procuring a child for pornography. At his sentencing hearing, a prosecutor said Salva appeared to seek jobs where he could work with children. Salva has written children's books and in 1985 worked at the Crawford Village Child Care Center in Concord.

Rated PG-13, the $ 10 million "Powder" is Salva's first mainstream Hollywood movie. The film was made for Caravan Pictures, a production company wholly owned by Disney.

Movie industry sources said that Salva was not under contract with Caravan or Disney for any movies beyond "Powder."

Salva's work with Caravan could prove embarrassing for Disney, whose theme parks, animated characters and popular cartoon videos have cemented its reputation for wholesome family fun for more than six decades.

Disney declined comment to The Examiner. Disney spokesman John Dreyer told the Associated Press, "What's the point, other than you want to make headlines?"

But Dreyer confirmed that Disney's corporate office was not aware of Salva's criminal record.

The producer of "Powder" defended his embattled director.

"He paid for his crime, he paid his debt to society," said Roger Birnbaum, head of Caravan Pictures who also recently produced "Dead Presidents" and "The Big Green." "What happened eight years ago has nothing to do with this movie."

Birnbaum said he was tipped about Salva's conviction halfway through filming "Powder" and confronted him. Told only the basics, Birnbaum elected to neither dismiss Salva nor inform the entire cast and crew. Instead, Birnbaum said, "Key production people were told to keep an eye out for anything, just in case." Nothing improper was observed, Birnbaum said.

"Powder" stars Mary Steenburgen and Jeff Goldblum as the teachers of a boy with telekinetic powers and pure white skin, which repels his peers.

The actor who plays the teenage Powder, Sean Patrick Flanery, is 29, and Birnbaum told the Los Angeles Times that no minors were on the set during filming of the movie.

Experts in child abuse fear that Salva's role as a director of a teen-oriented film could put him in a position where he could use his power as a lever to abuse other minors.

"The frustrating part for law enforcement is that you have a convicted molester who is able to be around children and to be in a position of authority," Officer Joe Kreins of the Concord Police Department said. "It would be very easy for him to abuse his power and authority in that position."

A 1988 state Justice Department study found that almost half of all sex offenders are re-arrested; nearly 20 percent of sex offenders commit another sex crime. Convicted sex offenders are more than nine times as likely to commit another sex offense than a person convicted for a non-sex offense, statistics show.

"People do commit offenses and get out and get on with their lives," Waddell said. But "pedophiles and child molesters do have a tendency toward recidivism."
70 posted on 05/11/2003 8:31:55 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I hope you get all the support you can! BUMP!
71 posted on 05/11/2003 8:34:56 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The only ones who will watch his movie are the burned out anarchists and the America haters. I don't think we have much to worry about. Disney hasn't had a successful film since the Lion King so it's not like we have much to worry from them either.

Some Disney Movies I picture Michael Moore in would be:

The Three Not So Little Pigs
Dumbo 2
The Hunchback of Hollywood
Pinochio (Moore would be Moorenstro the Whale)
any other suggestions?

72 posted on 05/11/2003 8:48:21 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Why are we so surprised by Disney? Let me tell you something....Disney = EVIL. Remember that Disney has GAY day every year. Where your kids can watch Mickey host sexual perverts. Remember the films where some slides had sexual pictures ? When Walt Disney ran things, I don't think this was a concern, but this is now and our children are subjected to bad things. Its a small world after all but we don't need their perversion!
73 posted on 05/11/2003 9:17:55 PM PDT by ditto h
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Some news program was talking about a major lawsuit between Disney and the owners of Winnie the Pooh rights. If the old ladies who own the rights to Winnie the Pooh wins the case then Disney is facing massive losses.

Seems like if we can help those ladies win that case then Disney will be hurt more than a boycott and the Stockholders will force Eisner out.
74 posted on 05/11/2003 9:55:23 PM PDT by Swiss
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To: Recovering_Democrat; All
are you guys still going to complain about my criticism of propaganda movies like "Pearl Hoarbor"?
75 posted on 05/11/2003 10:13:18 PM PDT by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: ex-Texan
Somehow, in some way, Mickey Moore reminds me of the Revvvvverand Jackson. Shades of NASCAR if your theory holds out.
76 posted on 05/11/2003 10:24:42 PM PDT by EastCoast (Could it be that it was Disney France who concocted this deal? Tsk, tsk, Chirac!)
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To: cwboelter
I think it is important to find out what these interests where so we can combat the accusations that Moore will imply.

Spot on. We need to know everything about these business dealings well in advance of this propaganda's release.

I trust the President, and I trust his father. But in order to defend them against the coming onslaught of accusations, I (we) need to know the truth.

Operating under the assumption that there's nothing to hide, we have to find it. Facts will always be our best defense against the left's lies. And we can already assume that Moore's film will be nothing but lies, because he's proven himself to be incapable of telling the truth.

77 posted on 05/11/2003 10:28:45 PM PDT by WarSlut (Boycott Disney)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Jeepers, I'm really disappointed with Disney. I bet Walt Disney is rolling over in his grave at the way those jerks are operating his company.
78 posted on 05/11/2003 11:00:23 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Recovering_Democrat; unspun; chicagolady; MightyMouseToSaveThe Day; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ...
And away we Go!!! FR Troops! We have a Disney, Miramax Quest Ping!!!
79 posted on 05/12/2003 12:00:09 AM PDT by JustPiper (If we are deemed 'far right wingers', does that make them 'left side wrongers'?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Here is a link with all Miramax movies:

Link

80 posted on 05/12/2003 12:05:12 AM PDT by JustPiper (If we are deemed 'far right wingers', does that make them 'left side wrongers'?)
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